Character Discussion The reason Zoro’s fights suck in the anime NOW compared to start of Wano
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It's all the fault of 5 gears, as well as the fact that the entire immediate budget went to Yamato and the split of the heavens
Fanatics Toei justify all this by saying that the whole fight is still ahead, but there is only one chapter ahead, and then, the worst of all Zoro vs King. The best chapter was 1033, 1035 lazy and made to, as can be seen in the quality of the drawing and action
I don't even think there's going to be someone cool in episode 1062 like Mori, Vincent, Ota, Yong, even Ishizuka
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Fanatics Toei justify all this by saying that the whole fight is still ahead, but there is only one chapter ahead, and then, the worst of all Zoro vs King. The best chapter was 1033, 1035 lazy and made to, as can be seen in the quality of the drawing and action
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I don't even think there's going to be someone cool in episode 1062 like Mori, Vincent, Ota, Yong, even Ishizuka
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It's all the fault of 5 gears, as well as the fact that the entire immediate budget went to Yamato and the split of the heavens
I didn't expect any of these fights to look phenomenal from beginning to end but they are fumbling Zoro vs King more than i thought it was possible.
How could they do this? The manga is a thousand times better, you can't even see King (and that one of the coolest parts of this move), he is just shooting air slashes like crazy without minding who is getting hit by them (which is also intentional)
Still, this has nothing to do with this not being "Zoro's arc", because Zoro still got a lot of focus in Wano anyways. Zoro's animation at the start of the arc is just a pay off for Zoro not appearing for so long during WCI, there is no big deal here..
And Zoro already got great animation in the rooftop (although Sanji also got great animation in the perfomance floor), so they might be focusing on Sanji vs Queen more, that has been pretty good so far. Both Sanji and Queen's animation have been great and pretty consistent. The fact they love Queen so much is also a defining factor for Sanji vs Queen being done justice in the anime, he just got one of the best animation sequences in Onigashima even when Sanji wasn't around..
There is no excuse for some of the Zoro vs King scenes, but as i said above, there are more possible reasons than one for this to be happening.
Thats one more reason to hate Yamato
They spent budget on this Oden wannabe who didn't even joined the crew ffs
All of that could've been spent on the fights of characters that matter
How could they do this? The manga is a thousand times better, you can't even see King (and that one of the coolest parts of this move), he is just shooting air slashes like crazy without minding who is getting hit by them (which is also intentional)
Still, this has nothing to do with this not being "Zoro's arc", because Zoro still got a lot of focus in Wano anyways. Zoro's animation at the start of the arc is just a pay off for Zoro not appearing for so long during WCI, there is no big deal here..
And Zoro already got great animation in the rooftop (although Sanji also got great animation in the perfomance floor), so they might be focusing on Sanji vs Queen more, that has been pretty good so far. Both Sanji and Queen's animation have been great and pretty consistent. The fact they love Queen so much is also a defining factor for Sanji vs Queen being done justice in the anime, he just got one of the best animation sequences in Onigashima even when Sanji wasn't around..
There is no excuse for some of the Zoro vs King scenes, but as i said above, there are more possible reasons than one for this to be happening.
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Thats one more reason to hate Yamato
They spent budget on this Oden wannabe who didn't even joined the crew ffs
All of that could've been spent on the fights of characters that matter
The biggest problem is they animate half a chapter per episode now
was so excited last saturday
just for them to completely milk and stretch out the fights
totally kills the vibe.
maybe as an anime only watcher its fine
but someone who does both , its exhausting.
anyway animation hopefully is on point on saturday.
was so excited last saturday
just for them to completely milk and stretch out the fights
totally kills the vibe.
maybe as an anime only watcher its fine
but someone who does both , its exhausting.
anyway animation hopefully is on point on saturday.
It's all the fault of 5 gears, as well as the fact that the entire immediate budget went to Yamato and the split of the heavens
Fanatics Toei justify all this by saying that the whole fight is still ahead, but there is only one chapter ahead, and then, the worst of all Zoro vs King. The best chapter was 1033, 1035 lazy and made to, as can be seen in the quality of the drawing and action
I don't even think there's going to be someone cool in episode 1062 like Mori, Vincent, Ota, Yong, even Ishizuka
This is the part of the fight that hasn't even been adapted yet. And there is a world of difference between fan animation and actually animating.
Fan animators don't necessarily make good industry animators.
Yeah, thats cap. Not sure what your talking about at all lol.
Most of those fights either weren't multi episode or had a lot of dialogue to help break it up.
For example, after Who's Whos fight, things didn't really pick up till 1043 during the black maria fight.
Also, again, we are literally heading into the most important stuff for these fights right now.
Animation companies aren't magic. This isn't a budget issue. This is just basic staff allocation.
Just the same, most of the cool and beautiful moments were in 1033: jackpot, shi shi son son, tempura udon, a kick with a fiery foot, in general, the crowding of zoro, in parallel with this, atmospheric flashbacks, Forcing the strength of the King by Queen, and at the end the awakening of AdvCoC. All this is accompanied by a beautiful drawing. This is a very rich, beautiful and atmospheric chapter.
1035, on the other hand, does not represent anything other than an action of not the best quality, made in haste. There is nothing to see on it except the final page. This is literally the chapter that made so many disillusioned with Zoro vs King. In addition, King himself is acting very stupidly, disabling the protection mode for no reason. I hope this will be fixed in the anime, although when this anime corrected something ...
1035, on the other hand, does not represent anything other than an action of not the best quality, made in haste. There is nothing to see on it except the final page. This is literally the chapter that made so many disillusioned with Zoro vs King. In addition, King himself is acting very stupidly, disabling the protection mode for no reason. I hope this will be fixed in the anime, although when this anime corrected something ...
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The lion song was a cool panel, but most of that stuff is pretty bland(that was adapted in 1059).
The stuff that really carries this fight is the enma stuff towards the back half of the chapter, which again, has yet to be adapted.
The jackpot and Tempura udon stuff isn't really anything special. Even the lion song, while cool, isn't much of anything. Its effectively the equivalent of Zoro's attacks not working on Mr 1.
1035 finally fleshes out King a bit, and although not the best action chapter, its a chapter that really follows through on the emotional pay off of king of hell.
Its definitely a bit of a rushed chapter, but its also a really solid climax to the fight, and it was nice that Zoro's opponent also got some characterization.
The stuff that really carries this fight is the enma stuff towards the back half of the chapter, which again, has yet to be adapted.
The jackpot and Tempura udon stuff isn't really anything special. Even the lion song, while cool, isn't much of anything. Its effectively the equivalent of Zoro's attacks not working on Mr 1.
1035 finally fleshes out King a bit, and although not the best action chapter, its a chapter that really follows through on the emotional pay off of king of hell.
Its definitely a bit of a rushed chapter, but its also a really solid climax to the fight, and it was nice that Zoro's opponent also got some characterization.