Questions & Mysteries The real reason for Enma reaction is

why enma reacts like this

  • zoro shows doubt of himself

    Votes: 2 9.5%
  • enma still misses oden even in zoro hand

    Votes: 11 52.4%
  • a sight of becoming black sword, or a boost for zoro

    Votes: 8 38.1%

  • Total voters
    21
#21
Um no. It does absolutely nothing when a person is just holding it. It's not until you attack with it, that it drains your Haki.

the first panel: zoro just unsheathed enma.
the second panel: enma continued to drain zoro's haki after the attack, until zoro stopped it and forced it to give the haki back, there's even a sound effect "fssss" which means that merely holding enma activates it's ability.

even in tengoyama's explanation, emna operates in two steps:
1- exudes the wielder's haki on it's own
2-cuts more than needed.

-so, enma always exudes the wielder's haki, even without attacking. the wielder can then chose if he wants to take his haki back from enma or use it to do massive cuts.
-enma when mastered, the wielder can just leash enma and stop it from exuding his haki, until the wielder decides otherwise.
-if the wielder is but an ordinary swordsman, enma will continue to exude his haki until he's nothing but a dry husk.
 
#23
two things happen nearly the same time are : "i don't think i can win withouting knowing...." and "shamisem sound"
the first one, zoro starts doubt himself, enma goes crazy and zoro can't control it just like the first time he took it.
or just enma is sth still belong to everything rerated to Oden. Enma seems miss his/her former owner and zoro losing of control it in momments
It’s the shamisel,Oden Loved that Song Hiyori Played so Enma Is reacting to that
 
#24
the first panel: zoro just unsheathed enma.
the second panel: enma continued to drain zoro's haki after the attack, until zoro stopped it and forced it to give the haki back, there's even a sound effect "fssss" which means that merely holding enma activates it's ability.

even in tengoyama's explanation, emna operates in two steps:
1- exudes the wielder's haki on it's own
2-cuts more than needed.

-so, enma always exudes the wielder's haki, even without attacking. the wielder can then chose if he wants to take his haki back from enma or use it to do massive cuts.
-enma when mastered, the wielder can just leash enma and stop it from exuding his haki, until the wielder decides otherwise.
-if the wielder is but an ordinary swordsman, enma will continue to exude his haki until he's nothing but a dry husk.
Absolutely nothing suggests what your saying. Zoro unsheathes the Sword and is holding it perfectly fine with no issues. Not even a comment or anything about the Sword doing anything weird to his body. It's not until Zoro attacks, like Hitetsu tells him to, that the Sword drains his haki. If the Sword functions like you think it does, it would have instantly turned black as soon as Zoro unsheathed it, due to it pulling out his haki, which it didn't.

Which is factually false :

Zoro just holding the sword to tend it was enough for the sword to act up. Zoro has to be continuously focus on the sword for it to not suck his haki.
You really gonna post a cover page of Zoro training with Enma as some sort of proof, when in the manga we literally see Zoro holding Enma for the first time with nothing suggesting it is pulling his Haki out while he holds it?
 
#26
i wont think too far into this
its symbolic
its prev master's blade and its playing a song he loved so it reacts by doing what it has routinely done.

its only unusual cause it typically does this when and after zoro has or is about to launch an attack.
 
#27
Absolutely nothing suggests what your saying. Zoro unsheathes the Sword and is holding it perfectly fine with no issues. Not even a comment or anything about the Sword doing anything weird to his body. It's not until Zoro attacks, like Hitetsu tells him to, that the Sword drains his haki. If the Sword functions like you think it does, it would have instantly turned black as soon as Zoro unsheathed it, do to it pulling out his haki, which it didn't.
the rooftop is enough proof that zoro needs to charge enma with haki before he attacks.

and you can rewatch the first time zoro used enma in the anime, it does exactly what i said, zoro held it for a little while, then enma started exuding his haki on it's own, before zoro even swung to cut the tree.
zoro cut the cliff and enma continues to drain zoro's haki, until zoro stopped it and reclaimed back his haki.
 
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Formerly Seth

#28
i wont think too far into this
its symbolic
its prev master's blade and its playing a song he loved so it reacts by doing what it has routinely done.

its only unusual cause it typically does this when and after zoro has or is about to launch an attack.
When pics dropped, it shoved away a lot of nonsense.

I would say that Zoro lost the focus so Enma suck him off because of that. Not like Enma reacted to the song. Although may be wrong on that one. Guess we will see once he gets around hiyori I guess?
 
