The new chapter proves that Kizaru could have soloed Big Mom + Kaido

#21
Is this really the best Ladmiral wankers have to offer
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What don't you understand about manga being read from right to left?

The panel of Kizaru kicking is first, the panel of Hawkins following the kick with his eyes is second and the panel of the impact is last, it's not complicated.

Kizaru kicks > Hawkin's perceives and follows it > Hawkins is hit by the kick

Kizaru's speed is garbage and that databook saying you need top tier CoO to fight him is a mistranslation
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what dont you understand about the fact that Oda established in One Piece Vivre Card Databook Vol. 3 that only those who are very good with observation haki can spot him
https://thelibraryofohara.com/2018/11/07/vivre-card-databook-vol-3-all-the-new-information/

unless you are arguing that pre timeskip hawkins was already very good with observation haki you have no point
 

Pantheos

Heavy Metal
#22
you guys are so simple minded it's insane

Russia could just Nuke ukraine why aren't they doing it and why are they not gonna do it?
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1. Because Ukraine is pretty close to russia. Nuke -> Russia hit too, cause of the radiation
2. A Nuke would make Ukraine completely useless as territory (Radiation), russia wants the ground.
3. NWC
4. Nuking would immediately cause China and America to interfer
And some more good reason.

But beside that, you could tell me one simple reason why they wouldnt erase the strongest pirates, if they could so easily.

And your "simple minded" is overread once now, but i dont accept this kind of talking further.
 
#23
1. Because Ukraine is pretty close to russia. Nuke -> Russia hit too, cause of the radiation
2. A Nuke would make Ukraine completely useless as territory (Radiation), russia wants the ground.
3. NWC
4. Nuking would immediately cause China and America to interfer
And some more good reason.

But beside that, you could tell me one simple reason why they wouldnt erase the strongest pirates, if they could so easily.

And your "simple minded" is overread once now, but i dont accept this kind of talking further.
bro you just listed all the reasons for why the marines dont simply send the admirals to wipe out the yonko.... there is a lot more as well.
Why do you think i made the ukraine example in the first place you just answered your own question.
 
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Pantheos

Heavy Metal
#25
bro you just listed all the reasons for why the marines dont simply send the admirals to wipe out the yonko....
Why do you think i made the ukraine example in the first place you just answered your own question.
What are you even talking about?
The admirals dont cause something like radiation. They dont have some contracts like the NWC. They dont necessarely destroy thousands of km² when fight and they dont have some "America" or "China" going for their head when the Yonkos fall. So... how am i answering my own question?
 
#26
What are you even talking about?
The admirals dont cause something like radiation. They dont have some contracts like the NWC. They dont necessarely destroy thousands of km² when fight and they dont have some "America" or "China" going for their head when the Yonkos fall. So... how am i answering my own question?
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holy shit man its hard not to call you simple minded...

yes the admirals so far dont have radiation but its not about the radiation....
The admirals are walking natural disasters, they are weapons of mass destruction.
Akainu and Aokiji made Punk Hazard uninhabitable, it doesnt matter whether its uninhabitable due to radiation or because its a magma/ice filled wasteland.

Also we dont even know what powers Greenbull has yet, he could very well turn out to have a radiation fruit.

People in one piece live on islands...
One Piece islands are not continental big so no reason to bring up the scale of a nuke to compare it to anyways...
The Admirals were already shown to affect entire islands with their powers which means they can affect the entire population of said islands.

When the Marines attack certain members of the yonko then other yonko would take their chance to strike at either other yonko or key points in the world that are important to world government or the marines.
So yes they have America or China going for their head, cause the yonko are part of the world powers having huge territories and battle fleets.

? how do you know they dont have contracts ?????????
Marines work for the world government...
CP0 who work for the WG made deals with Wano/Kaido.
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That is @Steven...
Steven is a retarded yonko wanker like the rest of you, he has no brain.
This is proven by him translating the text into "With an effective ability over movement and evasion, only a skilled Haki user can stop someone in a single move."
That translation is dogshit... google translate could do a better job.
I will believe the guy who can actually translate japanese well and not steven.
 
#28
Steven is a retarded yonko wanker like the rest of you, he has no brain.
This is proven by him translating the text into "With an effective ability over movement and evasion, only a skilled Haki user can stop someone in a single move."
That translation is dogshit... google translate could do a better job.
I will believe the guy who can actually translate japanese well and not steven.
Steven posted the raw and explained why it says what it says, Artur didn't and has been wrong many times.

Kizaru is nowhere near the fastest in the verse, get over it.
 
#31
Keep being delusional

Kaido or Big Mom high diff Kizaru at most and that's extremely generous
steven's explanation is illogical anyways
The statement talks about movement and evasion so if you were capable of thinking logically CoA could never even matter in that context.

you still have no point you are literally arguieng against Oda's words, the only one who is delusional here is you mate
 

Pantheos

Heavy Metal
#33
So, your arguments:

1. Admirals are natural desasters, similar destruction like nukes:
- So, just go for WCI, where the main island of Linlin is only her and her family, no casualities, or simply attack them on sea. Linlin was straight up at the sea for quiet some time for her way to Kaido. Or go for Onigashima, a single island only filled with pirates, no casualities again. Or catch him on the sea again. But they dont. And its not like KIzaru cared for casualities in SA.

2. "We dont know Greenbulls power yet, it could be radiation fruit"
- So they have an admiral which is simply unusable in any case, cause he would always cause radiation. Doesnt seem like very smart of the marines/ world government.

