Questions & Mysteries The meaning of Death appearing to Zoro
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Why would you want that? Training in Hell .. If Zoro went to Hell aka died and came back then other characters in the future will do it too. Luffy might have died "maybe" but it won't matter his DF has revived him by beating his heart which triggered the "drums" and Nika came to be just like Enel when Wyper "killed him". Zoro has no such ability unless the Swords kept him alive "?".
I'm taking "The King of Hell" literally, here.
"Asura"
"Dead Man's Game"
The sheer number of times Zoro has been referred to as a Demon.
When Koby describes Zoro to Luffy, he calls him "a demon in human form."
"Enma is the king of Hell in Japanese-Buddhist myth, the judge of dead souls. He is the Japanese version of Yama, the king of hell found in sects of Buddhism across East Asia; Enma mostly derives from the Chinese-Buddhist Yánluó, who in turn is based on the Hindu (Vedic) god of death, also called Yama."
Kozuki Sukiyaki has described Enma as able to "cut through to the bottom of hell"
"Death" is most likely a representation of Enma coming to "test" Zoro in Hell.
We'll probably get a reveal for this when Zoro finally gets his lost ass over to Ryuma's damn grave.
https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Roronoa_Zoro/Abilities_and_Powers
https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Enma
I'm taking "The King of Hell" literally, here.
"Asura"
"Dead Man's Game"
The sheer number of times Zoro has been referred to as a Demon.
When Koby describes Zoro to Luffy, he calls him "a demon in human form."
"Enma is the king of Hell in Japanese-Buddhist myth, the judge of dead souls. He is the Japanese version of Yama, the king of hell found in sects of Buddhism across East Asia; Enma mostly derives from the Chinese-Buddhist Yánluó, who in turn is based on the Hindu (Vedic) god of death, also called Yama."
Kozuki Sukiyaki has described Enma as able to "cut through to the bottom of hell"
"Death" is most likely a representation of Enma coming to "test" Zoro in Hell.
We'll probably get a reveal for this when Zoro finally gets his lost ass over to Ryuma's damn grave.
https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Roronoa_Zoro/Abilities_and_Powers
https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Enma
Whats scary here is something actually happened in Thriller Bark with Cindry .. briefly came back..
And when Chopper was taking care of Zoro he never mentioned anything regarding Zoro's life status. So ... ? only time will tell.
How would you become the King of Hell? By becoming the strongest Demon in Hell. By beating every other Demon. I think Zoro trained with Ryuma and Oden in the timeskip, and kicked a bunch of demon ass to get stronger CoC.
I completely understand people being scared of the underworld gaining too much prominence in this series. But, as you've stated, it's definitely a big element of One Piece.
You had the devil summoners with Brook.
The Enma references.
Brooks already died, and is still alive, bless his heart... except he doesn't have a heart, YOHOHOHO
Then you have the spirit trees in Skypeia/Jaya. Tell me, what do you think about the parallels here? Noland destroyed the trees in Jaya, Big Mom destroyed the Spirit Tree in Onigashima. Coincidence?
The spirit trees of Jaya
The spirit tree of Onigashima/Wano
Artur's analysis of Chapter 990
I think Oden and friends are going to come back, somehow. Either for inspiration, or as some ghost army, Lord of the Rings Return of the King shit. Either way, Oda's doing something with these trees.
Hahaha, I love that you mentioned Cindry: her regaining consciousness is a bit part of my Zombie Kaido theory. Watching Kaido be forced to attack and attempt to kill Luffy/Joy Boy the man he was waiting for for decades, while still conscious as a Zombie would be so fucked up, perfect Blackbeard/Moria behavior.
It's so funny, I HATED MORIA during Thriller Bark, and now he's the character I'm most hyped for
:cheers:
I completely understand people being scared of the underworld gaining too much prominence in this series. But, as you've stated, it's definitely a big element of One Piece.
You had the devil summoners with Brook.
The Enma references.
Brooks already died, and is still alive, bless his heart... except he doesn't have a heart, YOHOHOHO
Then you have the spirit trees in Skypeia/Jaya. Tell me, what do you think about the parallels here? Noland destroyed the trees in Jaya, Big Mom destroyed the Spirit Tree in Onigashima. Coincidence?
The spirit trees of Jaya
The spirit tree of Onigashima/Wano
Artur's analysis of Chapter 990
I think Oden and friends are going to come back, somehow. Either for inspiration, or as some ghost army, Lord of the Rings Return of the King shit. Either way, Oda's doing something with these trees.
Hahaha, I love that you mentioned Cindry: her regaining consciousness is a bit part of my Zombie Kaido theory. Watching Kaido be forced to attack and attempt to kill Luffy/Joy Boy the man he was waiting for for decades, while still conscious as a Zombie would be so fucked up, perfect Blackbeard/Moria behavior.
It's so funny, I HATED MORIA during Thriller Bark, and now he's the character I'm most hyped for
:cheers:
How would you become the King of Hell? By becoming the strongest Demon in Hell. By beating every other Demon. I think Zoro trained with Ryuma and Oden in the timeskip, and kicked a bunch of demon ass to get stronger CoC.
