Speculations The Straw Hat Pirates now parallel the core/top 10 members of a Yonko crew
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Even if the Tobi Roppo are stronger, I would still put the Veterans on the same rank as them. Right now nothing proves that the Numbers=Veterans, also it seems like Usopp who is part of the weak trio will probably defeat the numbers meanwhile Sanji who is part of the monster trio clashed with the veterans.
There's nothing that proves anything. But Queen jammed the Numbers after the Tobi Roppo in the apparent hierarchy roll call. They're members of the Beast Pirates. They're named after numbers instead of card games like the other non-SN members. They fit Kaido's apparent deck of cards with the Lead Performers.
Let’s see...
Straw hats right now have 10 members (with jinbe recently joined), while Blackbeard Pirates have 11 members (Teach + 10 titanic captains).
So if each straw hat will fight against black beard pirates in the future, there might be one more member to join the SHP in order to match the numbers of Blackbeard Pirates.
Right now Yamato is rising as the contender to join the SHP, but I guess it’s still so soon to say that she’ll join, since she’s not been explored much, aside from that she's Kaido daughter, and that she’s inspired by Oden and wants to be like him. Hopefully Oda expands her character more.
Straw hats right now have 10 members (with jinbe recently joined), while Blackbeard Pirates have 11 members (Teach + 10 titanic captains).
So if each straw hat will fight against black beard pirates in the future, there might be one more member to join the SHP in order to match the numbers of Blackbeard Pirates.
Right now Yamato is rising as the contender to join the SHP, but I guess it’s still so soon to say that she’ll join, since she’s not been explored much, aside from that she's Kaido daughter, and that she’s inspired by Oden and wants to be like him. Hopefully Oda expands her character more.
12 captains not just 12 members. They must have a lot of subordinates under them. Just like when Jack went to Zou with the Smiles.
But I think Luffy crew should not only mirrored other pirates crew but also the Marine. Since at the end of the Manga they'll fight each other they need to have enough pirate in their crew to fight against the Marine who organized like a pirate crew with Chief Admiral, Admirals, Vice Admiral, Captains and vice captain. If you look at Kaido crew you can see it's organized the same with him, all stars, tobi roppo, numbers, headliners.
Right apart from Zoro,Luffy, Sanji and Jinbei nobody else can face a marine with the rank of vice-admiral and higher but for the rest they can't. So they have 2 options : 1 another training and 2 recruiting more strong members. That's why Carrot and Yamato have a strong chance to join them since they have a good strengh. Also think the like of Weevil, Enel and Katakuri might join them.
Why Weevil ? Because he's a monster. As strong as WB if we trust Kizaru words. He can't be a true opponent to Luffy since he doesn't seems to be an obstacle to his goal and he is a dictator who needs to be stopped ( like the majority of the opponents he faced ). He's actually under his mom orders who is the real puppet masters. So if Luffy freed from his mom he might joins Luffy.
Why Enel ? we all know Enel. We know he'll be back in the story but since he's been already defeated by Luffy once and we know Luffy devil fruit is the weakness of his another fight between them would be meaningless. Since we all saw his adventure on the moon we know that he has a knowledge that could help the SH to understand the void century. With his mantra he'll an amazing vigil.
Why Katakuri ? after Luffy defeated him we haven't heard a thing about him. During his fight against Luffy we saw that he respects Luffy to the point of laying on his back in front of him at the end. But also at the end of the fight he asked Luffy if he'll come back to WCI to defeat Big Mom. Why would he say that ? Maybe because he wants to be free from her but he can't go like that. Look at Lola who left Big mom. So maybe after Luffy defeat Big Mom Katakuri might also join the SH.
If Yamato, Katakuri and Weevil join the SH crew Luffy would have under his orders the children of all the past yonko which would grant him a big reputation just like the Rocks had.
But I think Luffy crew should not only mirrored other pirates crew but also the Marine. Since at the end of the Manga they'll fight each other they need to have enough pirate in their crew to fight against the Marine who organized like a pirate crew with Chief Admiral, Admirals, Vice Admiral, Captains and vice captain. If you look at Kaido crew you can see it's organized the same with him, all stars, tobi roppo, numbers, headliners.
Right apart from Zoro,Luffy, Sanji and Jinbei nobody else can face a marine with the rank of vice-admiral and higher but for the rest they can't. So they have 2 options : 1 another training and 2 recruiting more strong members. That's why Carrot and Yamato have a strong chance to join them since they have a good strengh. Also think the like of Weevil, Enel and Katakuri might join them.
Why Weevil ? Because he's a monster. As strong as WB if we trust Kizaru words. He can't be a true opponent to Luffy since he doesn't seems to be an obstacle to his goal and he is a dictator who needs to be stopped ( like the majority of the opponents he faced ). He's actually under his mom orders who is the real puppet masters. So if Luffy freed from his mom he might joins Luffy.
Why Enel ? we all know Enel. We know he'll be back in the story but since he's been already defeated by Luffy once and we know Luffy devil fruit is the weakness of his another fight between them would be meaningless. Since we all saw his adventure on the moon we know that he has a knowledge that could help the SH to understand the void century. With his mantra he'll an amazing vigil.
Why Katakuri ? after Luffy defeated him we haven't heard a thing about him. During his fight against Luffy we saw that he respects Luffy to the point of laying on his back in front of him at the end. But also at the end of the fight he asked Luffy if he'll come back to WCI to defeat Big Mom. Why would he say that ? Maybe because he wants to be free from her but he can't go like that. Look at Lola who left Big mom. So maybe after Luffy defeat Big Mom Katakuri might also join the SH.
If Yamato, Katakuri and Weevil join the SH crew Luffy would have under his orders the children of all the past yonko which would grant him a big reputation just like the Rocks had.
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Before the time skip even Luffy had a lot of trouble to deal with VA. After the time skip she might become stronger but let’s not forget the Marine also strengthened themselves too. Jinbei said it when they were in the fish man island. Under Akainu they are even more stronger. Look at who are the VA a lot of them were strong contenders to become admiral.
I think she might be between captain - VC level
Before the time skip even Luffy had a lot of trouble to deal with VA. After the time skip she might become stronger but let’s not forget the Marine also strengthened themselves too. Jinbei said it when they were in the fish man island. Under Akainu they are even more stronger. Look at who are the VA a lot of them were strong contenders to become admiral.
I think she might be between captain - VC level
So much underestimation of non ZSJ in this forums...
To respond to this, I believe non-ZSJs (especially Franky, Robin, Brook) can be able to defeat some VAs, the likes of Maynard and Bastille should be an easy work... Some VAs will get a good and tough fights...
But there are a few VAs whom I believe can give a tough fights or even defeat ZSJ like Garp and Tsuru since they aren't really VA tiers...
To respond to this, I believe non-ZSJs (especially Franky, Robin, Brook) can be able to defeat some VAs, the likes of Maynard and Bastille should be an easy work... Some VAs will get a good and tough fights...
But there are a few VAs whom I believe can give a tough fights or even defeat ZSJ like Garp and Tsuru since they aren't really VA tiers...