Current Events The marines would have no chances at winning in Egghead

[bzxw27]

Even if the WG were to send to egghead all marines and their mothers with diapers in hands with deskainu they wouldn't win against the SHs, stussy, four seraphims, bonney and the giants
Only the lorosei can do it or imu
One third of the marines are there ,what did they achieve?
Ps: sengoku isn't part of the marines and momousagi and tokikake need to prove they are stronger than jinbei one on one first and garp is gone so really it's deskainu three guys luffy can beat in one hour each the same day and 30 red king level guys plus the two overhyped top yc level guys.

Luffy could eat 3 admirals a day with peperoni and cheese
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S hawk moves his hand and four vice admirals die
the new pacifistas look in the general direction of the rear admirals that are mostly weaker than Maynard and they all die

 

[Herrera95]

Weak bait

 

[SkySanji]

True, there's a reason why the Five Gorosei went themselves, the Latrines would get flushed.

 

[Peroroncino]

It seems akainu at least will be an opponent later for the SHs than the gorosei are which means he'll be stronger than them

 

[bzxw27]

It seems akainu at least will be an opponent later for the SHs than the gorosei are which means he'll be stronger than them

Yeah frankly deskainu is the only challenge here , Luffy could pizza diff kizaru and green bull just like he did kizaru and Saturn and fujitora was stalled by dressrosa sabo that's his biggest feat so there is no basis to hype him to the moon and act like he could beat current zoro in 20 minutes while even kaido didn't do it to yamato

 

[BlackLegFring]

The Strawhats needed massive help as always to make it this far.
They needed the Pacifista on their side with Vegapunk and then Bonney with supreme command…needed the bubble guns to trap the Seraphim, and Luffy’s special connection to Hancock…needed Caribou to feed Luffy a feast and the Marines to not do anything about it either, etc.

If anything, it just emphasizes how much they fall short of a fraction of the Navy’s forces. Also how much they rely on luck to survive.

 

[bzxw27]

The Strawhats needed massive help as always to make it this far.
They needed the Pacifista on their side with Vegapunk and then Bonney with supreme command…needed the bubble guns to trap the Seraphim, and Luffy’s special connection to Hancock…needed Caribou to feed Luffy a feast and the Marines to not do anything about it either, etc.

If anything, it just emphasizes how much they fall short of a fraction of the Navy’s forces. Also how much they rely on luck to survive.

The strawhats have a grand fleet of Cavendish,Bartolomeo,sai and chinjao who are all faaaar stronger than your average vice admiral
They also have seven scabbards + momonosuke + shinobu + Yamato on their side

With just the grand fleet and the wano forces they would crush the seraphimless current marines

If Marco and zou join in it wouldn't even be a battle
Four admirals + two admiral candidates and basically fodders Vs Luffy zoro sanji Yamato jinbei sulong neko sulong inu and denjiro while the others clean up the rest in 30 minutes before helping the main fighters.

Franky , robin,brook,sai and Cavendish and momonosuke are all stronger or around gurenica's level so they surely can tilt the scale in favour of the main fighters

 

[BlackLegFring]

The strawhats have a grand fleet of Cavendish,Bartolomeo,sai and chinjao who are all faaaar stronger than your average vice admiral
They also have seven scabbards + momonoske + shinobu + Yamato on their side

With just the grand fleet and the wano forces they would crush the seraphimless current marines

If Marco and zou join in it wouldn't even be a battle

The Grand Fleet is not on Egghead, or did you forget your own topic?


If you are talking about full forces then it’s even worse. The Seraphim alone could crush the Grand Fleet, let alone the 100,000 marines & dozens of battleships on top of that.
The 50 MK III Pacifista could probably take out a chunk of the Grand Fleet on their own.

Fujitora alone nearly wiped out the Grand Fleet on a whim in Dressrosa.
The fact that you’re already backtracking and having to remove forces of the Navy like the Seraphim already says it all. As the 1st comment says, you’ve got to use stronger bait from the get go.

