Speculations The Next Big Fight we will see before or during the Early Elbaf Arc will be...

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#21
Didn't Shanks and Blackbeard fight before? Is that why Shanks has his scar?

In my understanding of the phrase, "And finally, at last it'll happen," Oda will "finally" resolve the debate between the two by having them fight again, which will be their "final showdown." When Oda says, "it may lead to unexpected results," he might be hinting that the "future" of the Cross Guild will be something fans won’t expect, based on the aftermath of Shanks and Mihawk's fight.

I don’t think a Red-Haired Pirates vs. Blackbeard Pirates battle will happen soon. You mentioned that Blackbeard would win if they fought now, but I disagree. There are still many things we don’t know about Shanks compared to Blackbeard, and Shanks is a more important character. Additionally, Blackbeard had difficulties fighting Law, so suggesting he could defeat Shanks—especially after Shanks easily defeated Eustass Kid—seems unlikely. Blackbeard would need a significant upgrade in strength and power to fight Shanks on equal terms. And if you think Blackbeard would cheat in their fight, I don’t believe that will happen. Shanks has fought Blackbeard before and is already aware of his strategies and schemes. If Blackbeard were to cheat, it would likely be in a fight with Luffy or Buggy, where they wouldn’t yet know his real power.
Yeah sure, Oda created the CG only to have them lose immediately.

The fuck is wrong with you guys Mihawk wont lose to anyone else. Its been set to fight Zoro since 3 fucking decades ago, accept it and stop the cope.
 
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#22
zoro vs mihawk..mark my words..
Not yet. If they fight again, it will be their final battle, and Zoro's sword will have already turned black by that time. So, it will happen after the Elbaf Arc.
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Yeah sure, Oda created the CG only to have them lose immediately.

The fuck is wrong with you guys Mihawk wont lose to anyone else. Its been set to fight Zoro since 3 fucking decades ago, accept it and stop the cope.
Did Oda specifically state in the manga that Mihawk will not be defeated before his final fight with Zoro? Is Mihawk really confirmed as Zoro’s ultimate opponent? You and his stans seem to be the only ones hyping Mihawk and expecting him to remain undefeated before his fight with Zoro.

Additionally, if the Cross Guild were to lose in their conflict with the Red-Haired Pirates, would their importance in the story diminish? No, it wouldn’t. That’s why I said, "the future of the Cross Guild will be something fans won’t expect, based on the aftermath of Shanks and Mihawk's fight."
 
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#23
Not yet. If they fight again, it will be their final battle, and Zoro's sword will have already turned black by that time. So, it will happen after the Elbaf Arc.
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Did Oda specifically state in the manga that Mihawk will not be defeated before his final fight with Zoro? Is Mihawk really confirmed as Zoro’s ultimate opponent? You and his stans seem to be the only ones hyping Mihawk and expecting him to remain undefeated before his fight with Zoro.

Additionally, if the Cross Guild were to lose in their conflict with the Red-Haired Pirates, would their importance in the story diminish? No, it wouldn’t. That’s why I said, "the future of the Cross Guild will be something fans won’t expect, based on the aftermath of Shanks and Mihawk's fight."
Nihawk is man wit teh burn scar..
 
#26
We already know that Kid is dumb but why would he fight against the guy who saved and helped him in Wano ?

Now that i think about it Oda had almost every Yonko take a shit on Kid except Luffy.
Maybe you are right and Oda will let them "fight" to embarrass him once again.

They will fight because of shanks and the giants...How do you think Kidd is going to react when he sees luffy with Dorry and Broggy? The one responsible for destroying his ship named "Victoria Punk"....And how do you think Kidd will react when he learns of Luffy's relationship with Shanks?

Kidd has been targeting shanks since day 1...theres a reason why oda hasn't allowed them to have direct dialogue..

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...l-return-and-will-fight-luffy-at-elbaf.58033/

You want to bet on this?

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You are not misunderstanding anything. Those three will be fighting each other in Elbaf.
Law is never fighting luffy lol...Kidd on the other hand will fight anyone he disagrees with, luffy included..You really think law would have fought kaido or shanks in either of those situations lol? There are two characters that would, luffy/kidd.

Akainu and Imu, the only ones left?
The only ones that have hype remaining...yes..

Gorosei hype is over?
After they got clowned on in egghead, absolutely.

No hype for the Holy Knights
If they're weaker than the gorosei/yonko, why would there be any hype?

And you’re telling me Kid is more hype than these characters? Don’t be biased. If you ask many One Piece fans who they are looking forward to seeing fight in future chapters, Kid will not be on their list.
Luffy vs Kidd or Kidd vs Shanks rd3, is far more hype than any of those fights. And sure, these are the same fans that think g5 is good writing lol. And regardless, the character has an agenda against him from many fans. This very forum, zorogen, is a great example lol.
 
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They will fight because of shanks and the giants...How do you think Kidd is going to react when he sees luffy with Dorry and Broggy? The one responsible for destroying his ship named "Victoria Punk"....And how do you think Kidd will react when he learns of Luffy's relationship with Shanks?

Kidd has been targeting shanks since day 1...theres a reason why oda hasn't allowed them to have direct dialogue..

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...l-return-and-will-fight-luffy-at-elbaf.58033/

You want to bet on this?

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Law is never fighting luffy lol...Kidd on the other hand will fight anyone he disagrees with, luffy included..You really think law would have fought kaido or shanks in either of those situations lol? There are two characters that would, luffy/kidd.



The only ones that have hype remaining...yes..


After they got clowned on in egghead, absolutely.


If they're weaker than the gorosei/yonko, why would there be any hype?



