Powers & Abilities The durability problem
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Isn't it the same thing though.
I'm gping to say something blasphemous.
I think Oda has no idea what he's doing here.
He's treating this like a video game.
You know how in video games you can get fucked up and there's no like visible damage being done to your body or clothes but it's just your health bar going down and then you just die and that's it.
I think this is what Oda thinks ryou does to durability. I think Ryou "bypassing" durability is basically a video game mechanic where for example Oden cutting kaido is like an armor or guard break attack on a video game that results in damage being dealt despite the existence of guards.
It's the equivalent of landing a heavy attack on someone guarding to break their defence. That's what "bypass durability" means. Therefore Oden and luffy are doing the same thing. Oden or the scabbards cutting kaido doesn't mean they have overcome the inherent street gth of his durability. It's just a video game. They landed the correct TYPE OF ATTACK that specifically deals damage DESPITE durability
I'm gping to say something blasphemous.
I think Oda has no idea what he's doing here.
He's treating this like a video game.
You know how in video games you can get fucked up and there's no like visible damage being done to your body or clothes but it's just your health bar going down and then you just die and that's it.
I think this is what Oda thinks ryou does to durability. I think Ryou "bypassing" durability is basically a video game mechanic where for example Oden cutting kaido is like an armor or guard break attack on a video game that results in damage being dealt despite the existence of guards.
It's the equivalent of landing a heavy attack on someone guarding to break their defence. That's what "bypass durability" means. Therefore Oden and luffy are doing the same thing. Oden or the scabbards cutting kaido doesn't mean they have overcome the inherent street gth of his durability. It's just a video game. They landed the correct TYPE OF ATTACK that specifically deals damage DESPITE durability
I'm saying "breaking his scales" is the same thing as "bypassing durability"
Let's use quantifiable stats. Let's say Kaido can withstand a NUCLEAR BOMB. His scales are literally tough enough to tank Dozens of megatones of TNTS of force including the radiation and debris caused from the explosion.
This is a what if example. I'm not saying it's a fact.
Then the scabbards manage to do more damage than said nuclear bomb to kaido using Ryou. You are not going to seriously say the scabbards literally have MORE POWER THAN A NUCLEAR BOMB. Right?
That's what I mean when I say this is a video game. In a video game, like let's say Injustice. I can BLOCK certain devasting attacks just by having the CORRECT TYPE OF GUARD. In that moment, my durability is essentially INFINITY. No attack of a certain type can break my guard no matter the force.
But then Guard break attacks exist. There exists a TYPE OF ATTACK that immediately breaks my type of guard Even though the guard break attack is weaker than the other attacks that failed to break said guard.
That's theechanic Oda is using to explain Ryou. Whether he knows it or not. He's doing video game logic.
"Bypassing durability" is basically making kaido work the same way normal people do. Look at it this way:
Normal punches on a human body aren't inherently damaging to the skin right? If you get punched in the stomach, the damage on your skin isn't really the issue. it's the shock wave travelling into you stomach and messing up your organs that's the issue
Kaido for whatever reason prevents that shockwave of force from entering him normally and that's where Ryou comes in. It forces the shock wave passed kaido's durability.
And same applies to swords. A sword on a normal person cuts through skin and into organs.
Kaido prevents swords from even getting passed his skin but Ryou essentially bypasses whatever it is that makes Kaido tough and cuts through his skin and organs.
Ryou isn't breaking Kaido's durability. Both for luffy and Oden. It's IGNORING THEM. Like how guard break attacks in video games ignore the guard it's self. The attacks aren't Stronger than regular attacks. They are just specifically the correct attacks to ignore the durability of the person guarding.
And yes I know, this contradicts certain other concepts such as Zoro cutting steel but it's what Oda is doing. Oda doesn't know he's doing it but it is what it is
Let's use quantifiable stats. Let's say Kaido can withstand a NUCLEAR BOMB. His scales are literally tough enough to tank Dozens of megatones of TNTS of force including the radiation and debris caused from the explosion.
This is a what if example. I'm not saying it's a fact.
Then the scabbards manage to do more damage than said nuclear bomb to kaido using Ryou. You are not going to seriously say the scabbards literally have MORE POWER THAN A NUCLEAR BOMB. Right?
That's what I mean when I say this is a video game. In a video game, like let's say Injustice. I can BLOCK certain devasting attacks just by having the CORRECT TYPE OF GUARD. In that moment, my durability is essentially INFINITY. No attack of a certain type can break my guard no matter the force.
But then Guard break attacks exist. There exists a TYPE OF ATTACK that immediately breaks my type of guard Even though the guard break attack is weaker than the other attacks that failed to break said guard.
That's theechanic Oda is using to explain Ryou. Whether he knows it or not. He's doing video game logic.
"Bypassing durability" is basically making kaido work the same way normal people do. Look at it this way:
Normal punches on a human body aren't inherently damaging to the skin right? If you get punched in the stomach, the damage on your skin isn't really the issue. it's the shock wave travelling into you stomach and messing up your organs that's the issue
Kaido for whatever reason prevents that shockwave of force from entering him normally and that's where Ryou comes in. It forces the shock wave passed kaido's durability.
And same applies to swords. A sword on a normal person cuts through skin and into organs.
Kaido prevents swords from even getting passed his skin but Ryou essentially bypasses whatever it is that makes Kaido tough and cuts through his skin and organs.
Ryou isn't breaking Kaido's durability. Both for luffy and Oden. It's IGNORING THEM. Like how guard break attacks in video games ignore the guard it's self. The attacks aren't Stronger than regular attacks. They are just specifically the correct attacks to ignore the durability of the person guarding.
And yes I know, this contradicts certain other concepts such as Zoro cutting steel but it's what Oda is doing. Oda doesn't know he's doing it but it is what it is
You are saying the Haki barriers stuff?
So what are you saying exactly. Is it actual force that broke the scales?
Like the Haki barriers are strong enough that they generate a force enough to break the scales?
Is that it?
So that means Kiku generated enough force to do more damage than a full frontal assault from gear fourth?
So what are you saying exactly. Is it actual force that broke the scales?
Like the Haki barriers are strong enough that they generate a force enough to break the scales?
Is that it?
So that means Kiku generated enough force to do more damage than a full frontal assault from gear fourth?
Id say it like this
Pre skip g3 punching a building will break more of the building than post skip base luffy with a haki punch
Like g4 luffy will do more damage than a liku attack to a building
But post skip haki luffy easily neggs a pacifista
Pre skip g3 cant
Kiku can break kaidos scales
G4 cant
G4 with ryou can break kaidos defence and do more damage than kiku
Just like g3 luffy given the haki would do more than base luffy with haki
Pre skip g3 punching a building will break more of the building than post skip base luffy with a haki punch
Like g4 luffy will do more damage than a liku attack to a building
But post skip haki luffy easily neggs a pacifista
Pre skip g3 cant
Kiku can break kaidos scales
G4 cant
G4 with ryou can break kaidos defence and do more damage than kiku
Just like g3 luffy given the haki would do more than base luffy with haki
