General & Others The Over Exaggeration of Oden's Attack

#62
The changes are in the amount of Dragon-like features that are present in the Hybrid.
Nothing really says that it's an awakening "form" & only awakened Zoans can do that.
Kaidou is a strong candidate to be an awakened zoan - but as all Zoan awakenings, it gives them a boost for their physical properties.
There's no such thing as "Hybrid Awakened" form.
there clearly is

Luffy's awakening gives him a new form. Kaido says his transformation is something unique to zoans. This proves that other awakened zoans have transformations.

The fact that his special hybrid seems to be more muscular and more dragon like parallels how Nika awakening similarly allows Luffy to become more muscular and more nika-like.
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
#63
Luffy's awakening gives him a new form. Kaido says his transformation is something unique to zoans. This proves that other awakened zoans have transformations.
Nope, Kaidou never says that. He says Transformations are trademark of Zoans, not of Zoan awakenings.
And that was said when he was questioning what Luffy's new power was.
Luffy's fruit is clearly something out of the ordinary.

The fact that his special hybrid seems to be more muscular and more dragon like parallels how Nika awakening similarly allows Luffy to become more muscular and more nika-like.
Nika does not make Luffy more muscular. He increases his muscle mass due to his ability to freely expand. There's a difference.
 
#64
Nope, Kaidou never says that. He says Transformations are trademark of Zoans, not of Zoan awakenings.
yes, but he knew Luffy was using awakening
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Anyways, it makes no sense for zoan awakening to not effect their transformations. Kaido's words clearly imply he is awakened, as he knows so much about awakening and he claims to be the strongest.

And that special hybrid is something he goes into when he's extremely serious and its moves are stronger than the average thunder bagua. So it makes no sense for it not to be awakening imo. Especially when Kaido gets buff just like G5 Luffy.
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
#65
yes, but he knew Luffy was using awakening
He sees Luffy turning the environment into rubber and says it's his Paramythia powers awakening. He then comments on how Luffy transforms and talks about how it's a trademark of Zoans.

Anyways, it makes no sense for zoan awakening to not effect their transformations. Kaido's words clearly imply he is awakened, as he knows so much about awakening and he claims to be the strongest.

And that special hybrid is something he goes into when he's extremely serious and its moves are stronger than the average thunder bagua. So it makes no sense for it not to be awakening imo. Especially when Kaido gets buff just like G5 Luffy.
Kaidou gets buff via a different form. Nika gets buff by freely changing their shape.
Just because two things look brown, doesn't mean mud is chocolate.

Kaidou is a prime candidate for having Awakening, yes.
He has all the trademarks that an Awakened zoans possess as Crocodile described - increased resilience & increased physical stats.
What I'm saying is that there's no reason to believe a specific transformation is what Zoan awakenings provide.
Nothing of that sort is specified ever in any source.
 
#66
What I'm saying is that there's no reason to believe a specific transformation is what Zoan awakenings provide.
Nothing of that sort is specified ever in any source.
Why does Luffy's awakening give him a transformation?
Why do the impel down zoans look different from any other zoan hybrid we have ever seen?
Why does Kaido have a special hybrid form?
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
#67
Why does Luffy's awakening give him a transformation?
Is Luffy's fruit a traditional Zoan?
Why didn't Luffy have any transformations all this while?

Why do the impel down zoans look different from any other zoan hybrid we have ever seen?
What?

Why does Kaido have a special hybrid form?
It's not a "special" hybrid form.
He didn't even use it continuously in Drunken mode, but alternated between it & the lean Hybrid a la Lucci.
 

Dickie D. Dick

SII - Sakazuki Incinerate Imu
#68
Why does Luffy's awakening give him a transformation?
Why do the impel down zoans look different from any other zoan hybrid we have ever seen?
Why does Kaido have a special hybrid form?
Simple.
Nika -> Saiyan
"Sun God" Nika - Legendery Super Sayian

Impel Down Demon Guards use drugs like Chopper, Maria and Jack

Why Chopper, Maria and Jack have a special hybrid form(s)?
 
#70
As an attack, it could be damn strong, not as strong as Ashura, but strong. At the end, Kaido would had won high diff and at worst extreme diff since he wasnt yet at his prime.
 
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