General & Others The scabbards injuring Kaido

[Hades]

So you actually think raizo can beat someone like doffy or marco ?

Your thought process is so narrow that you couldn't even understand what was happening in the fight lol....

Raizou didn't beat Kaido he just redirected the Kaido attack to him

but fucking Kinemon, who got cut apart by Law, punted aside by Doflamingo, and was shitting bricks at Zoro cutting Pica, and Kiku injuring Kaido?

All the things you mentioned were circumstantial/contextual...you and some people here act like mental fortitude doesn't matter in battles...also, Kinemon doesn't know how "hax DF works" or as a matter of fact doesn't have much knowledge about devil fruits....

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So you actually think raizo can beat someone like doffy or marco ?

it is fucking group battle....like I said people must learn to understand how abilities work before making threads with half assed knowledge

 

[kuzanhandsome]

I'm different from most people here, I don't find the 9 red scabbard vs kaido absurd at all. If kaido easily take down the scabbard, they will be just trash and that doesn't add any weight to the kaido, if the 9 scabbards are very strong and the kaido can still beat them, the kaido will be lifted further range. To me if this has an absurdity of 1, then luffy and zoro are super weak at night and suddenly super strong and take down cp9 in the morning is absurd 10

 

[Extravlad]

Yonko wankers overhyped and overrated Yonko FOR YEARS based off ABSOLUTELY NOTHING tangible

And now they're mad at Oda for them not living up to their headcanon fanfiction bs?

 

[Gyro The God]

Your thought process is so narrow that you couldn't even understand what was happening in the fight lol....

Raizou didn't beat Kaido he just redirected the Kaido attack to him

raizo (And Kinemon izo kiku) is not on the level of marco kata doffy king

so the strongest character in the series that was hyped for his insane durability was injured by characters below commanders level

terrible writing

 

[Hades]

raizo (And Kinemon izo kiku) is not on the level of marco kata doffy king

so the strongest character in the series that was hyped for his insane durability was injured by characters below commanders level

terrible writing

no...you don't have to be their level to injure a little.........Kinemon can cut fire and has ryo...and who said Kiku ain't commander level?...how did you know?? same goes for Izo, he was one of the WB commanders....

Brook injured BigMom homies which I don't think Kata/Doffy or King (?) can do so Brook is stronger than them? or Sugar can neg diff the entire verse eventhough she ain't even half strong as Doflamingo....

besides fight is 9 vs 1, and whatever wounds they gave were too shallow, you don't even know how teamfights work...haven't you seen Oars vs SH

 

[PurpleSwordsman]

no...you don't have to be their level to injure a little.........Kinemon can cut fire and has ryo...and who said Kiku ain't commander level?...how did you know?? same goes for Izo, he was one of the WB commanders....

In this case yes you need.
Why? Because Kaido is an equal to BM in terms of durability/hardness of their body, without the need of Haki. Even above with his hype.
Any other character would be fine, I mean, if scabbards injure like this Shanks, WB, Roger, Garp, Sengoku, Mihawk, etc etc (without them using CoA), this won't be a problem, since they don't have this "special" body.
But with Kaido there is, he has a natural strong defence without the need of Haki. He even asked, why are they able to injure me despite not being as strong as Oden? -> Implying you need that lvl of AP.
The same face got we the people who payed attention to these details.

Brook injured BigMom homies which I don't think Kata/Doffy or King (?) can do so Brook is stronger than them? or Sugar can neg diff the entire verse eventhough she ain't even half strong as Doflamingo....

Brook's ability is counter to BM's ability. So ofc he would do better than those you said.
But here scabbards don't have any counter for Kaido. Their attacks are normal cuts. Advanced Haki first lvl increases AP only, more than normal CoA.
If you have 50 points of attack normally, with normal CoA it would be 70, and with Advanced Haki it would be 140 let's say. There is nothing special about it.

So Oda does not make sense at all. In the previous arc he needed to nerf that durability of BM with all that stuff about Carmel and BM's mental state, and here scabbards are cutting Kaido because reasons!

 

[Geo]

It is all down to reading comprehension and the level bias.
It was all consistent showings from Oda. Those who couldn't see it either lacked the reading comprehension or were too biased to see it or both.

 

[Hades]

In this case yes you need.
Why? Because Kaido is an equal to BM in terms of durability/hardness of their body, without the need of Haki. Even above with his hype.
Any other character would be fine, I mean, if scabbards injure like this Shanks, WB, Roger, Garp, Sengoku, Mihawk, etc etc (without them using CoA), this won't be a problem, since they don't have this "special" body.
But with Kaido there is, he has a natural strong defence without the need of Haki. He even asked, why are they able to injure me despite not being as strong as Oden? -> Implying you need that lvl of AP.
The same face got we the people who payed attention to these details.


Brook's ability is counter to BM's ability. So ofc he would do better than those you said.
But here scabbards don't have any counter for Kaido. They are attacks are normal cuts. Advanced Haki first lvl increases AP.
If you have 50 points of attack normally, with normal CoA it would be 70, and with Advanced Haki it would be 140 let's say. There is nothing special about it.

