General & Others The same manga says than Zoro has defeated Killer and Hawkins

#41
They were in a draw, the alternative was keepin' that for hours. Gyukimaru intervention with a well armored Killer would've resulted in Zoro's death or amputation at least, that's a fact.

Even the Rengoku Onigiri wouldn't have closed the fight, Oda after making clear how Punishers are important for Killer showed us a technique on the same pace of with Rengoku Onigiri, which is Zanshu Claw.
That was his reintroduction, makin' his starting benchmark the techniqe Zoro used against him. If this doesn't speak for itself...

Killer puts the majority of Onigashima in a body bag in a 1v1, leaving the Emperors aside. Even his fellow R5 gotta run for that smoke. The sooner you realize it, the most you'll enjoy it.
Your mistake is you want to give Killer his punisher blades, which he is stronger with, but keep everything else about the battle the same. It doesn't work that way. If Zoro is fighting stronger opponent then he will use stronger attacks. Killer punisher blades doesn't guarantee he can hit Zoro. If Killer was using stronger attacks and name attacks then Zoro would have been doing the same.

In the scenario that was presented to us, in the manga, Zoro and Killer were even only in CQC. Zoro was stronger in every other area. That's why Oda had Zoro respond to Killer, who had his punisher blades at the time, that the outcome would have been the same. It was Oda way of telling us that Zoro would have still defeated Killer with his punisher blades. We can see that to be true when we look at Zoro's over all strength, techniques, and sword styles.

Killer was defeated by Zoro's blackened haki Rengoku Onigiri. His punisher blades doesn't make his body more durable or increases his endurance. The attack Zoro used against Kaido was a non-blackened haki version so it was weaker than the one he used against Killer. At the most that scene shows us is a normal Rengoku Onigiri is comparable to Killer's Zanshu Claw.

It doesn't matter if Killer can beat a majority of the people on Onigashima, he still loses to Zoro who is much stronger than him.
 
#46
He defeated killer, but he literally ran from Hawkins. This isn't to say he couldn't have won, but its not really a defeat when Hawkins doesn't have a single injury and hasn't even gotten off his horse.

O-tsuru probably just didn't know how hawkins's powers worked
 
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