Future Events The new Vivre cards: main takeaway

[Warine]

I thing 2 things stand out the most in these new batches, first Mihawk seemingly unknown origin and second the kuzan's bounty blue balling.

For mihawk it seems rather obvious, where he comes from will take a part in the story. I don't want to go too far but I feel like dracule nerona sounds more and more like a safe bet.

For Kuzan it's a little bit more complicated, I can think of 2 potential outcomes, either he got a bigger bounty than Blackbeard because let's face it, why would they keep it in the oven if it's just another one above 3 billions. The second outcome would be that he is keeping it for a big batch release in the manga (Shanks, BB, SH and CG).

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

Mihawk's origins being unknown is interesting.

We know he has history with the marines, and Zoro described him as inhuman... maybe he was a result of a previous experiment by the Marines/WG scientists? Or he's a CD. Though two CDs in the original version of the 7 warlords is repetitive imo

I believe Kuzan will get a bounty of around 3.5-4.0 bil in the manga, after Teach and Shanks get bounty raises that puts them somewhere around 4.1-4.9 ish

 

[Warine]

Mihawk's origins being unknown is interesting.

We know he has history with the marines, and Zoro described him as inhuman... maybe he was a result of a previous experiment by the Marines/WG scientists? Or he's a CD. Though two CDs in the original version of the 7 warlords is repetitive imo

I believe Kuzan will get a bounty of around 3.5-4.0 bil in the manga, after Teach and Shanks get bounty raises that puts them somewhere around 4.1-4.9 ish

Cd are the new Targaryen, also you have to consider we already have the Seraphims, that would make s-hawk the experiment of an experiment

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

Cd are the new Targaryen, also you have to consider we already have the Seraphims, that would make s-hawk the experiment of an experiment

Vegapunk made someone with CD blood, a fishman, and whatever the hell Moriah is a Seraphim, I doubt Oda would draw the line at having Vegapunk make an experiment of an experiment.

fair point about CDs being everywhere. it would be pretty in character for Oda to make the two most notable swordsman both secret CDs

 

[Warine]

Vegapunk made someone with CD blood, a fishman, and whatever the hell Moriah is a Seraphim, I doubt Oda would draw the line at having Vegapunk make an experiment of an experiment.

fair point about CDs being everywhere. it would be pretty in character for Oda to make the two most notable swordsman both secret CDs

You talked about 2 secrets cd in the warlords being too redundant but if mihawk was the result of an experiment, that would make 3 science related plotline around the warlord hence why I don't think it's weird for mihawk to be a cd. We re talking about royalty here also not just an entry level cd like doflamingo. With buggy being rocks son, that would mean both the highest cd's nobility and pirate nobility formed an alliance together.

 

[grey matter]

I really hope Loda doesn't fumble on Mihawk

 

[kekaro]

The only take away after the vivre cards is that they are merch

seemingly unknown origin

Am i drunk again or didn't we get a sbs already that tied his backstory clearly to the marines in a definitive matter? So far infact that Mihawk acts the way he does till this day because of that incident.
He is not tied to cd at all, that actually deconfirms it

Also Kuzans bounty seems to more tied to whats going with blackbeard, It is same reason why we didn't get Lafittes DF Box but we did the others. Probably has specific function in the story somewhere

 

[Warine]

The only take away after the vivre cards is that they are merch

Am i drunk again or didn't we get a sbs already that tied his backstory clearly to the marines in a definitive matter? So far infact that Mihawk acts the way he does till this day because of that incident.
He is not tied to cd at all, that actually deconfirms it

Also Kuzans bounty seems to more tied to whats going with blackbeard, It is same reason why we didn't get Lafittes DF Box but we did the others. Probably has specific function in the story somewhere

His place of birth got nothing to do with the marines, how do you get to these kind of conclusions, and in what way would Kuzan's bounty have a specific function in the story, I know it pains you but you got to actually look at the facts for what they are.

 

[kekaro]

His place of birth got nothing to do with the marines,

So Imus brother/cousin/hermano is super important in the story but his whole background is defined by the marines?
Ok

n what way would Kuzan's bounty have a specific function in the story, I know it pains you but you got to actually look at the facts for what they are.

