Questions & Mysteries The difference between Zoro, Sanji, Jimbe and The Captain

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Inspector_Mu

Urouge is known for identifying people with true potential. he did acknowledge two pirates of his own generation



and again



in both panels it was basically Oda giving the readers a hint of the mentioned characters and how special their potential is.
This doesn't says Zoro is a leader....

The difference between Oden and Zoro: one can lead
The other Cant... he cant even lead himself properly on the road without getting lost.
 
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Inspector_Mu

Only part of this that makes sense is Jinbei, due to the massive experience he has with leadership. The rest is utter non-sense, wtf is "Sanji> Luffy" in leadership?
The rest is utter nonsense coz you think is utter nonsense
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
Zoro has led people . Johnny and yosaku and he has a whole dojo off 3 sword style kids growing up trying to be like him
Get off his nurs
I don't get why people think Zoro can't be a leader. He got power and prominence and also even the nakama spirit.

He would be the best leader in history eventually.
 
Zoro is a natural leader ? Lol
Natural born leaders are those with CoC

Then you have normal leaders which JINBEI Was, even Brook became captain of his old crew
Franky has led people prior Joining luffy and Sanji is a leader too...

Zoro has never led anyone , never had a gang of people he led prior joining.
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Nope
Sanji 1st bounty is bigger than Zoro first bounty
Sanji 2nd bounty is bigger than Zoro second bounty
And for their 3 rd bounties, currently Sanji has a bigger bounty than Zoro.
Lmao that's because while Zoro had a 60 million bounty, Sanji wasn't even recognized by the WG
 
Is Jinbei really all that good as a Captain though?

I'd say he good in some ways but not so much in others... Jinbei is good at keep his people safe but I don't see the people under him accomplishing much. Jinbei joined the Shichibukai even when his crew was against it (and lost a large chunk of them doing so) because they'd be safer and it would help the causes of others. He threw away that position not for the betterment of his crew but to help people outside of of it. He then joined the Big Mom pirates for protection when he honestly didn't need to so and tied his crew to a crazy control freak... and then started a fight against her so he could join Luffy (who has to be the person Big Mom hates the most right now).

He's a popular leader with his men but I don't think that makes him a good one.
 
afair Luffy had to blackmail Zoro into the crew and Zoro still made the demand to follow his own dream or he would dip.
Sanji is a follower. Jinbe is a leader that has no problem with being led himself.
Zoros only goal is WSS. he does not care to lead. he tags along with Luffy under his own terms.

try again, mate.
 
Is Jinbei really all that good as a Captain though?

I'd say he good in some ways but not so much in others... Jinbei is good at keep his people safe but I don't see the people under him accomplishing much. Jinbei joined the Shichibukai even when his crew was against it (and lost a large chunk of them doing so) because they'd be safer and it would help the causes of others. He threw away that position not for the betterment of his crew but to help people outside of of it. He then joined the Big Mom pirates for protection when he honestly didn't need to so and tied his crew to a crazy control freak... and then started a fight against her so he could join Luffy (who has to be the person Big Mom hates the most right now).

He's a popular leader with his men but I don't think that makes him a good one.
Everything jinbei did was for the sake of his crew and people safe
Always with their best interests at mind
Its only recently that he realized wanted to do something for himself and join luffy. Even then he stayed to protect and help his og crew
 
The concept of being someone that doesn't follow orders has nothing to do with the desire to become a captain. You can be a person who doesn't follow orders and still not have any kind of desire in being a captain. Zoro is one of the best examples of such a case.
Does Zoro ever directly go against Luffy's orders?

it seems to me like Zoro is the one who respects luffy the most
 
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ardym

Well they are all leader and fit to be captains as well Jinbe was a captain . Zoro both of them already led a part of the strawhats as was Luffy was not there.
but Luffy is a league above all he has a charisma more than any one else in the serie , which made his crew the most loyal crew.
 
Everything jinbei did was for the sake of his crew and people safe
Always with their best interests at mind
Its only recently that he realized wanted to do something for himself and join luffy. Even then he stayed to protect and help his og crew
Is that what his crew wanted though? He's not the leaders of civilians who just want a peaceful life but the Captain of a Pirate crew.
 
Rather be funny then retarded like you

Zoro was already a known and accomplished figure. Sanji was a nobody at that time. Stop trying to act like it was something else. The only reason that Zoro was seen as more dangerous at that time is because hes done stuff to garner their attention. Like capturing pirates and what not. Sanji was just in the Baratie.
Not true at all, he had no bounty as a pirate huntrr. And he got the bounty after Crocodile, the only thing Zoro did more than Sanji was defeat Kuro (the Marines didn't knew tho) and Buggy which is basically nothing. The matter of the fact is : while Zoro was recognized and put on alarm by the WG, Sanji was just fodder.
 
Rather be funny then retarded like you

Zoro was already a known and accomplished figure. Sanji was a nobody at that time. Stop trying to act like it was something else. The only reason that Zoro was seen as more dangerous at that time is because hes done stuff to garner their attention. Like capturing pirates and what not. Sanji was just in the Baratie.
Zoro was seen as dangerous while Sanji wasn't even recognized as anyone by the WG, he was literally fodder for the wg. When Zoro had 120m and Sanji had 77m, they had done the same thing. You can't compare Sanji's first bounty to Zoro's first, because Sanji by the time he got that bounty the crew had done more things than when Zoro had it. Plus, that would mean, by your logic, Luffy is the weakest as he had the lowers firs bounty.

Also, Zoro almost had double that of Sanji's bounty when Sanji had it for the first time.
 
Not true at all, he had no bounty as a pirate huntrr. And he got the bounty after Crocodile, the only thing Zoro did more than Sanji was defeat Kuro (the Marines didn't knew tho) and Buggy which is basically nothing. The matter of the fact is : while Zoro was recognized and put on alarm by the WG, Sanji was just fodder.
Ffs your a headache:pepeke:

It isnt about bounty. Its about Zoro already being notrious before he even became a Pirate. He has all his previous hype to help he get a high bounty. Whilst Sanji isnt even known to the marines or the WG at that time, so they have less info on him.

Zoro was seen as dangerous while Sanji wasn't even recognized as anyone by the WG, he was literally fodder for the wg. When Zoro had 120m and Sanji had 77m, they had done the same thing. You can't compare Sanji's first bounty to Zoro's first, because Sanji by the time he got that bounty the crew had done more things than when Zoro had it. Plus, that would mean, by your logic, Luffy is the weakest as he had the lowers firs bounty.

Also, Zoro almost had double that of Sanji's bounty when Sanji had it for the first time.
Are you stupid or are you creating arguments by yourself ? When did I compare both their first bounties ?
 
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