#30
You really gonna post a cover page of Zoro training with Enma as some sort of proof, when in the manga we literally see Zoro holding Enma for the first time with nothing suggesting it is pulling his Haki out while he holds it?
1/ He is not training with the sword in the picture I posted, except if you that Shiliew is also training with his sword here:


2/Yep he hold Enma for the first time and the sword did not react immediately but it was because he was the first time. Since Zoro attacked with it once, the sword needs to be kept under control.
 

Finalbeta

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#31
Swords are living objects sharing memories, sensations, emotions, feelings. Enma is just the most reactive sword we ever saw and people are getting misled thinking Oden is in there with some mystic soul when that's abudantly unlikely. CoO can very well pick up on that, why not.
 
#33
yea seems like Enma hasnt fully accepted Zoro in some way.
A comment on Youtube guessed that every named sword has its own will. Someone who has understood the will of their sword can choose what/who to cut or not to cut. Mihawk displayed this when attacking Luffy through the crowds in MF, Shiryu displayed this by unsheathing his Katana in Impel Down (if it glows a certain color, he attacks, which explains why he didn't attack BBP), and Ryuma displayed this when he conceded that Shusui would be pleased to have Zoro as a master.

Anyway, the comment guesses that Zoro has yet to understand Enma's will, that's why he is having a backlash with Enma now.
 
#34
A comment on Youtube guessed that every named sword has its own will. Someone who has understood the will of their sword can choose what/who to cut or not to cut. Mihawk displayed this when attacking Luffy through the crowds in MF, Shiryu displayed this by unsheathing his Katana in Impel Down (if it glows a certain color, he attacks, which explains why he didn't attack BBP), and Ryuma displayed this when he conceded that Shusui would be pleased to have Zoro as a master.

Anyway, the comment guesses that Zoro has yet to understand Enma's will, that's why he is having a backlash with Enma now.

I think the sword at heard the shamisen realized who is her real owner(since oden left the sword to hiyori)and the sword started to disobey Zoro
 
#37
A comment on Youtube guessed that every named sword has its own will. Someone who has understood the will of their sword can choose what/who to cut or not to cut. Mihawk displayed this when attacking Luffy through the crowds in MF, Shiryu displayed this by unsheathing his Katana in Impel Down (if it glows a certain color, he attacks, which explains why he didn't attack BBP), and Ryuma displayed this when he conceded that Shusui would be pleased to have Zoro as a master.

Anyway, the comment guesses that Zoro has yet to understand Enma's will, that's why he is having a backlash with Enma now.
thats very interesting.

but the sword also has a role to accept the wielder too, right? because when Zoro got Sandai Kitetsu its more like Sandai accepting Zoro (mostly because Zoro's will) by not cutting his hand when Zoro barely understands the will of the sword itself
 
#39

I think the sword at heard the shamisen realized who is her real owner(since oden left the sword to hiyori)and the sword started to disobey Zoro
Possibly. It's clear as of 1032 that Zoro has yet to fully master Enma, so the sword rampaging due to certain causes is not out of possibility.

Another Youtube comment said that Zoro's will weakening since he does not know yet the secret to King's durability hax could be another reason why Enma is running amok.

thats very interesting.

but the sword also has a role to accept the wielder too, right? because when Zoro got Sandai Kitetsu its more like Sandai accepting Zoro (mostly because Zoro's will) by not cutting his hand when Zoro barely understands the will of the sword itself
This is just my guess, but I don't think the sword has the role to accept its wielder. I feel like it's more that the wielder has to be worthy of the sword's judgment to wield it completely.

Sandai Kitetsu was, yes, mastered before Zoro fully understood the will of the sword. But, to be fair, Zoro put up SK for a bet and SK lost that bet since fate had it that Zoro would leave that shop with his arms intact. This may sound nonsensical, but considering we could safely assume that SK had never been owned by anybody of note before (unlike Enma and Shusui), I think Zoro winning that bet made SK "accepted" Zoro as its owner, so to speak.

Shusui, too, acknowledged Zoro, despite having been owned by Ryuma for years, because Zoro won their duel (this was immediately confirmed by Ryuma himself).

I think, the problem with Enma is that it was "simply given" to Zoro. Yeah, yeah, Hiyori gave it as a replacement for Shusui, but handling a curse sword is never that easy. Unlike SK, Zoro never bet a thing against Enma. And, unlike Shusui, Oden was long dead before Zoro even had the chance to best him in a duel. Add to the fact that Zoro is consistently struggling to draw out Enma's power makes me think Enma has yet to acknowledge Zoro as worthy of Enma's service. Yet.
 
#40
You need to do an attack and then Emma takes your haki. I'm assuming once someone becomes proficient in using Emma they can allocate enough haki into their attack prior to sending it out. Almost like a charged ki blast. That's what I think Zoro does when he used Asura on the roof because we do see Zoro pouring his haki into the blade. That's my assumption anyways.
 
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