 

[bzxw27]

The Grand Fleet is not on Egghead, or did you forget your own topic?


If you are talking about full forces then it’s even worse. The Seraphim alone could crush the Grand Fleet, let alone the 100,000 marines & dozens of battleships on top of that.
The 50 MK III Pacifista could probably take out a chunk of the Grand Fleet on their own.

Fujitora alone nearly wiped out the Grand Fleet on a whim in Dressrosa.
The fact that you’re already backtracking and having to remove forces of the Navy like the Seraphim already says it all. As the 1st comment says, you’ve got to use stronger bait from the get go.

The thing is the strawhats never had trouble on egghead from the marines seraphims included, remove cp0 and Saturn and then Luffy could eat all human marines alone . The seraphims didn't prove to be stronger than serious mid trio + jinbei all the others could sit down and eat popcorn until kizaru is dead and the SHs would still win
Zoro and sanji aren't even needed

If zoro and sanji were to participate kizaru would die in less than 3 minutes since he got pizzadiffef along with saturn in less than 2 minutes by luffy alone.
Once Luffy hits him and he gets dizzy zoro cuts his throat with one move

 

[BlackLegFring]

The thing is the strawhats never had trouble on egghead from the marines seraphims included, remove cp0 and Saturn and then Luffy could eat all human marines alone . The seraphims didn't prove to be stronger than mid trio + jinbei all the others could sit down and eat popcorn until kizaru is dead and the SHs would still win

Huh? Did you read a different manga?

- Franky & Usopp were petrified by S-Snake with little effort. Apart from Luffy, the rest of the Strawhats would have followed suit while occupied with the other Seraphim.
- CP0 joined the Strawhats in fighting them and Kaku got seriously injured doing so. No Strawhats besides the top 3 Commanders are surviving in his place….and Robin was still seriously injured despite Kaku’s help.
^That’s just 4 of the 7 Seraphim. Add the rest and only the Monster trio + Jimbe are guaranteed to survive.

Besides that, you seem to have forgotten Kizaru strangling Usopp and having other opportunities to take out Strawhats.
Luffy had to use full effort and go into his strongest form just to compete with Kizaru…and that left him so depleted that he was begging for food helplessly on the ground.

If not for Vegapunk’s control of the Pacifista & weaponry, the Strawhats would be screwed with even just the Marine forces.

 

[bzxw27]

Huh? Did you read a different manga?

- Franky & Usopp were petrified by S-Snake with little effort. Apart from Luffy, the rest of the Strawhats would have followed suit while occupied with the other Seraphim.
- CP0 joined the Strawhats in fighting them and Kaku got seriously injured doing so. No Strawhats besides the top 3 Commanders are surviving in his place….and Robin was still seriously injured despite Kaku’s help.
^That’s just 4 of the 7 Seraphim. Add the rest and only the Monster trio + Jimbe are guaranteed to survive.

Besides that, you seem to have forgotten Kizaru strangling Usopp and having other opportunities to take out Strawhats.
Luffy had to use full effort and go into his strongest form just to compete with Kizaru…and that left him so depleted that he was begging for food helplessly on the ground.

If not for Vegapunk’s control of the Pacifista & weaponry, the Strawhats would be screwed with even just the Marine forces.

usopp is fodder and yes s snake is dangerous and we are only talking about the seraphims that are on egghead.
There is a huge difference between incapacitating a seraphim and fighting it long enough, the seraphims have no feats bar dura that puts them at the level of cracker or jack so they are by feats currently weaker than them and this puts them at demonio robin and shogun franky's level at most if we go by feats , getting up again and again won't make you win a fight in a short time. Now compare any seraphim with jinbei featwise and you will see that there is no comparison at all
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And no robin was just injured and not seriously injured and kizaru was running around from Luffy knowing he is a light man when he strangled fodder usopp so really running around like a cat and then getting koed in one hit by non fresh luffy what a feat
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Also s snake didn't petrify Franky she did it to base no shogun no shogun sword Franky. Shogun Franky with his sword is bigger than a pacifista so really that attack wouldn't even petrify his head since it is an object with no feelings

