Future Events The Straw hat crew structure and hierarchy
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It seems fine and respectable to me. But that does not mean that the use of hierarchies is the best, nor is it the only option. It's your opinion, respect that of others.
Hierarchies have many problems. And if you are not a child and have entered the society, you should know them. Or maybe you are at the top of the hierarchy. The only good thing about the hierarchy is that people tend to do their best to climb it, which leads to the advancement of society.
However, equality only has one problem. People do not strive to improve, there are no incentives. But coincidentally, that is not a problem in the Muguiwaras, everyone has a desire to improve. So it's the perfect system.
But let's make a hierarchy in the Muguiwara. What do we use for her? The force?
These are stresses that can cause the belt to fall apart.
These are stresses that can cause the belt to fall apart.
These are stresses that can cause the belt to fall apart.
The union that the Mugiwaras have, with a hierarchy, would not be possible. It has been said several times, but what makes the Muguiwaras special is that they are fierce in their own thing. If you give importance to a specific quality to create that hierarchy, it breaks what makes them special.
Hierarchies have many problems. And if you are not a child and have entered the society, you should know them. Or maybe you are at the top of the hierarchy. The only good thing about the hierarchy is that people tend to do their best to climb it, which leads to the advancement of society.
However, equality only has one problem. People do not strive to improve, there are no incentives. But coincidentally, that is not a problem in the Muguiwaras, everyone has a desire to improve. So it's the perfect system.
But let's make a hierarchy in the Muguiwara. What do we use for her? The force?
- OK, very good. What do we do with the weak? We get rid of Usopp, Nami and Chopper. For you the most important thing is strength, so they don't contribute anything.
- But let's be good people, let's not kick them out. What do you think Nami, Usopp and Chopper would think of Jinbe and Yamato being their superiors? Some newcomers are treated better than those who have been since the beginning, they have suffered much more, they have risked their lives more times for Luffy. For what?
These are stresses that can cause the belt to fall apart.
- Since force doesn't seem like the best method, why don't we use seniority in the band? It seems fair that the one who leads the most has the most authority. But...
- What will Jinbe and Yamato think? Receive orders from Nami, Usopp and Chopper, some mindundis that could kill with a look. Why don't we kill them better and we climb positions in the hierarchy. What could they do to control these two monsters if they reveal themselves?
These are stresses that can cause the belt to fall apart.
- This doesn't seem to work either. Let's be smart. Why shouldn't the smartest be the ones in front? Well, better let's throw Luffy and Zoro overboard who lower the Iq of the ship.
These are stresses that can cause the belt to fall apart.
The union that the Mugiwaras have, with a hierarchy, would not be possible. It has been said several times, but what makes the Muguiwaras special is that they are fierce in their own thing. If you give importance to a specific quality to create that hierarchy, it breaks what makes them special.
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D: Hello, Odacchi! Looking at the cover page of Chapter 1031, it seems like Bepo is the No. 2 of the Heart Pirates, right!? I was surprised because I thought that Penguin, Shachi, and Bepo were all tied for No. 2! Are you saying that Bepo (with Sulong?) is the strongest between them? – P.N. Pudding-ya
O: That cover, huh? Similar to Zoro, not all of those characters have the title of first mate. I selected the No. 2s as I saw fit. Usually, Shachi and Penguin are more dependable, but those two—who have seen Bepo's Sulong form—are no match for Bepo in terms of fighting power...! I acknowledge him.
Luffy is the captain and has final say, and everyone has their roles to fulfill, and that's as far as it goes.
The strength of the Strawhats crew dynamic is founded in their complete trust in their captain and each another. They don't require ranks. Various - if not all - members of the Strawhats have stepped in leadership roles at various times, including but not limited to Zoro. Nami is generally more authoritative than Luffy - she would essentially be his Chief of Staff if he had one. Sanji has stepped up in similar capacities to Nami and Zoro.
There is no First Mate. No Vice Captain. No Right Hand Man. No Second in Command. All that is just wishful thinking from desperate Zoro stans.
The strength of the Strawhats crew dynamic is founded in their complete trust in their captain and each another. They don't require ranks. Various - if not all - members of the Strawhats have stepped in leadership roles at various times, including but not limited to Zoro. Nami is generally more authoritative than Luffy - she would essentially be his Chief of Staff if he had one. Sanji has stepped up in similar capacities to Nami and Zoro.
