Current Events The dialogue confirms, with 0 ambiguity, that King and Queen tried to fight Ryokugyu. Update: The OFFICIAL dialogue makes it worse.

#54

Edit:
The official dialogue:


Why are we even debating about this at this point?
There will always be debate because there is ambiguity. The only certainty is that we don't know what happened. We don't know if Queen and Kid fought, we don't know what state they are in, some say they were detained...

Precisely what Oda wants is that ambiguity. The only problem I see in this situation is that people are putting the Admirals in the clouds.

I am one of those who think that the Admirals are closer to the 1 Commanders than to the Yonko. Even so, I do not rule out that Admirals could be Yonko level.

And I think that open-mindedness is the best. Because this month Green Bull will surely end up with a level of power above Roger and if in the end he is defeated by a Zoro (since he has a sword) then there will be the cries that Oda has no idea.

Most of the time it's not that Oda does it wrong, it's that he doesn't follow your paranoia.
 
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#55
because Queen is Udon’s territory and they were hiding there before making their next move

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So Kaido is alive? You think they would still fight without Kaido?

And how you know that was Udon?

Also if they were hiding how they attacked an Admiral?
 
#58
There will always be debate because there is ambiguity. The only certainty is that we don't know what happened. We don't know if Queen and Kid fought, we don't know what state they are in, some say they were detained...

Precisely what Oda wants is that ambiguity. The only problem I see in this situation is that people are putting the Admirals in the clouds.

I am one of those who think that the Admirals are closer to the 1 Commanders than to the Yonko. Even so, I do not rule out that Admirals could be Yonko level.

And I think that open-mindedness is the best. Because this month Green Bull will surely end up with a level of power above Roger and if in the end he is defeated by a Zoro (since he has a sword) then there will be the cries that Oda has no idea.

Most of the time it's not that Oda does it wrong, it's that he doesn't follow your paranoia.
Did you not read the post? Ryokugyu says “I told you not to test me.”

That’s not ambiguous. At all.
 
#60
I've always had admirals above YC1. The problem for me is the YC1 are so weak, I always thought it was absurd for Kaido to defeat Luffy with one hit at the beginning of Wano and I still find it absurd for Ryokugyu to defeat King so easily
 
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