 

[BlackLegFring]

usopp is fodder and yes s snake is dangerous and we are only talking about the seraphims that are on egghead.
There is a huge difference between incapacitating a seraphim and fighting it long enough, the seraphims have no feats bar dura that puts them at the level of cracker or jack so they are by feats currently weaker than them and this puts them at demonio robin and shogun franky's level at most if we go by feats , getting up again and again won't make you win a fight in a short time. Now compare any seraphim with jinbei featwise and you will see that there is no comparison at all
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And no robin was just injured and not seriously injured and kizaru was running around from Luffy knowing he is a light man when he strangled fodder usopp so really running around like a cat and then getting koed in one hit by non fresh luffy what a feat

Was it ever stated that the other 3 Seraphim aren’t on Egghead? They’re overkill anyway, as I already said.
Durability is part of combat ability, and it makes the Seraphim even deadlier opponents for the weaker Strawhats than the likes of Cracker & Jack.

You also seem to forget that we’ve already seen Robin’s state in dealing with them even with Kaku helping out. The weaker Strawhats are simply screwed. Sanji had to step in to save Nami & Brook from S-Shark too.
Add in Pacifista & Vice Admirals for them to deal with too and it’s obviously game over for all below the top 4 of the crew.

Robin has been sleeping the entire time just to recover. Did you think that Chopper was joking when he said her injuries were serious?
Kizaru’s target was Vegapunk to begin with, and that still had Luffy scrambling. Imagine if Kizaru wanted to kill Usopp in the moment he was strangling him, for example.

Even then, Luffy expended all his energy to momentarily knock down Kizaru who got up on his own anyway and was kicking Franky moments later.
Unless your definition of “KO” changed to someone standing up and still fighting, taunting and terrorizing his enemies, then you need to re-read.

 

[RyoQ]

If Akainu was sent it would just be this all over again, except without territory restrictions and obligations to protect citizens and Marines

 

[bzxw27]

Was it ever stated that the other 3 Seraphim aren’t on Egghead? They’re overkill anyway, as I already said.
Durability is part of combat ability, and it makes the Seraphim even deadlier opponents for the weaker Strawhats than the likes of Cracker & Jack.

You also seem to forget that we’ve already seen Robin’s state in dealing with them even with Kaku helping out. The weaker Strawhats are simply screwed. Sanji had to step in to save Nami & Brook from S-Shark too.
Add in Pacifista & Vice Admirals for them to deal with too and it’s obviously game over for all below the top 4 of the crew.

Robin has been sleeping the entire time just to recover. Did you think that Chopper was joking when he said her injuries were serious?
Kizaru’s target was Vegapunk to begin with, and that still had Luffy scrambling. Imagine if Kizaru wanted to kill Usopp in the moment he was strangling him, for example.

Even then, Luffy expended all his energy to momentarily knock down Kizaru who got up on his own anyway and was kicking Franky moments later.
Unless your definition of “KO” changed to someone standing up and still fighting, taunting and terrorizing his enemies, then you need to re-read.

If you're talking about brook then let me tell you he needs no saving against the seraphims bar s snake because he is completely invincible against them unless lasers can "harm" him because the seraphims have no haki and no kairouseki

and if you're unable to move for many minutes due to an attack you were incapacitated and any fodder with a gun or sword can kill you.
You are right about robin being injured but Franky didn't use the shogun and do you really think the 8 fodder vice admirals bar doberman could ever do something against zeus who koed judge with a casual attack?
Red king and bluegrass with his little sea beast weapon surviving 30 seconds against zeus, try and picture that
Or tossa trying to beat monster chopper with his ten little fingers how much would he survive? Tossa was hyped up because his fingers can destroy some steel

 

[BlackLegFring]

If you're talking about brook then let me tell you he needs no saving against the seraphims bar s snake because he is completely invincible against them unless lasers can "harm" him because the seraphims have no haki and no kairouseki

and if you're unable to move for many minutes due to an attack you were incapacitated and any fodder with a gun or sword can kill you.
You are right about robin being injured but Franky didn't use the shogun and do you really think the 8 fodder vice admirals bar doberman could ever do something against zeus who koed judge with a casual attack?

