Current Events The traitor of Egghead island

#62
Would suck too much if it isn't someone who were introduced already.
Knox Rules tend to be bullshit at times but there is major in truth in one of them.
It's true they are meant for detective mysteries but the general gist applies to a general mystery of finding some culprit.
Culprit should always be someone who was introduced to the audience and to have a culprit the audience literally are unable to guess cause we never even seen or heard of them would be insulting.
 
#64
The traitor need be someone who have been on Egghead for the last two months, is able to control the Dome and Sea Beasts and have control on the same lvl or above the Vegapunks over the Seraphin. It must be a Vegapunk


We can assume at least Shaka isnt involved, as there's no reason for he to panic when he was alone looking at the cameras if he was a traitor.

Liilith, York and probably Pythagoras are turned into stone, what can be undone.

Atlas was destroyed when the Dome was closed, but know is ok

Edison is destroyed but can be easly restored.

I really like the ideia of all those 5 Vegapunks being traitors. But If they are all traitors, why they would be doing some things like being turned into stone, sending S-Snake to attack Pythagoras, sending S-Bear and Hawk to kill CP0, they could just use the Seraphin to kill the SH and CP0 without hiding themself if they are all traitors.


Think at the end will be only one of them, and by now everything points to Edison, even If It seems kind random, and pehaps he já working with the WG.
I had to get in contact with a translator over how York said "Hold your Horses" to S Snake in the original.
She was quoting Edison there and I was wondering:
Japanese is weird where you could a form one word using two different words and the entire meaning changes.

So I got this as a reply.

The kanji tei for impérial or emperor is 帝.
The kanji shi for death is 死.
TeiShi but in japanese vocabulary teishi means 2 things. First is low rate of credit (kanjis written differently but exact sound) and second for cessation/stop/not move.
York's word is : 停止せよ
Both kanji 停 and 止 means halt and stop.

But apparently, 停 can also be Tei and 止 can also be Shi?

I was wondering if there was some wordplay at work where you say one thing in japanese but it can also be taken in another way.

Like Edison or York going Teishi to say "Stop" but taking Tei and Shi as seperate and "Emperor" "Death" and found some way to order them to kill disguised as stop.

But my japanese is very limited and apparently, I may have been off too.

So please it with a grain of salt. It was a mere thought I had.
Cause I felt like this would explain how the Seraphim were give an order and nobody knows how or who.
My answer would have been:
They were ordered when Edison told them to stop or when York quoted Edison.

Again, merely thoughts and I gladly retract those if it ends up wrong. Just brainstorming.
 
#68
yes. also king obv wasn't the only person vegapunk experimented on. i hate how luffy immediately liked him and how he's been portrayed as this guy with 'altruistic', 'good-for-humanity' goals and dreams, like free waffles for everyone or whatever the scientific equivalent...

ugly, degenerate cunt
Yeah Oda is very inconsistent with Vegapunk
Pretty sure he was portrayed as someone not good earlier in the story
 
#71
'good' is subjective. i never considered vegapunk a good guy. he has done nothing good as far as i can see. nothing good at all
Yeah morality is a very subjective thing
He’s at the very least in a gray area
He’s not a bad person but some of the things he does might be considered unacceptable for our world
 
#72
Was it ever referred to as a traitor in the manga? Or this just a fan term for this unknown attacker
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It’s the same Vegapunk that was experimenting on young King right?
Vegapunk never experimented on King.

King and Kaido broke out of Punk Hazard more than 30y ago, before Kaido fomed the alliance with Higuarashi and invaded Wano.

While MADS was disbanded and around 22y ago, and just then Vegapunk joined the Marines.

Seems like the Navy had samples from King and Kaido DNA and Vegapunk used It to create the artificial fruit and the Seraphin, but the timeline dont fit he having contact with either Kaido or King.
 
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