X marks the spot, the location of the treasure
The biggest trope when looking for famed treasure is the classic dotted line leading to the X, which marks the spot of the treasure at which point you would normally dig and find the buried treasure.
In One Piece terms, the dotted line you follow is the log pose path you choose at the start of the journey.
And the X is the giant X that is right under our noses on the world map...Reverse Mountain.
I believe the final island and the One Piece treasure is located either inside or beneath Reverse Mountain. Just as you must navigate the currents at the entrance of the grand line to climb up the mountain and spit you out at the entrance, I believe when you reach the end, you need to “dig” under the X. In this case, dive down to the depths of the ocean where you perhaps have to take a current or something even more extreme like a Whitestrom that takes you inside or under Reverse Mountain
Why I believe this to be true:
In Oden’s flashback Roger describes his journey to Whitebeard and Oden in this panel. He reaches the last known island and realizes it is indeed not the last island. The log pose went haywire and he realized the four road poneglyphs will reveal the location of the true final island, these two details are very important.
It is at this point I believe you go to the one place where Pirates wish to avoid, the final resting place of many of their kind, the stuff of legends where Davy Jones collects their remains -- the Sea Floor, a depth even further than the likes of Fishmen Island, where you have to travel within the Planet before surfacing inside or beneath Reverse Mountain.
Note - I believe this is why Buggy and Toki both come down with a sudden sickness as they approach the end.
They are the only known Devil Fruit users in the crew and are cursed by the seas. This parallels the Apep story, of the world encircler who awaits in the mountain west of Egypt. If the path to Laugh Tale takes you to the bottom of the seas and within the planet, they are approaching the “source” of the curse. Toki, who has had her powers for 800 years, is more cursed and became sick first. Buggy, who recently acquired his curse, got sick very close to the end. It’s not that they can’t enter, it's that they’re having a “premonition” of sorts as they approach the source of the Devil Fruit curse - kinda like Harry Potter’s scar hurting when Voldemort gets close.
Just as you have to take a current up at the beginning of the Grand Line and a current all the way down at the midpoint of the journey, I believe you will have to combine these and go down and back up again at the end, surfacing within or beneath Reverse Mountain. How can you “surface” beneath something? First of all, we have “oceans'' in the sky in this series so let's not be close minded. However there is an actual real life equivalent to what I’m proposing: subsurface oceans, which exist on moons of other planets.
So when you “surface” within/beneath Reverse Mountain there will be everything necessary to throw the feast of all feasts. Binks Sake left by Joy Boy, a “mini” All Blue underground surrounding the island, and left there a message along with the true history of the world. The treasure of One Piece can’t be enjoyed until you can return the world to a state where everyone can participate in what is supposed to be the biggest party ever.
However, to return to the natural state of the world also means lifting the curse of the Sea Devil and freeing it, which lies the source of the conflict.
The last variable is the (t) or time, this is the trickiest aspect to nail down, but I believe it has to do with the position of the Moon.
It’s well known that the Moon has a huge effect on the tides and currents. When entering the Grand Line Nami noted the importance of following the currents or else you would crash into the mountain and sink to the bottom. I think you need to similarly follow the currents at the end but the key is to do it depending on the certain position/phase of the moon.
The Road Poneglyphs are created and protected by members of the aforementioned (more on this here: One Peace - lengthy theory) alliance who share a reverence for the moon. If this treasure really has the true history the WG is trying to hide, then it would make sense for our “moon alliance” to make the moon necessary in order to find it.
This may explain why the WG is simply unable to destroy the treasure. Not only is it in a place that is hard to get to, but there is a component of when to get there as well, and if you time it wrong it would mean your demise.
The “real” treasure:
“Alexis2282AE that's cool and all, but what about Actual treasure this just sounds like some friends we made along the way bologna”
We got confirmation from Oden’s log that there is indeed a vast treasure that stood before them.
