General & Others The Face Value Thread..

#42
Is there a panel that proves Law did what you are saying ?
If not then I call BS.
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What I saw is Hakai deviating into the air when it was at first directed in a straight line, after Zoro intervened
There is a panel showing Hakai going to the sky lol
When was he teleported ? Is it because Law showed his hands ? No ''room'', no mention afterwards, nothing but we will give it to Law and ignore à full panel of Hakai deviating ?
Then you're saying that Law, Kidd, Killer and Luffy didn't run or didn't have to run and stayed behind Zoro?..
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No one ever said that.
Yes, people won't accept that Hyougoro is a Swordsman but not a Samurai.. He's a Yakuza..
 
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#44
Then you're saying that Law, Kidd, Killer and Luffy didn't run or didn't have to run and stayed behind Zoro?..
That's what was on panel.
I don't see the point of ''misleading'' here; if Oda wanted to show the 4 others fleeing far away he could have, if he wanted to show Law using Room he could have, but he chose to show them shocked and then relieved afterwards and only decided to show Zoro intervene.
 
#45
That's what was on panel.
I don't see the point of ''misleading'' here; if Oda wanted to show the 4 others fleeing far away he could have, if he wanted to show Law using Room he could have, but he chose to show them shocked and then relieved afterwards and only decided to show Zoro intervene.
I guess it's not about missleading there, it's a matter of interpretation..

Zoro said '' move all of you or we're all done for '', he was basicly sacrificing himself.. Why would they need to move if Zoro can or Blocked it.. I think that is enough there to come to the right conclusion..

And Killer appeared to be running for me..
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Do samurai or Yakuza have more face value?
The point is there is a difference between real Swordsmen and Swordsmen.. Hyougoro is the prime example of that he doesn't consider himself a Samurai..
 
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#46
Is there a panel that proves Law did what you are saying ?
If not then I call BS.



Zoro blocked so others could run away. And then he appears next to Law. So it is obvious that Law teleported him to safety since he didn't got fully hit by Hakai because the rocks behind him got destroyed.

By the way Big Mom is specifically saying they got away not that they survived the attack like tanked.
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Yeah, Mother Carmel gave her the powers and left.. Big Mom destroyed the place and they left..:kayneshrug:
Based on nothing. Oda showed to us what was Mother Camel plan. Giving it to Big Mom and leaving makes no sense and you still couldn't explain why the place was destroyed.
 
#48
Not from a week to week basis.. It doesn't make sense actually, Sanji wouldn't have become emotionless if he kept the RS.. lol
Actually we don't know that ,theres nothing that was said that the rs wouldn't effect sanji even more and sanji believed there was chance that the rs could turn him into cold hearted soilder and thats thing that matters if it makes sence for sanji destroy the rs.
 
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#49
Another Prime example in the latest chapter of taking things at Face Value.. Garp said the training had no Haki, therefore no Haki was involved.. False..





Actually we don't know that ,theres nothing that was said that the rs wouldn't effect sanji even more and sanji believed there was chance that the rs could turn him into cold hearted soilder and thats thing that matters if it makes sence for sanji destroy the rs.
That doesn't make sense, that would imply the exoskeleton changed his emotions but it didn't.. The whole thing of the Vinsmokes having no emotions is a lie in the first place..
 
#50
Another Prime example in the latest chapter of taking things at Face Value.. Garp said the training had no Haki, therefore no Haki was involved.. False..


Thats just disagreeing with facts.

That doesn't make sense, that would imply the exoskeleton changed his emotions but it didn't.. The whole thing of the Vinsmokes having no emotions is a lie in the first place..
He thought if he used it more it will activate more of his modifications that will turn him cold hearted and the brothers are cold hearted.
 
#51
Thats just disagreeing with facts.
Facts are that you can not throw a punch trying to break steel without Haki involved.. That's common sense..
You missed the whole subliminal message in '' No Haki ''..

He thought if he used it more it will activate more of his modifications that will turn him cold hearted and the brothers are cold hearted.
Yeah that's dumb.. You can't genetically modify someone's emotions..
 
#53
Facts are that you can not throw a punch trying to break steel without Haki involved.. That's common sense..
You missed the whole subliminal message in '' No Haki ''..
There's no subliminal message garp said dont use haki for this training ok explain to me what is the subliminal message of "do not use haki" and luffy could break steel pre-ts going back to east blue, i dont know what common sense your using your saying "you can not throw a punch trying to break steel without Haki" when real life common sense says you cant destoy stone with your bare hands but in one piece thats normal for characters to do and if your using one piece common sense do i need point out crazy shit that has happen in one piece but breaking steel wirh no haki fisy is a limit this just sounds like head cannon rule.
Yeah that's dumb.. You can't genetically modify someone's emotions..
dude in the real world we can effect emotions with drugs,electricity therapy and surgeries that effect the brain, peoples personality change because of injuries that effected the brain because of that its not hard believe one pieces phantasy science could able to radically change sanjis personality.
 
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