Of course Kuzan bounty might relevant for the story? He could have a special bounty like loki, he could have a only alive bounty like sanji hinting Akainu pulled some string and is still sentimental, he could have such a high or low value we would reevaluate his position and partnership with BB. And that's only stuff that already happened in the story
Actual lmao

but you got to actually look at the facts for what they are.

extremely ironic

 

[Warine]

So Imus brother/cousin/hermano is super important in the story but his whole background is defined by the marines?
Ok

Of course Kuzan bounty might relevant for the story? He could have a special bounty like loki, he could have a only alive bounty like sanji hinting Akainu pulled some string and is still sentimental, he could have such a high or low value we would reevaluate his position and partnership with BB. And that's only stuff that already happened in the story
Actual lmao


extremely ironic

His whole background is not defined by the marines did you actually read the sbs, we know he got a grudge against the marines and he got betrayed at some point, how you come to the conclusion that his place of birth has anything to do with the Marine.

Do you actually hear yourself wtf are you even talking about, how could this ever happen, Kuzan is a pirate and the whole world knows it, akainu do not have that kind of power, if you re stretching out the realm of possibilities I could also say blackbeard could fell into the sea next chapter and die. Like I said you re arguing against everything I wrote because zoro lives in your head rent free and you can't look at the facts for what they are.

 

[kekaro]

His whole background is not defined by the marines did you actually read the sbs, we know he got a grudge against the marines and he got betrayed at some point, how you come to the conclusion that his place of birth has anything to do with the Marine.

Do you actually hear yourself wtf are you even talking about, how could this ever happen, Kuzan is a pirate and the whole world knows it, akainu do not have that kind of power, if you re stretching out the realm of possibilities I could also say blackbeard could fell into the sea next chapter and die. Like I said you re arguing against everything I wrote because zoro lives in your head rent free and you can't look at the facts for what they are.

Lets read it together blud as you seem to have difficulties

"Mihawk holds a grudge against the marines (not the WG) in the past (his background and the only we have, besides Marine Hunter, which also Mentions Marines and links his Marine title together)"
"He doesn't trust people (because of the betrayal, which is the only characterization we got of him through crocodile)"
"Being a member of the seven warlods means he wont be chased by the MARINES (his whole title is linked to marines, man I seem to recognize a pattern here)"
"Now that position has vanished, so the idea is now to hide! (So even when his new position is linked to his old purpose, "nothing to do with the marines")"


So now we have this sbs
vs your high IQ interpretation that the shusheia merchandise cards have no info on mihawk (like on dozens other characters) because "le nerona"
And this is a "fact" according to you
like I said the first time
"ok"

Do you actually hear yourself wtf are you even talking about, how could this ever happen, Kuzan is a pirate and the whole world knows it, akainu do not have that kind of power,

As opposed to sanji, who was not a pirate, and his dad was about to kicked from the reverie and not even invited to the reverie because he was publicly doing business with yonko. Showed me. And ignored all the other possibilities too like a fact lord

Like I said you re arguing against everything I wrote because zoro lives in your head rent free and you can't look at the facts for what they are.

You bringing up your drawn idolo unpromoted as his whole purpose was a uterus extension of mihawk says anything that is to be said about you, that character, and this thread

 

[Warine]

Lets read it together blud as you seem to have difficulties

"Mihawk holds a grudge against the marines (not the WG) in the past (his background and the only we have, besides Marine Hunter, which also Mentions Marines and links his Marine title together)"
"He doesn't trust people (because of the betrayal, which is the only characterization we got of him through crocodile)"
"Being a member of the seven warlods means he wont be chased by the MARINES (his whole title is linked to marines, man I seem to recognize a pattern here)"
"Now that position has vanished, so the idea is now to hide! (So even when his new position is linked to his old purpose, nothing to do with the marines)"


So now we have this sbs
vs your high IQ interpretation that the shusheia merchandise cards have no info on mihawk (like on dozens other characters) because "le nerona"
And this is a "fact" according to you
like I said the first time
"ok"



As opposed to sanji, who was not a pirate, and his dad was about to kicked from the reverie and not even invited to the reverie because he was publicly doing business with yonko. Showed me. And ignored all the other possibilities too like a fact lord

You bringing up your drawn idolo unpromoted as his whole purpose was a uterus extension of mihawk says anything that is to be said about you, that character, and this thread

Damn you really thought this one out don't you? you mean to tell me mihawk is the marine hunter like zoro is the pirate hunter? No way but is it zoro's definitive character trait, nope.

