Character Discussion The Gorosei and Imu probably aren't as remarkable as you think they are.
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Wow Imu is confirmed to be merely one of the 20 Founding Kings who was made immortal. I feel validated lol.
Long beforehand, I thought Imu would be a separate entity in charge of the 20 Kings, but she's actually one of them lmao.
There's still a chance of Imu being some sort of alien disguised as a human I guess, but the chances of that look lol
Long beforehand, I thought Imu would be a separate entity in charge of the 20 Kings, but she's actually one of them lmao.
There's still a chance of Imu being some sort of alien disguised as a human I guess, but the chances of that look lol
@Nidai_Kitetsu what is your opinion now?
Actually it's probably somewhat absurd to think the Five Elder Stars are not somehow strange similarly to Imu.
We know Imu has existed since the Void Century or at least we have very good reasons to believe that.
The Five Elders not being from the Void Century would bring up further questions which have not been explained or elaborated on.
The main problem is- there has been no mention of previous Elder Stars or a previous person leading them. New Elder Stars would necessitate that Imu allows new people to know about him.
So the question becomes how can there be NEW Elder Stars if Imu doesn't let anybody know about him? It creates further complexity. From a narrative standpoint, too many complexities creates too many loose ends.
I think it is necessary for them to be remarkable.
We know Imu has existed since the Void Century or at least we have very good reasons to believe that.
The Five Elders not being from the Void Century would bring up further questions which have not been explained or elaborated on.
The main problem is- there has been no mention of previous Elder Stars or a previous person leading them. New Elder Stars would necessitate that Imu allows new people to know about him.
So the question becomes how can there be NEW Elder Stars if Imu doesn't let anybody know about him? It creates further complexity. From a narrative standpoint, too many complexities creates too many loose ends.
I think it is necessary for them to be remarkable.
oda has stated in SBS that 140 is the maximum upper limit of human age, and shown people (even great heroes and fighters) get old and dying in their 70s. kureha is 141. shes immortal dude. if anyone is older than her? they're immortal too. kureha is over double the age of Lao G, the guy whos entire gag is "hes old and dying"
@EmperorKinyagi @Lee Ba Shou what do you think now
I agree and always thought so.
I said this in that Saint Shanks/Garling thread but I always thought the Gorosei were humans first and foremost, because they all belong to human Celestial Dragon families. And ofc like you said there was that one line about Imu being one of the twenty kings which pretty much deals the deal on him/her.
I think a lot of OP fans not having reading comprehension strongly applies here. When Oda has the Gorosei reference humans as if they themselves are not human, Oda is trying to make the reader realize that the Gorosei are hypocrites. Because they think they aren’t human, but in fact they are human. They may be immortal but they are still human. It is part of what makes them so despicable.
And this is how some irl rich people think. Irl rich people start to believe they are special or that they are a transcendent form of human because they don’t experience the same struggles everyone else does. Because being rich disconnects them from the human experience and deludes them into believing they are special. This is why Oda wrote the Celestial Dragons this way, because irl rich people are actually this evil.
Anyway yeah, Gorosei and Imu were obviously human initially.
I said this in that Saint Shanks/Garling thread but I always thought the Gorosei were humans first and foremost, because they all belong to human Celestial Dragon families. And ofc like you said there was that one line about Imu being one of the twenty kings which pretty much deals the deal on him/her.
I think a lot of OP fans not having reading comprehension strongly applies here. When Oda has the Gorosei reference humans as if they themselves are not human, Oda is trying to make the reader realize that the Gorosei are hypocrites. Because they think they aren’t human, but in fact they are human. They may be immortal but they are still human. It is part of what makes them so despicable.
And this is how some irl rich people think. Irl rich people start to believe they are special or that they are a transcendent form of human because they don’t experience the same struggles everyone else does. Because being rich disconnects them from the human experience and deludes them into believing they are special. This is why Oda wrote the Celestial Dragons this way, because irl rich people are actually this evil.
Anyway yeah, Gorosei and Imu were obviously human initially.
My prediction since we saw Van Augur and Devon is that the Gorosei are getting destroyed soon followed by Imu (from bbp) and then we get pirates/marines all out battle.
So yes Gorosei seem hax right now but soon enough they will prove to be usless which will close the circle of them being morons AND ''weak''.
So yes Gorosei seem hax right now but soon enough they will prove to be usless which will close the circle of them being morons AND ''weak''.
The Gorosei and to a lesser extent Imu not being humans would invalidate all the storylines of the "good" Celestial Dragons like Mjosgard and Homing.
I think if there is some sort of primordial alien/demon, it will be like your theory where Imu has been holding it back during his time as a ruler of the world
I think if there is some sort of primordial alien/demon, it will be like your theory where Imu has been holding it back during his time as a ruler of the world
Yeah I really don't think they're fruit users at all, they have and share powers that are eccentric in nature and every character so far never refer to them as human but monsters. Their eyes are another detail that is unique to them too resembling the eyes that imu's has. They have no many things that are unique to them that it's hard to call it fruit powers when no devil fruit in the series has had these abilities.