Bougya The Great Debate: ACoC or not?

After reading my explanation what is your opinion?


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I'm referring to clash where Lightning Haki is involved..
Again you don't get my point, it's the same as Luffy getting hurt from Kaido cause he couldn't fully dodge his thunder Bagua on chapter 1001..
i am also referring to clashes where lightning haki is involved. And i am telling you the Luffy Kaido panel wasn't a clash but an impact and the haki is kaido's only not luffy because Luffy thought he could dodge but got hit.

Lucci situation is the same the haki lightning is Zoro's only because Lucci got hit and he never clashed on that panel it was an impact from Zoro's attack.
 
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Herrera95

Making things up is magically believing that CoA Barrier and Coating your Sword with CoA is anything alike..

Whatever.. I think Zoro could still move and that was a Haki clash from Kaido hit and Zoro, Law enduring the attack
Stop denying manga facts.

The explanation is the same for Zoro and Hyogoro.

Zoro said that he gave his all and then collapsed. He couldn't move. He had no haki left.
 
i am also referring to clashes where lightning haki is involved. And i am telling you the Luffy Kaido panel wasn't a clash but an impact and the haki is kaido's only not luffy because Luffy thought he could dodge but got hit.

Lucci situation is the same the haki lightning is Zoro's only because Lucci got hit and he never clashed on that panel it was an impact from Zoro's attack.
A Haki clash resulting from impact.. You think a higher tier fighter is just going to surrender when they are cut?.. Ridiculous

Stop denying manga facts.

The explanation is the same for Zoro and Hyogoro.

Zoro said that he gave his all and then collapsed. He couldn't move. He had no haki left.
Stop manipulating manga evidence to your advantage.. Imbuing CoA into a Sword has nothing to do with CoA Barrier and CoA internal destruction.. The Haki usage is completely different..

I think he could move and still had a little bit of haki in him left..
 
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Stop manipulating manga evidence to your advantage.. Imbuing CoA into a Sword has nothing to do with CoA Barrier and CoA internal destruction.. The Haki usage is completely different..

I think he could move and still had a little bit of haki in him left..
I'm using manga facts as they are. You are the knew manipulating with your headcannon. The explanation of haki is strictly the same yet you want to say they are different things.

Zoro couldn't move at all. That's why Sanji had to carry him and then bandage him like a mummy. That's why he needed magic pill.
 
I'm using manga facts as they are. You are the knew manipulating with your headcannon. The explanation of haki is strictly the same yet you want to say they are different things.

Zoro couldn't move at all. That's why Sanji had to carry him and then bandage him like a mummy. That's why he needed magic pill.
You're not using manga facts at all, CoA barrier is in empty air, CoA coated in sword are object solid form, completely different, i will not let go on this absurdity..

To be fully recovered, i'm saying Zoro still had 1% left in him..
 
A Haki clash resulting from impact.. You think a higher tier fighter is just going to surrender when they are cut?.. Ridiculous
A Haki clash is a result of 2 force of impacts not 1 impact its a clash dude LOL both sides needs to impact to cause the so called "Clash".

Surrender when they are cut? dude Lucci saw it but couldn't have the time to brace himself. It looked too quick for someone to react to in time. So no he didn't clash with Zoro he straight up got up and couldn't do anything about it. Now will he come back up next chapter? we don't know.

So nope try again you are not convincing anyone with your "clashed with his body".
 
A Haki clash is a result of 2 force of impacts not 1 impact its a clash dude LOL both sides needs to impact to cause the so called "Clash".

Surrender when they are cut? dude Lucci saw it but couldn't have the time to brace himself. It looked too quick for someone to react to in time. So no he didn't clash with Zoro he straight up got up and couldn't do anything about it. Now will he come back up next chapter? we don't know.

So nope try again you are not convincing anyone with your "clashed with his body".
No a Haki clash is 2 strong willpower colliding.. There doesn't need to be force for there to be Willpower..

Gamma Knife created a Haki Clash from Kaido's pain alone..



Big Mom receiving direct pain from Damned Punk..

 
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You're not using manga facts at all, CoA barrier is in empty air, CoA coated in sword are object solid form, completely different, i will not let go on this absurdity..

To be fully recovered, i'm saying Zoro still had 1% left in him..
Stop headcannon. Manga has the same explanation for CoA on sword and CoA barrier.

And manga says and shows that Zoro had nothing left. He was at worst condition than Luffy getting out of G4.
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No a Haki clash is 2 strong willpower colliding.. There doesn't need to be force for there to be Willpower..

Gamma Knife created a Haki Clash from Kaido's pain alone..



Big Mom receiving direct pain from Damned Punk..

Dude Gamma knife faces no resistance at all it is internal damage.
 
No a Haki clash is 2 strong willpower colliding.. There doesn't need to be force for there to be Willpower..
Yes thats exactly what i said the force here is "willpower" aka "haki"

Gamma Knife created a Haki Clash from Kaido's pain alone..