So Oda does not make sense at all. In the previous arc he needed to nerf that durability of BM somehow, and here scabbards are cutting Kaido because reasons!

Nonsense....haki is a technique not force....ad. haki is a hax version of haki....AP depending on the punch force or kick...for example, Luffy could break Katakuri defence in G4 eventhough his CoA is weaker than Katakuri....Kaido has strong defence but it was never said to be impenetrable...

Kaido initially thought that they wouldn't break his defense which they did with "haki" and hence the surprise because from their force only Oden wounded him, but they didn't do Oden level of damage (chapter 990 or 991 don't remember but refer to chapter where Kaido cuts kiku arm)......

Could you tell me how did Oda nerf BM durability?? because no one managed to injure her from WCI to Wano

If you have 50 points of attack normally, with normal CoA it would be 70, and with Advanced Haki it would be 140 let's say. There is nothing special about it.

wrong math....adCoA increases lethality not AP....what you have mentioned is stronger hardening...it has nothing to do with flowing/barrier haki

 

[PurpleSwordsman]

Nonsense....haki is a technique not force....ad. haki is a hax version of haki....AP depending on the punch force or kick...for example, Luffy could break Katakuri defence in G4 eventhough his CoA is weaker than Katakuri....Kaido has strong defence but it was never said to be impenetrable...

Kaido initially thought that they wouldn't break his defense which they did with "haki" and hence the surprise because from their force only Oden wounded him, but they didn't do Oden level of damage (chapter 990 or 991 don't remember but refer to chapter where Kaido cuts kiku arm)......

Could you tell me how did Oda nerf BM durability?? because no one managed to injure her from WCI to Wano

If you have 50 points of attack normally, with normal CoA it would be 70, and with Advanced Haki it would be 140 let's say. There is nothing special about it.

wrong math....adCoA increases lethality not AP....what you have mentioned is stronger hardening...it has nothing to do with flowing/barrier haki

It is more force. Proved in the first page.
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/the-scabbards-injuring-kaido.8446/#post-817788
The user gathers more Haki in one point. That's why is stronger than normal CoA.

Oda nerfed BM durability with the Carmel portrait. She lost her hardness after a mental breakdown. Before that, Bege couldn't pierce her skin with that rpg launcher.
And Kaido should have the same hardness, if not even above since he has more hype.

 

[Hades]

Oda nerfed BM durability with the Carmel portrait. She lost her hardness after a mental breakdown. Before that, Bege couldn't pierce her skin with that rpg launcher.

That was not a nerf...that was already implied before as her weakness....that didn't come out of nowhere....

t is more force. Proved in the first page.
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/the-scabbards-injuring-kaido.8446/#post-817788
The user gathers more Haki in one point. That's why is stronger than normal CoA.

you didn't prove shit...all you said is the same shit you posted in your previous post....you are just talking about quantity....it is not about more haki...it is about quality....

 

[PurpleSwordsman]

That was not a nerf...that was already implied before as her weakness....that didn't come out of nowhere....

That's the definition of nerf.
I didn't say it come from nowhere.
The point is that Oda needed to make something about that hardness, and he gave a reasonable explanation and method. With Kaido this didn't happen since Advanced Haki is not something special, is only more AP.

you didn't prove shit...all you said is the same shit you posted in your previous post....you are just talking about quantity....it is not about more haki...it is about quality....

It's not quality lol. There you have the explanation of Hyogoro, did I made up something?
What quality? Is more quantity, that's all.
What do you understand for "you must allow the haki to flow into your fist from the parts that do not need it!". I didn't put those words in the bubble, you know?
It's pretty clear.

 

[Luffy bin Dragon]

raizo (And Kinemon izo kiku) is not on the level of marco kata doffy king

so the strongest character in the series that was hyped for his insane durability was injured by characters below commanders level

terrible writing

Most of these we were not shown there abilities and that to the emotional narrative, the theme of inherited will and the fact that Kaido wants to die it pretty clear how they managed to hit him.

I know you guys hate Wano but at least pay attention to happened before if your going to criticize it

 

[kurwa]

Most of these we were not shown there abilities and that to the emotional narrative, the theme of inherited will and the fact that Kaido wants to die it pretty clear how they managed to hit him.

I know you guys hate Wano but at least pay attention to happened before if your going to criticize it

lmao stop with this "Kaido wants to die" shit
He was surprised he was being attacked and getting injured.
He tried to fight back only to get humiliated in return.

No where in the story did he ever let them actually hit him.

 

[MonsterKaido]

 

[Finalbeta]

Damn Gyro

 

[Midnight Delight]

lmao stop with this "Kaido wants to die" shit
He was surprised he was being attacked and getting injured.
He tried to fight back only to get humiliated in return.

No where in the story did he ever let them actually hit him.

Tried to fight back by using 10%(and I am being generous here) of his Power?

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

 

[Finalbeta]

Kin'emon to the assault

 

[Herrera95]

Guess you went too far on this. Scabbard did minimum to no damage at all. Even Luffy ACoA wasn't big damage. Even ACoC isn't that impressive since Kaido is tanking so many. Only impressive damage Kaido took was the scar from Zoro. Which seems to be similar to what Oden did against him.