I believe that the vast treasure that stood before them was the enormous banquet style setting that was needed for Joy Boy’s party. The biggest party ever will only have the most gallant and beautiful furniture and treasure to eat and drink out of, along with riches to be shared by all. I believe there are two sources where the vast amount of treasure will come from:
For the first (and imo most likely) I direct you to the city of Shandora, once an ally of Joy Boy. Recall when Noland and his crew visited 400 years ago. The Shandians offered them all the gold and treasure they could take, as the Poneglyph and Bell was the real treasure they protected.
Afterwards Kalgara mentioned they were the first welcomed guests there since the collapse of the city 400 years prior (a total of 800 years ago from the present aka the end of the Void Century), in Joy Boy’s time.
Since they were protectors of a Poneglyph and an ally of Joy Boy and an enemy of the WG, I believe they let Joy Boy take all the gold and treasure he could carry for his party that has now become part of the One Piece. The treasure wasn’t ever of any value to them, and they were willing to share their riches with the world at this party for all.
My second thought (and less likely due to lack of info right now) is that a massive amount of treasure could come from Wano.
If you recall, while posing as Gyukimaru, Onimaru told Zoro that Wano was once known as the “Land of Gold,” and was the target of many people.
Since the poneglyphs originate in Wano, I believe there is a chance that a massive amount of treasure could have come from here centuries ago, much like Shandora and Noland.
Most importantly the existence of this massive treasure means Luffy will finally pay back his “treasure tab” from Chapter 1 which has accumulated a great deal of interest after 1000+ chapters.
The biggest trope when looking for famed treasure is the classic dotted line leading to the X, which marks the spot of the treasure at which point you would normally dig and find the buried treasure.
In One Piece terms, the dotted line you follow is the log pose path you choose at the start of the journey.
And the X is the giant X that is right under our noses on the world map...Reverse Mountain.
I believe the final island and the One Piece treasure is located either inside or beneath Reverse Mountain. Just as you must navigate the currents at the entrance of the grand line to climb up the mountain and spit you out at the entrance, I believe when you reach the end, you need to “dig” under the X. In this case, dive down to the depths of the ocean where you perhaps have to take a current or something even more extreme like a Whitestrom that takes you inside or under Reverse Mountain
Why I believe this to be true:
In Oden’s flashback Roger describes his journey to Whitebeard and Oden in this panel. He reaches the last known island and realizes it is indeed not the last island. The log pose went haywire and he realized the four road poneglyphs will reveal the location of the true final island, these two details are very important.
- When we reached the New World, we learned that a single log pose is not enough due to the magnetic fields changing. So once Roger reached the last island why were they going haywire?
- Well, as we can see from the world map, the end of the Grand Line is simply the other side of the beginning, Reverse Mountain, which is part of the Red Line.
- Nami describes the Red Line as a series of many different islands interlocked together, Reverse Mountain specifically being a Winter Island. So if the Red Line is just a bunch of different islands, should they not have an overwhelming amount of magnetic fields that you could not lock onto? These fields essentially obfuscate Laugh Tale’s own magnetic field because it is within theirs, instead of locking on to it, you get a bunch of interference, causing the log to go haywire.
- The other big clue is that you need four poneglyphs to find its location.
- Normally, if you are looking for an island on the sea you would only need two points (x,y) to derive its possible locations.
- However, this is One Piece and we know that islands exist both in the sky (Skypiea) or beneath the surface (Fishmen Island). For this reason we would need a 3rd coordinate (x,y,z) in order to figure out depth.
- But we know we actually need four Poneglyphs in order to find Laugh Tale. This fourth coordinate would likely be time (x,y,z,t). Laugh Tale is only accessible during a certain time, period, window, etc.
It is at this point I believe you go to the one place where Pirates wish to avoid, the final resting place of many of their kind, the stuff of legends where Davy Jones collects their remains -- the Sea Floor, a depth even further than the likes of Fishmen Island, where you have to travel within the Planet before surfacing inside or beneath Reverse Mountain.
Note - I believe this is why Buggy and Toki both come down with a sudden sickness as they approach the end.