I completely understand people being scared of the underworld gaining too much prominence in this series. But, as you've stated, it's definitely a big element of One Piece.
You had the devil summoners with Brook.
The Enma references.
Brooks already died, and is still alive, bless his heart... except he doesn't have a heart, YOHOHOHO
Then you have the spirit trees in Skypeia/Jaya. Tell me, what do you think about the parallels here? Noland destroyed the trees in Jaya, Big Mom destroyed the Spirit Tree in Onigashima. Coincidence?
The spirit trees of Jaya
The spirit tree of Onigashima/Wano
Artur's analysis of Chapter 990
I think Oden and friends are going to come back, somehow. Either for inspiration, or as some ghost army, Lord of the Rings Return of the King shit. Either way, Oda's doing something with these trees.
Hahaha, I love that you mentioned Cindry: her regaining consciousness is a bit part of my Zombie Kaido theory. Watching Kaido be forced to attack and attempt to kill Luffy/Joy Boy the man he was waiting for for decades, while still conscious as a Zombie would be so fucked up, perfect Blackbeard/Moria behavior.
It's so funny, I HATED MORIA during Thriller Bark, and now he's the character I'm most hyped for
:cheers:
I completely understand people being scared of the underworld gaining too much prominence in this series. But, as you've stated, it's definitely a big element of One Piece.
You had the devil summoners with Brook.
The Enma references.
Brooks already died, and is still alive, bless his heart... except he doesn't have a heart, YOHOHOHO
Then you have the spirit trees in Skypeia/Jaya. Tell me, what do you think about the parallels here? Noland destroyed the trees in Jaya, Big Mom destroyed the Spirit Tree in Onigashima. Coincidence?
The spirit trees of Jaya
The spirit tree of Onigashima/Wano
Artur's analysis of Chapter 990
I think Oden and friends are going to come back, somehow. Either for inspiration, or as some ghost army, Lord of the Rings Return of the King shit. Either way, Oda's doing something with these trees.
Hahaha, I love that you mentioned Cindry: her regaining consciousness is a bit part of my Zombie Kaido theory. Watching Kaido be forced to attack and attempt to kill Luffy/Joy Boy the man he was waiting for for decades, while still conscious as a Zombie would be so fucked up, perfect Blackbeard/Moria behavior.
It's so funny, I HATED MORIA during Thriller Bark, and now he's the character I'm most hyped for
:cheers:
Zoro's whole character could be based on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saṃsāra_(Buddhism) But the presence of Hell demons and all of that i see it as a symbolism just like How Kaido and Big Mom attacks are named after deities and gods but only act as a symbolism. As in these characters can symbolize these presence of above all as gods or as demons. The same for Zoro's moves and attacks do show illusions and sometimes oda shows what "animal or demon spirit" Zoro takes form in his attacks. If the grim reaper is something related to his swords which now we know it carries the will/spirit of the previous owners. Maybe the swords wanted to punish Zoro?
I don't know anymore lol lets see what Oda throws at us later.
What happened with Cindry remains a mystery.
I need to re-read your posts... I'm going to read the series through soon, too. One Piece makes me think harder than anything else, and actually inspires me to learn, which is... I just need inspiration in my life right now.
Honestly? Big Mom and Kaido are kind of like gods (especially with Kaido's Wisdom King epithet). To Wano, Kaido was honestly an evil god.
Enma is crazy, so it wouldn't surprise me if it's trying to punish Zoro, interesting point. I almost feel like Enma is going, "Hey, great job beating that King guy. My old swordsman, Oden, wants to give you some tips, you crazy kid."
Fuck. Now you've convinced me I need to research Buddhism to gain a greater understanding of One Piece. Here I come, enlightment, get ready!
Honestly? Big Mom and Kaido are kind of like gods (especially with Kaido's Wisdom King epithet). To Wano, Kaido was honestly an evil god.
Enma is crazy, so it wouldn't surprise me if it's trying to punish Zoro, interesting point. I almost feel like Enma is going, "Hey, great job beating that King guy. My old swordsman, Oden, wants to give you some tips, you crazy kid."
Fuck. Now you've convinced me I need to research Buddhism to gain a greater understanding of One Piece. Here I come, enlightment, get ready!
This arc was a joke wasn't it 
I don't know everything that's going to happen in One Piece, no one does besides Oda. I just try to analyze his writing. One Piece made me want to be a better person, and love people. Oda made me want to live, so I'm willing to put my faith in Oda, and wait until the series is over to judge One Piece fully.
Zoro is going to get his. Oda just went on break, to make sure Zoro Kills Kaido looks as badass as possible.
FINALBETA! SAY YOU WANT TO ZKK! I have faith in Oda. Marineford had a lot of negative reaction when it happened. Now, Marineford is viewed as an amazing arc.
Do you actually think ZKK is over? Don't be afraid to post cringe opinions on the internet. I know you still believe in ZKK. I'm going down with the ship, how about you? Let's keep believing until this damn mosshead fucking kills Kaido.