You really don’t read the manga, huh? Why did you think that Sanji had to go and save Nami if Brook could do anything to S-Shark? They don’t need to kill Brook to take him out of the equation.

As for the second part, I assume you are referring to Kizaru? Unfortunately for you, he could still clearly move his hands. All he’d need to do is point at any fodder and they’re done. He’s still a logia as well, so only someone with Haki could even pose a threat to begin with.
It’s not like anyone else could do much to him while he was dazed when they’d have their hands full with everything else.
Again, it only ends terribly for the Strawhats when Kizaru gets up momentarily afterwards and the only person that could stop him is still on the floor begging for food.

 

[bzxw27]

You really don’t read the manga, huh? Why did you think that Sanji had to go and save Nami if Brook could do anything to S-Shark? They don’t need to kill Brook to take him out of the equation.

As for the second part, I assume you are referring to Kizaru? Unfortunately for you, he could still clearly move his hands. All he’d need to do is point at any fodder and they’re done. He’s still a logia as well, so only someone with Haki could even pose a threat to begin with.
It’s not like anyone else could do much to him while he was dazed when they’d have their hands full with everything else.
Again, it only ends terribly for the Strawhats when Kizaru gets up momentarily afterwards and the only person that could stop him is still on the floor begging for food.

ok then Sanji or zoro finish him in 10 seconds while he is on the ground, trust me it's not doberman or s shark who would save him from sanji nor the other three seraphims who are fighting the mid trio and let's not even talk about the 8 super fodders reacting to sanji when queen could hardly do it
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Do you remember hakuba Vs the coloseum fighters? that's roughly full power Sanji vs the 8 fodder vice admirals and doberman

 

[BlackLegFring]

ok then Sanji or zoro finish him in 10 seconds while he is on the ground, trust me it's not doberman or s shark who would save him from sanji

Lmao! While the Seraphim are slaughtering the rest of the Strawhats? Nice try. Even if Zoro & Sanji don’t have their hands full, neither has the ability to finish off Kizaru in any capacity. He was just momentarily dazed, not on his death bed. Even Luffy hitting him with a couple of attacks afterwards (surprise attacks as well) still didn’t finish him off. He was more concerned with lamenting about fulfilling his mission despite all the interference.

 

[Juanpiz]

 

[bzxw27]

Lmao! While the Seraphim are slaughtering the rest of the Strawhats? Nice try. Even if Zoro & Sanji don’t have their hands full, neither has the ability to finish off Kizaru in any capacity. He was just momentarily dazed, not on his death bed. Even Luffy hitting him with a couple of attacks afterwards (surprise attacks as well) still didn’t finish him off. He was more concerned with lamenting about fulfilling his mission despite all the interference.

Kizaru literally said I can't move
And the seraphims never slaughtered any one bar usopp even Nami fought s shark and damaged him s shark fell into the ground with his eyes white whith one fully charged attack just one

 

[BlackLegFring]

Kizaru literally said I can't move
And the seraphims never slaughtered any one bar usopp even Nami fought s shark and damaged him s shark fell into the ground with his eyes white whit one fully charged attack

Yes, he was dazed….and? Is that a revelation to you?

And why did you think the Seraphim didn’t slaughter them? Did you forget that it was precisely because the likes of Luffy, Zoro, Lucci & Kaku were keeping them busy? What do you think would happen if S-Hawk had a free shot at any of the rest?
Oh…that’s right! Robin & Kaku being so injured is testament to that. You also forgot already that Franky was petrified along with Usopp.