I guess mihawk a pirate also got betrayed by the marines is that right? Because everything in his character resolve around the marine. Shanks was probably a marine hence why he fought him to.

And you mean to tell me the character who wants a quiet life doesn't actually wants to be chased by the marines damn that's actually genius, surely this comes from the fact all his character resolve around the marines as he is the world strongest marine hater.

Now this part take the cake I think because goddamn you did show your superior intellect here, buddy if they didn't know where he was from they could have... I don't know maybe ASK IT YOU STUPID FUCK, LIKE THEY DID FOR ALL THE OTHER FUCKING HUNDREDS OF VIVRE CARD, DID YOU THINK THEY MAGICALLY FILLED THEMSELVES? IF IT'S UNKNOWN IT'S BECAUSE ODA DOESN'T WANT TO SHARE IT AND IF IT DIDN'T MATTER HE WOULD HAVE SIMPLY DID LIKE FOR ALL THE HUNDREDS OF OTHER CHARACTERS. But hey it's marine related baby, his birth is marine related just like his whole character.

You got it right, shueisha is selling some stuff which are filled with unknown everywhere oh my god, you re so fucking smart.

I won't even entertain what follows because let's be real it's not even worth it, this is actually pitiful

 

[kekaro]

Damn you really thought this one out don't you? you mean to tell me mihawk is the marine hunter like zoro is the pirate hunter? No way but is it zoro's definitive character trait, nope.

I guess mihawk a pirate also got betrayed by the marines is that right? Because everything in his character resolve around the marine. Shanks was probably a marine hence why he fought him to.

And you mean to tell me the character who wants a quiet life doesn't actually wants to be chased by the marines damn that's actually genius, surely this comes from the fact all his character resolve around the marines as he is the world strongest marine hater.

Now this part take the cake I think because goddamn you did show your superior intellect here, buddy if they didn't know where he was from they could have... I don't know maybe ASK IT YOU STUPID FUCK, LIKE THEY DID FOR ALL THE OTHER FUCKING HUNDREDS OF VIVRE CARD, DID YOU THINK THEY MAGICALLY FILLED THEMSELVES? IF IT'S UNKNOWN IT'S BECAUSE ODA DOESN'T WANT TO SHARE IT AND IF IT DIDN'T MATTER HE WOULD HAVE SIMPLY DID LIKE FOR ALL THE HUNDREDS OF OTHER CHARACTERS. But hey it's marine related baby, his birth is marine related just like his whole character.

You got it right, shueisha is selling some stuff which are filled with unknown everywhere oh my god, you re so fucking smart.

I won't even entertain what follows because let's be real it's not even worth it, this is actually pitiful

You putting damn in every second sentence doesn't mean it isn't exactly that, yes
But have it your way we can revisit this thread like all the intellectual giant threads in a couple of years and you can flaunt how right you were, after all its a "fact" and "pretty obvious", like always

Gotta say incredible self awareness tho

 

[Rukusho]

Oda is playing it smart with Mihawk .. don't reveal too much until it's his time to shine -- otherwise he might run into the same issue he came across with Crocodile.

I have high faith in Mihawk he won't disappoint.

 

[Warine]

You putting damn in every second sentence doesn't mean it isn't exactly that, yes
But have it your way we can revisit this thread like all the intellectual giant threads in a couple of years and you can flaunt how right you were, after all its a "fact" and "pretty obvious", like always

Gotta say incredible self awareness tho

Damn wait why didn't you clap back damn, where is le part when you show me how wrong and stupid I am damn , what happened damn?

Don't you have another "le shueisha doesn't know" maybe?

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

We re talking about royalty here also not just an entry level cd like doflamingo

we have no idea if any "royal CDs" exist. It seems like the CD's are equal with the exceptions of the Gorosei and the Holy Knights. If Mihawk is a CD, and a Nerona, he and his parents probably possessed equal status to Doffy and his immediate family, unless they were Holy Knights.

doubt he's a CD anyway. His backstory involves the marines in some form, but apparently the average OP reader can't wrap their head around the fact.

With buggy being rocks son,

that's complete and total headcanon lol

Buggy actually being a D and "special" in some way would ruin his character. so knowing Oda he will.

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I really hope Loda doesn't fumble on Mihawk

he already did by making him a yonko crew member.

he should have stayed a lone wolf