Luffy vs Kidd or Kidd vs Shanks rd3, is far more hype than any of those fights. And sure, these are the same fans that think g5 is good writing lol. And regardless, the character has an agenda against him from many fans. This very forum, zorogen, is a great example lol.
Didn’t Law say that "next time the three of them met, they would be enemies" at the end of Wano (Chapter 1057)?

Anyway, I understand that you like Kidd, but just don’t expect too much from him. He will probably play an important role in the future, but it might not be exactly as you think (like defeating major characters such as Luffy, Shanks, Akainu, Dragon, etc in the endgame). Regarding "hype," his hype has already diminished since he was one-shotted. Fans might get excited about his fight against Luffy and Law, but if he were to be defeated again, only his most dedicated fans might still remain enthusiastic about his scenes. Lastly, regarding the Gorosei and Holy Knights, many fans are still excited to see them fight with their full power. Even if the Holy Knights are on the same level as Yonko Commanders, fans are eager to see how they perform in battle.
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It's not too early. Shanks isn't supposed to be a proper antagonist the way Big Mom and Kaido were. Before Luffy can move on to Akainu, Blackbeard, and Imu, they have to settle things.
We don’t yet fully know Shanks’ "plan" or his intentions. In my view, he is likely the most dangerous among them because there’s so much we don’t know about him. Although the story consistently portrays Shanks as a good pirate, it’s the mystery surrounding his activities and his connections with "key characters" in One Piece that make him seem particularly dangerous to me.
 
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#29
Rhp vs bbp
Shanks vs teach... shanks dies here
or
Rhp vs shp
Luffy vs shanks .... not a fight to the death. Maybe teach will arrive after the fight to kill shanks and steal the rpg from the exausted crews

Shanks vs teach is my main bet

I don't see others valid options right now
 
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#30
Rhp vs bbp
Shanks vs teach... shanks dies here
or
Rhp vs shp
Luffy vs shanks .... not a fight to the death. Maybe teach will arrive after the fight to kill shanks and steal the rpg from the exausted crews

Shanks vs teach is my main bet

I don't see others valid options right now
Typical prediction of Shanks hater😮‍💨.
 
#31
Didn’t Law say that "next time the three of them met, they would be enemies" at the end of Wano (Chapter 1057)?
If you haven't noticed, the interactions between law/luffy and kidd/luffy are very different. Law doesn't even have the same goal as Luffy/Kidd. There's no reason why he would fight either of them.

Anyway, I understand that you like Kidd, but just don’t expect too much from him. He will probably play an important role in the future, but it might not be exactly as you think (like defeating major characters such as Luffy, Shanks, Akainu, Dragon, etc in the endgame). Regarding "hype," his hype has already diminished since he was one-shotted. Fans might get excited about his fight against Luffy and Law, but if he were to be defeated again, only his most dedicated fans might still remain enthusiastic about his scenes. Lastly, regarding the Gorosei and Holy Knights, many fans are still excited to see them fight with their full power. Even if the Holy Knights are on the same level as Yonko Commanders, fans are eager to see how they perform in battle.
And regarding this, i guess its a matter of preference. But I believe kidd will be the one to take down Shanks. When Kidd returns, shanks will become his focus.
 
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#35
Yes he did almost 30 years ago, thats why newcomers should stfu and read carefully.

Is your evidence just a dialogue from Mihawk?

Just because Mihawk says something doesn’t mean it’s explicitly stated by Oda. Characters can make promises or statements, but they might still be defeated later. For example, Zoro promised Luffy he wouldn’t be defeated before his future fight with Mihawk, yet he lost several times. You can’t use that as evidence to claim it reflects Oda’s intention, as it’s a different matter. Show me evidence from an SBS where Oda explicitly states something like that, or provide a quote from a narrator’s dialogue in the manga, and I’ll be willing to admit that I’m wrong.

And by the way, don’t call me a newcomer—I’ve been a member here longer than you and have read the One Piece manga twice.
 
#36
Is your evidence just a dialogue from Mihawk?

Just because Mihawk says something doesn’t mean it’s explicitly stated by Oda. Characters can make promises or statements, but they might still be defeated later. For example, Zoro promised Luffy he wouldn’t be defeated before his future fight with Mihawk, yet he lost several times. You can’t use that as evidence to claim it reflects Oda’s intention, as it’s a different matter. Show me evidence from an SBS where Oda explicitly states something like that, or provide a quote from a narrator’s dialogue in the manga, and I’ll be willing to admit that I’m wrong.

And by the way, don’t call me a newcomer—I’ve been a member here longer than you and have read the One Piece manga twice.
No dumb fuck the evidence is that Mihawk's monologue was 30 years ago but you are among the people who refuse to accept that he aint go down to anyone but Zoro.
Janitor wont beat him, bald gorosei wont beat him, blind luigi wont beat him, no one else will beat him. It's Zoro fight.

Oh you are here longer than me, that's cute. Now go check APforums and you can find my account since 2006.
 
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No dumb fuck the evidence is that Mihawk's monologue was 30 years ago but you are among the people who refuse to accept that he aint go down to anyone but Zoro.
Janitor wont beat him, bald gorosei wont beat him, blind luigi wont beat him, no one else will beat him. It's Zoro fight.

Oh you are here longer than me, that's cute. Now go check APforums and you can find my account since 2006.
There's no benefit in continuing this argument with you if you can’t comprehend something as straightforward as this. Well, let's see if you can still defend your argument when the time comes and he is defeated before his fight with Zoro.
 
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There's no benefit in continuing this argument with you if you can’t comprehend something as straightforward as this. Well, let's see if you can still defend your argument when the time comes and he is defeated before his fight with Zoro.
Yeap thats the cope since Janitor's introduction back in 2008.

Wanna check your calendar and see what year we are in ? :saden:
 
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