3. Other Yonkos would go for their head
- No. If one of 3 Admirals is able to take out 2 Yonko solo, there would be only 2 Yonko left. So it would be 2 rest admirals + akainu to take down 2 Yonko. Or do you want to tell me these 3 people arent able to do what Kizaru is able to?

4. Contracts like NWC
- You seriously want to tell me Marine Admirals and High ranked pirates have some "no aggression" contracts, which totaly contradicts the idea of bounties and wanted posters, or the simply whole existence of marines. You have an idea whats the job of the marines?

Instead of some half ass insults like calling me simple minded, try to use some real arguments, since your insults just show your insecurities and that you are unable to have a real discussions aka. lack of arguments.
 
#35
So, your arguments:

1. Admirals are natural desasters, similar destruction like nukes:
- So, just go for WCI, where the main island of Linlin is only her and her family, no casualities, or simply attack them on sea. Linlin was straight up at the sea for quiet some time for her way to Kaido. Or go for Onigashima, a single island only filled with pirates, no casualities again. Or catch him on the sea again. But they dont. And its not like KIzaru cared for casualities in SA.

2. "We dont know Greenbulls power yet, it could be radiation fruit"
- So they have an admiral which is simply unusable in any case, cause he would always cause radiation. Doesnt seem like very smart of the marines/ world government.

3. Other Yonkos would go for their head
- No. If one of 3 Admirals is able to take out 2 Yonko solo, there would be only 2 Yonko left. So it would be 2 rest admirals + akainu to take down 2 Yonko. Or do you want to tell me these 3 people arent able to do what Kizaru is able to?

4. Contracts like NWC
- You seriously want to tell me Marine Admirals and High ranked pirates have some "no aggression" contracts, which totaly contradicts the idea of bounties and wanted posters, or the simply whole existence of marines. You have an idea whats the job of the marines?

Instead of some half ass insults like calling me simple minded, try to use some real arguments, since your insults just show your insecurities and that you are unable to have a real discussions aka. lack of arguments.
1. no casualties? "it's only her family" lmfao bro...
You expect the marines to commit mass murder and kill everybody who is part of her family or allied to her just because she is a pirate with a pirate crew...
You basically expect the marines to commit war crimes and wipe the whole island off the map but also you still say there would be "no casualties"....
i dont even know what to say to that man
Kizaru definitely cared for casualties in SA he stopped doing big attacks after he realized the destruction he caused with the tree, Oda literally did that to show you how destructive he is and at the same time have a reason why he has to hold back.

2. could be used for radical means and would fit Akainu's character to get himself an admiral who can radiate an entire island but like i said we dont know that yet...

3. Thats not how story writing works though...
The characters within the story dont know who can beat who... why do i even have to explain that?
The Admirals dont know that they can easily wipe out the yonko, some Admirals might believe they can but some yonko also might believe they can defeat Admirals...
For example: Aokiji believed he could defeat Akainu, Shiki believed he can beat Sengoku and Garp etc...
Some characters might think they are stronger than others, doesnt mean thats the case.
The manga viewers have the best general idea about who is stronger than who cause we have that comparison based on battles and fights we have seen.

If the marines would attack the yonko in the story then they would do it with all of their forces in order to guarantee a crushing and overwhelming victory with the least casualties possible.

4. The yonko are part of the 3 great powers alongside the Navy HQ and the shichibukai.
The yonko are not normal pirate crews, they have a lot of territories and influence in the world, especially the new world.
The marines already have contracts with pirates like the shichibukai in order to counterbalance the influence and power that the yonko hold within the new world.
And we already saw that the WG made deals with Wano which was under a yonko's rule.

Also the yonko are not really bad for the world/marines as long as they reside on their islands they provide a lot of safety for it.
The marines already have to take care of another part of the world as well, having the yonko stop upcoming pirates in the new world is greatly beneficial for them as well.
Its only a problem when the yonko start to make moves or ally with each other.
 
#37
Using @scoobie3 logic Sabo nerfed himself from causing destruction in Mariejois to loyalties, slaves there, otherwise he would put Ryokugyu and Fuji in a bag.
that's not a logical conclusion at all and therefore wouldnt be following my logic either

It's definitely possible that sabo held back in mariejois i dont know, but that doesnt conclude to him bodybag fuji and ryo not even in a million years.
The revs came in superior numbers.
Fuji and Ryo were there to protect the place, so they were also holding back.
At the end it seems Fuji and Ryo won the encounter so even if Sabo and the other Revs held back so did the admirals and the admirals still won despite fighting against more people.
Therefore logically the outcome wouldnt change if both parties went all out.
 
#38
Using @scoobie3 logic Sabo nerfed himself from causing destruction in Mariejois to loyalties, slaves there, otherwise he would put Ryokugyu and Fuji in a bag.
Fisher tiger burned mariejois to free the slaves. So sabo can use full power to create destruction of mariejois to free the slaves. So sabo have no reason to hold back his power.
 
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#39
That is @Steven...
Steven is a retarded yonko wanker like the rest of you, he has no brain.
This is proven by him translating the text into "With an effective ability over movement and evasion, only a skilled Haki user can stop someone in a single move."
That translation is dogshit... google translate could do a better job.
I will believe the guy who can actually translate japanese well and not steven.
I used the raws

Not my problem it does not fit your agenda

Either of the 2 high-diffs Kizaru
 
#40
Bottom right of the last panel Kaido says "Where are these punches coming from" literally proving that he has dogshit CoO and can't even see let alone react to Luffy's snakeman form.

If Kaido can't even see that how do you expect him to fight Kizaru who is literally the fastest man in the entire manga?

Kizaru would outspeed both Big Mom and Kaido easily and bodybag them even in a 1v2.


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