Powers & Abilities The No Haki, Haki Battleship Bag Training..

[Rootbeer]

Anyone with common sense understands by now that this training is directly related to
the new Haki attack application that Garp, Aokiji and Coby did..

Coby doing the same Training..

Then you have the same being replicated in a clash and not a clash..

Coby Showcased the full extent of What Aokiji and Garp Foreshadowed because evidently Oda wanted
Coby to demonstrate that new technique first to give him the spotlight as the future of the Marines and
direct friend of Luffy and parallel to Roger..

So '' not '' a Haki Training, but the outcome was for improving your Haki..

 

[Herrera95]

That kind of stupid question. Of course it is related. It's how he trained. Both him, Garp and Aokiji.

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So '' not '' a Haki Training, but the outcome was for improving your Haki..

The trainning has nothing to do with haki. You can't train haki to grow stronger by not using except CoC.

The trainning was for raw strength without haki. Because he you use haki you would quickly destroy the ship making the trainning expensive and less effective. If you have more strength than when you use haki it will also be stronger.

 

[Rootbeer]

The trainning has nothing to do with haki. You can't train haki to grow stronger by not using except CoC.

The trainning was for raw strength without haki. Because he you use haki you would quickly destroy the ship making the trainning expensive and less effective. If you have more strength than when you use haki it will also be stronger.

I'm saying the Hard part of the training is '' not '' using Haki.. That's why they damage it in the beginning a bit and as they go less and less.

The training is not for raw strenght at all, it's to focus Haki in a single point of Impact..

Instead of being like this..

It's like this..

 

[Vanlax]

Training makes someone stronger.

So yes, it is related to COC.

 

[Rootbeer]

Training makes someone stronger.

So yes, it is related to COC.

It's a bit shady explanation..

Rayleigh was referring to the user's spirit, as in personal growth, your progression as a character.. Not physically stronger..

But i sort of get what you mean.. Discipline and dedication is part of personal growth to some degree..

 

[Kiiro]

I'm saying the Hard part of the training is '' not '' using Haki.. That's why they damage it in the beginning a bit and as they go less and less.

The training is not for raw strenght at all, it's to focus Haki in a single point of Impact..

Instead of being like this..

It's like this..

It kinda seems the same those feats.

I understand your point and it kinda makes sense, we just need the manga to confirm it.

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Bro reads his own manga.

 

[Rootbeer]

Bro reads his own manga.

Dude you think Roger and Shanks' Kamusari are the same based on the attack name when they are completely different..

One is straight AdCoC '' no touch '' close range..

Other is AdCoA + CoC Black Lightning ray '' touching '' Oden..

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Dude you think Roger and Shanks' Kamusari are the same based on the attack name when they are completely different..

One is straight AdCoC '' no touch '' close range..

Other is AdCoA + CoC Black Lightning ray '' touching '' Oden..

They're same.

 

[Herrera95]

I'm saying the Hard part of the training is '' not '' using Haki.. That's why they damage it in the beginning a bit and as they go less and less.

The training is not for raw strenght at all, it's to focus Haki in a single point of Impact..

Instead of being like this..

It's like this..

Luffy haki training involved him using haki all the time.

Garp training is about raw strength. That's why they don't use haki.

 

[Rootbeer]

They're same.

They are clearly not.. Your comprehension skills are terribly lacking..

Luffy haki training involved him using haki all the time.

Garp training is about raw strength. That's why they don't use haki.

That's so wrong.. You think it's easy to '' not '' use Haki when you're trying to punch steel?.. If you don't have Haki like Aokiji, it easy when you have Haki it's hard.. It's not a Swordsman like Zoro who can just easily not imbue their Blade with Haki to cut Monet..

Fists are a direct manifestion of your willpower..

 

[Herrera95]

They are clearly not.. Your comprehension skills are terribly lacking..



That's so wrong.. You think it's easy to '' not '' use Haki when you're trying to punch steel?.. If you don't have Haki like Aokiji, it easy when you have Haki it's hard.. It's not a Swordsman like Zoro who can just easily not imbue their Blade with Haki to cut Monet..

Fists are a direct manifestion of your willpower..

Yes it is easy to not use haki. Specially when you are Coby and not even know what haki is.

It's easy to not use haki. People have to concentrate to use it.

Once again headcannoing about things not said on manga.

 

[Gol D. Roger]

They are clearly not.. Your comprehension skills are terribly lacking..

As I said, you're reading your own story.

 

[Rootbeer]

Yes it is easy to not use haki. Specially when you are Coby and not even know what haki is.

It's easy to not use haki. People have to concentrate to use it.

Once again headcannoing about things not said on manga.

Actually when you're a Haki user, it's excruciatingly hard to not use Haki for an attack that would normally require it..

 

[Herrera95]

Actually when you're a Haki user, it's excruciatingly hard to not use Haki for an attack that would normally require it..

That's your headcannon saying. When reality we are seeing people not using haki all the time. Big Mom. Law. Kid.

 

[Rootbeer]

That's your headcannon saying. When reality we are seeing people not using haki all the time. Big Mom. Law. Kid.

Then the Battleship Bags would be more destroyed if it was only Strenght.. Same as if it was only Haki..

In the course of Aokiji's training he went through 3 different sound while punching the Ships, first because he didn't have Haki as he said to Garp, second with Haki when he became a Haki user, and third removing Haki from his training which took time and efforts..

 

[Jaekins]

Rootbeer, what are you saying? That doesn’t make any sense. You’ve completely headcannoned absolute nonsense into the battleship bags training. It’s 0 haki training. Because if you used haki, it wouldn’t be training.

 

[Rootbeer]

Rootbeer, what are you saying? That doesn’t make any sense. You’ve completely headcannoned absolute nonsense into the battleship bags training. It’s 0 haki training. Because if you used haki, it wouldn’t be training.

The hard part is '' not '' using Haki.. When Aokiji unlocked Haki, you think he could have the intent of punching through steel without inadvertently putting Haki behind his intent?..

 

[Herrera95]

Then the Battleship Bags would be more destroyed if it was only Strenght.. Same as if it was only Haki..

In the course of Aokiji's training he went through 3 different sound while punching the Ships, first because he didn't have Haki as he said to Garp, second with Haki when he became a Haki user, and third removing Haki from his training which took time and efforts..

Here they are talking about strength

And Garp only orientation was only no haki nothing about any of the bullshit you are talking

The different sounds you are talking about are just Aokiji becoming stronger to the point is makes the same sound as Garp. Nothing related to having haki or not which is your headcannon assumption once more.

Once again talking about working out, getting stronger. No specific method being used.

 

[Rootbeer]

Here they are talking about strength

And Garp only orientation was only no haki nothing about any of the bullshit you are talking

The different sounds you are talking about are just Aokiji becoming stronger to the point is makes the same sound as Garp. Nothing related to having haki or not which is your headcannon assumption once more.

Once again talking about working out, getting stronger. No specific method being used.

So Aokiji got stronger and never awakened Haki..