Big Mom receiving direct pain from Damned Punk..

That Gamma Knife was an impact of the Gamma Knife itself where is the clash here?? Kaido was tanking those hits without trying then he himself pointed out that they weren't idiots for trying. So no there was no clash there only an impact.

Damned Punk vs Big Mom is also not clash.. He is hitting her body directly and she is doing something else not trying to stop his beam.

You know what Haki clash looks like how about you actually use the panels where Kaido vs Luffy clashed multiple times. LOL
 
Stop headcannon. Manga has the same explanation for CoA on sword and CoA barrier.

And manga says and shows that Zoro had nothing left. He was at worst condition than Luffy getting out of G4.
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Dude Gamma knife faces no resistance at all it is internal damage.
Completely wrong.. CoA on Sword and CoA barrier are 2 different CoA application.. In Luffy's training of him blowing up tree, he can't blow up the tree if he only coats the tree with CoA.. You're clueless..

Zoro doesn't matter, i'm talking about Haki clash.. The last chapter, Zoro didn't use Haki on his sword, the haki lightning was being released from the where Lucci got cut, since Lucci resisted there was a Haki lightning clash resistance..

The resistance comes from Kaido, pain and Haki Lightning resistance..


Yes thats exactly what i said the force here is "willpower" aka "haki"


That Gamma Knife was an impact of the Gamma Knife itself where is the clash here?? Kaido was tanking those hits without trying then he himself pointed out that they weren't idiots for trying. So no there was no clash there only an impact.

Damned Punk vs Big Mom is also not clash.. He is hitting her body directly and she is doing something else not trying to stop his beam.

You know what Haki clash looks like how about you actually use the panels where Kaido vs Luffy clashed multiple times. LOL
Big Mom is emitting Haki Lightning pain resistance as a response to tanking while taking damage from Damned Punk..

Haki clash are not only limited to standard 1vs 1 attack meeting one another..
 
Completely wrong.. CoA on Sword and CoA barrier are 2 different CoA application.. In Luffy's training of him blowing up tree, he can't blow up the tree if he only coats the tree with CoA.. You're clueless..

Zoro doesn't matter, i'm talking about Haki clash.. The last chapter, Zoro didn't use Haki on his sword, the haki lightning was being released from the where Lucci got cut, since Lucci resisted there was a Haki lightning clash resistance..

The resistance comes from Kaido, pain and Haki Lightning resistance..



Big Mom is emitting Haki Lightning pain resistance as a response to tanking while taking damage from Damned Punk..

Haki clash are not only limited to standard 1vs 1 attack meeting one another..
"Haki clash" USOPP xD
 
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Herrera95

Completely wrong.. CoA on Sword and CoA barrier are 2 different CoA application.. In Luffy's training of him blowing up tree, he can't blow up the tree if he only coats the tree with CoA.. You're clueless..

Zoro doesn't matter, i'm talking about Haki clash.. The last chapter, Zoro didn't use Haki on his sword, the haki lightning was being released from the where Lucci got cut, since Lucci resisted there was a Haki lightning clash resistance..

The resistance comes from Kaido, pain and Haki Lightning resistance..
You are saying manga is wrong which is ridiculous.

Now Zoro doesn't matter when I just showed you the same effects against someone offering no resistance at all. You are a clown.
 
You are saying manga is wrong which is ridiculous.

Now Zoro doesn't matter when I just showed you the same effects against someone offering no resistance at all. You are a clown.
You're ridiculous claiming your opinion as manga fact.. CoA on sword and CoA Barrier are completely different, you will never get out of this..

Sure you want to be right about Zoro getting hit by Kaido, it's just one example.. Usopp vs Ulti, Scabbards vs Kaido Totsuka Paradise, all are Haki clash, my point stand.. Keep trying..
 
Big Mom is emitting Haki Lightning pain resistance as a response to tanking while taking damage from Damned Punk..

Haki clash are not only limited to standard 1vs 1 attack meeting one another..
Haki clash means both participants are using what to clash ? Haki .. And Kid wasn't using Haki so its not a haki clash.

AND on top of that Kid was aiming at Big Mom and Big Mom was randomly shooting haki and soul pocus everywhere so she isn't aiming at Kid's beam WHICH means its not a CLASH.

Try again

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Herrera95

You're ridiculous claiming your opinion as manga fact.. CoA on sword and CoA Barrier are completely different, you will never get out of this..

Sure you want to be right about Zoro getting hit by Kaido, it's just one example.. Usopp vs Ulti, Scabbards vs Kaido Totsuka Paradise, all are Haki clash, my point stand.. Keep trying..
Not opinion I'm literally showing you what manga says. I don't need opinion on that. You are the one who got an opinion that goes against what is said at manga.
 
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