They are the only known Devil Fruit users in the crew and are cursed by the seas. This parallels the Apep story, of the world encircler who awaits in the mountain west of Egypt. If the path to Laugh Tale takes you to the bottom of the seas and within the planet, they are approaching the “source” of the curse. Toki, who has had her powers for 800 years, is more cursed and became sick first. Buggy, who recently acquired his curse, got sick very close to the end. It’s not that they can’t enter, it's that they’re having a “premonition” of sorts as they approach the source of the Devil Fruit curse - kinda like Harry Potter’s scar hurting when Voldemort gets close.
Just as you have to take a current up at the beginning of the Grand Line and a current all the way down at the midpoint of the journey, I believe you will have to combine these and go down and back up again at the end, surfacing within or beneath Reverse Mountain. How can you “surface” beneath something? First of all, we have “oceans'' in the sky in this series so let's not be close minded. However there is an actual real life equivalent to what I’m proposing: subsurface oceans, which exist on moons of other planets.
So when you “surface” within/beneath Reverse Mountain there will be everything necessary to throw the feast of all feasts. Binks Sake left by Joy Boy, a “mini” All Blue underground surrounding the island, and left there a message along with the true history of the world. The treasure of One Piece can’t be enjoyed until you can return the world to a state where everyone can participate in what is supposed to be the biggest party ever.
However, to return to the natural state of the world also means lifting the curse of the Sea Devil and freeing it, which lies the source of the conflict.
The last variable is the (t) or time, this is the trickiest aspect to nail down, but I believe it has to do with the position of the Moon.
It’s well known that the Moon has a huge effect on the tides and currents. When entering the Grand Line Nami noted the importance of following the currents or else you would crash into the mountain and sink to the bottom. I think you need to similarly follow the currents at the end but the key is to do it depending on the certain position/phase of the moon.
The Road Poneglyphs are created and protected by members of the aforementioned (more on this here: One Peace - lengthy theory) alliance who share a reverence for the moon. If this treasure really has the true history the WG is trying to hide, then it would make sense for our “moon alliance” to make the moon necessary in order to find it.
This may explain why the WG is simply unable to destroy the treasure. Not only is it in a place that is hard to get to, but there is a component of when to get there as well, and if you time it wrong it would mean your demise.
The “real” treasure:
“Alexis2282AE that's cool and all, but what about Actual treasure this just sounds like some friends we made along the way bologna”
We got confirmation from Oden’s log that there is indeed a vast treasure that stood before them.
I believe that the vast treasure that stood before them was the enormous banquet style setting that was needed for Joy Boy’s party. The biggest party ever will only have the most gallant and beautiful furniture and treasure to eat and drink out of, along with riches to be shared by all. I believe there are two sources where the vast amount of treasure will come from:
For the first (and imo most likely) I direct you to the city of Shandora, once an ally of Joy Boy. Recall when Noland and his crew visited 400 years ago. The Shandians offered them all the gold and treasure they could take, as the Poneglyph and Bell was the real treasure they protected.
Afterwards Kalgara mentioned they were the first welcomed guests there since the collapse of the city 400 years prior (a total of 800 years ago from the present aka the end of the Void Century), in Joy Boy’s time.
Since they were protectors of a Poneglyph and an ally of Joy Boy and an enemy of the WG, I believe they let Joy Boy take all the gold and treasure he could carry for his party that has now become part of the One Piece. The treasure wasn’t ever of any value to them, and they were willing to share their riches with the world at this party for all.
My second thought (and less likely due to lack of info right now) is that a massive amount of treasure could come from Wano.
If you recall, while posing as Gyukimaru, Onimaru told Zoro that Wano was once known as the “Land of Gold,” and was the target of many people.
Since the poneglyphs originate in Wano, I believe there is a chance that a massive amount of treasure could have come from here centuries ago, much like Shandora and Noland.
Most importantly the existence of this massive treasure means Luffy will finally pay back his “treasure tab” from Chapter 1 which has accumulated a great deal of interest after 1000+ chapters.
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