Powers & Abilities The voice of all things is NOT Haki. CONFIRMED

[ImmaIvanoM]

A quick reminder of something people might have missed. Seastone prevents devil fruit users from using haki.

It stands to reason sea water also precents devil fruit users from using haki.

And if we assume Luffy is using the voice of all things here,

that means The Voice if all things IS NOT HAKI

 

[nik87]

Nice one. I guess it is the ability of the special chosen ones like Luffytardo and Momotaro.

 

[HA001]

A quick reminder of something people might have missed. Seastone prevents devil fruit users from using haki.

It stands to reason sea water also precents devil fruit users from using haki.

And if we assume Luffy is using the voice of all things here,

that means The Voice if all things IS NOT HAKI

Iirc the vc said it was coo

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Iirc the vc said it was coo

Nope. We have no information about it outside the manga

 

[Finalbeta]

So perhaps even BOAT is not if that proves the case. I admit it didn't exactly sound too similar.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

BOAT

No, its haki. Already proven when Hyogoro describes Ryuo the eact same way as BoAT is described

 

[nik87]

BOAT is a unique sensory ability that could be CoO but has never been repeated after Alabasta.
It is probably saved up for the fight against Shiryu.

 

[Finalbeta]

No, its haki. Already proven when Hyogoro describes Ryuo the eact same way as BoAT is described

Sounds cointerintuitive as a pattern, almost non sensical for how the names and features look. I will look into it better. Eventually the difference can be spot by the notion that BOAT is about moving things and VOAT about talking things. And still BOAT doesn't implicate an object must move but perhaps the breathing is metaphorically implicated as such quirk.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Sounds cointerintuitive as a pattern, almost non sensical for how the names and features look. I will look into it better. Eventually the difference can be spot by the notion that BOAT is about moving things and VOAT about talking things. And still BOAT doesn't implicate an object must move but perhaps the breathing is metaphorically implicated as such quirk.

What in god’s name are you talking about?

 

[Midnight Delight]

Only the Chosen Ones get VOAT

 

[duckman]

Counter point, Luffy has used Haki underwater. Even while being drained. Kraken? Hody? Seastone =/= sea

 

[Finalbeta]

CoO is described as a sixth sense that allows people to sense the presence, strength, and emotions of others, as well as gain limited precognitive abilities.

If we took this into account having BOAT as haki can make a lot of sense, but VOAT is clearly up to debate as well. Also depends on what sensing presence and emotions can implicate, if a merely talkative feature can be factored or not according to Oda. I would say most likely so.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Counter point, Luffy has used Haki underwater. Even while being drained. Kraken? Hody? Seastone =/= sea

He was never submerged enough in any of those situations

 

[duckman]

He was never submerged enough in any of those situations

He was submerged enough for it to drain him. Arguably the water covered far more of him than not.

 

[Afroking]

Both momonosuke and shirahoshi have observation haki label in their Vivre cards.
No reason to assume voat isn't CoO until it is confirmed.

 

[duckman]

He was submerged enough for it to drain him. Arguably the water covered far more of him than not.

Like 10x of Luffys body is outside the bubble.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

He was submerged enough for it to drain him. Arguably the water covered far more of him than not.

But you know there is difterence between seastone and sea water here. If the tip of Luffy’s finger touches seastone, the man is out… Yet Oda even said that Luffy can soak RELATIVELY comfortably in water as long as 2/3 of his body isnt submerged…

So the effect is different in this regard… He was getting drained but he wasnt submerged enough for it to matter. He has to be 2/3 submerged for it to be equivalent to him touching seastone

 

[RYNO]

But you know there is difterence between seastone and sea water here. If the tip of Luffy’s finger touches seastone, the man is out… Yet Oda even said that Luffy can soak RELATIVELY comfortably in water as long as 2/3 of his body isnt submerged…

So the effect is different in this regard… He was getting drained but he wasnt submerged enough for it to matter. He has to be 2/3 submerged for it to be equivalent to him touching seastone

Sea stone takeaway the ability to use their DF fully but luffy can still stretch even being fully in water, so sea stone has different effect than the effect of the sea.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Sounds cointerintuitive as a pattern, almost non sensical for how the names and features look. I will look into it better. Eventually the difference can be spot by the notion that BOAT is about moving things and VOAT about talking things. And still BOAT doesn't implicate an object must move but perhaps the breathing is metaphorically implicated as such quirk.

Well breath of all things isn’t the canonical name. That’s just a fan name

 

[duckman]

But you know there is difterence between seastone and sea water here. If the tip of Luffy’s finger touches seastone, the man is out… Yet Oda even said that Luffy can soak RELATIVELY comfortably in water as long as 2/3 of his body isnt submerged…

So the effect is different in this regard… He was getting drained but he wasnt submerged enough for it to matter. He has to be 2/3 submerged for it to be equivalent to him touching seastone

Um, Luffy's arm was like 10x the size of him. So he was 9/10s submerged. In addition, the sea stone he wore was weaker sea stone that allowed him to move and run freely. In this scene he's being drained just by being there.