There is no First Mate. No Vice Captain. No Right Hand Man. No Second in Command. All that is just wishful thinking from desperate Zoro stans.
It's not that Zoro has the qualities, it's that Zoro has acted as Vice Captain in specific situations.
Interestingly, Oda says that not everyone is Vice Captain in that Color Spread, which is true because Sabo can't be Vice Captain since he doesn't belong to a pirate gang. Oda doesn't say Zoro isn't Vice Captain, he says not all of them. And that's the thing, Oda never said that Zoro is the Vice Captain directly, but he also didn't say that he wasn't.
The same goes for Luffy. Most of the time he is not the Captain, he is one of the gang. Have you seen any gang ignore their captain like the Muguis? Or have you seen any gang hit his captain?
That you like hierarchies does not mean that they are good or necessary. You're already criticizing One Piece because it doesn't do what you want. What a bad mania.
The lack of Hierarchy is fine, that reduces tensions in the band and avoids envy. For example, it is like the round table of King Arthur.
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Show me where Oda says that Zoro is not Vice-Captain.
- If I'm not mistaken, it's been a long time since I read it, Zoro's first performance as Vice Captain was in Whiskey Peak, when he didn't let his guard down. A characteristic of Vice Captain, watch over the crew.
- The next time, it would be after Robin's union, when he also did not let his guard down with her.
- The next time, it would be in Mock Town, when she understood Luffy with a couple of words, something that Nami wasn't even able to do. Zoro himself had to explain.
- This goes in conjunction with point number 2. In Skypea, when Zoro gets mad at Enel for attacking Robin. He no longer mistrusted her and treated her like a member of her gang.
- The next moment would be in the Foxy saga, when Zoro calms down Chopper and explains the situation.
- He brings out his Vice Captain skills again in Long Ring Long, when Zoro indicates retreat, understanding what Luffy wants to achieve with a 1 vs 1.
- In Water Seven, it is already the key point. If someone doubted Zoro Vice Captain, here it should be more than clear.
- Not only for the moment that Usopp wanted to return, which is the one that stands out the most and the one that the whole world thinks about, but also because when Luffy and Usopp fight, he stresses that you have to take it seriously and that Luffy cannot show weakness. And also when he finds out about Robin's escape, he is the first to say that she has to be rescued and that she herself clarify the situation.
- In Thriller Bark he again showed the Vice Capinatia leading the group against Kuma and then sacrificing himself for the good of the gang, not just Luffy as some think. As a good Vice Captain, he cannot allow someone other than himself to sacrifice himself for the team.
- After the Time Skip, already in Punk Hazard Zoro gives a touch of attention to Luffy so that he takes it seriously.
- In Dressrosa, when he was chasing after Pica, he was checking out potential allies for the fleet. And it was Zoro who drank the Sake, technically he was the one who accepted them.
- In Zou, Zoro was also very aware of the issue of Sanji, as in his time with Robin.
- And in Wano he has also had several scenes as Vice Captain, but the most significant is when he tells Kaido that he will have to go over him to get to Luffy.
- He is the first member of the band.
- He has been confused as a captain. And since he is not a captain, the logical thing is that he is the Vice Captain.
- Both Urogue and Bartolomeo treat him as Vice Captain. From the outside he is Vice Captain.
- His parallel with Rayleigh is undeniable. We have seen how Luffy and Zoro's relationship is more special than others.
Interestingly, Oda says that not everyone is Vice Captain in that Color Spread, which is true because Sabo can't be Vice Captain since he doesn't belong to a pirate gang. Oda doesn't say Zoro isn't Vice Captain, he says not all of them. And that's the thing, Oda never said that Zoro is the Vice Captain directly, but he also didn't say that he wasn't.
The same goes for Luffy. Most of the time he is not the Captain, he is one of the gang. Have you seen any gang ignore their captain like the Muguis? Or have you seen any gang hit his captain?
That you like hierarchies does not mean that they are good or necessary. You're already criticizing One Piece because it doesn't do what you want. What a bad mania.
The lack of Hierarchy is fine, that reduces tensions in the band and avoids envy. For example, it is like the round table of King Arthur.
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Show me where Oda says that Zoro is not Vice-Captain.
In this picture, except for Rayleigh and Bekkuman, they are not vice captains. If you have seen SBS, you should understand Oda's explanation of this picture
No.2 is not equal to the vice captain, you should understand that
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