General & Others The Wasted Potential of the Underworld in the New World

Which underworld boss do you want to see again?

  • Drug Peclo

  • Giberson

  • Umit

  • Lu feld


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#1
The underworld had enormous potential. It was supposed to be the brokers of an underground world of all kinds of illegal trades in the New World: arms trafficking, human trafficking, and artificial Devil Fruit trafficking… In short, the true hidden bosses of the New World. Their concept was even partially inspired by the dark web, like the livestream on Punk Hazard that resembles redroom.

Yet, since the introduction of these underworld leaders during the Tea Party, nothing has come of it. One would expect them to have bases, influence, and territories, just like the Emperors. But in the end, only Morgans was properly developed: he is a major character in the story, and we know the HQ of his newspaper and his sphere of influence.

The others, however, were poorly utilized and disappointing. Lu Feld was mentioned only once, on a cover page, financing the Mads’ ship. Umit appeared once or twice, showing his company transporting materials for Vegapunk or selling Adam Wood (Adam Wood that Franky could already easily buy in the first part of the Grand Line). These two were barely shown engaging in illegal activities that, in reality, were no more surprising or immoral than legal activities.

As for Drug Peclo and Giberson, they never reappeared in the story. The entire myth of an overpowered underworld, dabbling in illicit and morally dark businesses, completely collapsed. A concept that was dark and full of potential was wasted and extremely poorly developed.
 
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#4
The underworld had enormous potential. It was supposed to be the brokers of an underground world of all kinds of illegal trades in the New World: arms trafficking, human trafficking, and artificial Devil Fruit trafficking… In short, the true hidden bosses of the New World. Their concept was even partially inspired by the dark web, like the livestream on Punk Hazard that resembles redroom.

Yet, since the introduction of these underworld leaders during the Tea Party, nothing has come of it. One would expect them to have bases, influence, and territories, just like the Emperors. But in the end, only Morgans was properly developed: he is a major character in the story, and we know the HQ of his newspaper and his sphere of influence.

The others, however, were poorly utilized and disappointing. Lu Feld was mentioned only once, on a cover page, financing the Mads’ ship. Umit appeared once or twice, showing his company transporting materials for Vegapunk or selling Adam Wood (Adam Wood that Franky could already easily buy in the first part of the Grand Line). These two were barely shown engaging in illegal activities that, in reality, were no more surprising or immoral than legal activities.

As for Drug Peclo and Giberson, they never reappeared in the story. The entire myth of an overpowered underworld, dabbling in illicit and morally dark businesses, completely collapsed. A concept that was dark and full of potential was wasted and extremely poorly developed.
Idk if you know this but I think in the vol 109 SBS Oda basically confirms that he essentially dropped the Underworld and Level 6 escapee plotlines and just gave them to Lucci's groups promotion to CP0

And its actually an unfortunate plothole (for now unless its addressed) because Lucci was already CP0 during Dressrosa, and there Jean Ango tells Luffy he knows where those former Level 6 prisoners are.

O: Yes, the Japanese is a bit weird because of the translation lol. I've included it as-is. Let's go back to when CP9 lost at Enies Lobby. From there, CP9's Independent Report was serialized on the covers, and CP9 was accused of failing their mission. Director Spandam took advantage of that, so CP9 vanished into the wind. That was beginning of their training to become even stronger. Meanwhile, Spandam somehow became the head of CP0 through the influence of his father, Spandine. Then, Lucci and his friends teamed up with Spandine to uncover a criminal conspiracy by Underworld bigwigs and former Level 6 prisoners, and destroyed the organization to stop it. Due to that incident, Lucci and his friends returned to the intelligence service as CP0 agents. Spandine later fell sick lost much of his influence, causing Spandam to be demoted to Lucci's underling.
 
#5
Idk if you know this but I think in the vol 109 SBS Oda basically confirms that he essentially dropped the Underworld and Level 6 escapee plotlines and just gave them to Lucci's groups promotion to CP0

And its actually an unfortunate plothole (for now unless its addressed) because Lucci was already CP0 during Dressrosa, and there Jean Ango tells Luffy he knows where those former Level 6 prisoners are.

O: Yes, the Japanese is a bit weird because of the translation lol. I've included it as-is. Let's go back to when CP9 lost at Enies Lobby. From there, CP9's Independent Report was serialized on the covers, and CP9 was accused of failing their mission. Director Spandam took advantage of that, so CP9 vanished into the wind. That was beginning of their training to become even stronger. Meanwhile, Spandam somehow became the head of CP0 through the influence of his father, Spandine. Then, Lucci and his friends teamed up with Spandine to uncover a criminal conspiracy by Underworld bigwigs and former Level 6 prisoners, and destroyed the organization to stop it. Due to that incident, Lucci and his friends returned to the intelligence service as CP0 agents. Spandine later fell sick lost much of his influence, causing Spandam to be demoted to Lucci's underling.
What the fuck even is Spandine’s position if he can have his son be appointed as HEAD of CP0? Isn’t that a decision made by the Gorosei? This may be an even dumber SBS question than the one about how Snack was sailing around with a RP rubbing lol
 
#6
Idk if you know this but I think in the vol 109 SBS Oda basically confirms that he essentially dropped the Underworld and Level 6 escapee plotlines and just gave them to Lucci's groups promotion to CP0

And its actually an unfortunate plothole (for now unless its addressed) because Lucci was already CP0 during Dressrosa, and there Jean Ango tells Luffy he knows where those former Level 6 prisoners are.

O: Yes, the Japanese is a bit weird because of the translation lol. I've included it as-is. Let's go back to when CP9 lost at Enies Lobby. From there, CP9's Independent Report was serialized on the covers, and CP9 was accused of failing their mission. Director Spandam took advantage of that, so CP9 vanished into the wind. That was beginning of their training to become even stronger. Meanwhile, Spandam somehow became the head of CP0 through the influence of his father, Spandine. Then, Lucci and his friends teamed up with Spandine to uncover a criminal conspiracy by Underworld bigwigs and former Level 6 prisoners, and destroyed the organization to stop it. Due to that incident, Lucci and his friends returned to the intelligence service as CP0 agents. Spandine later fell sick lost much of his influence, causing Spandam to be demoted to Lucci's underling.
Thanks for the info, I didn't know that. It reminds me of when he talked about the Rocky Port incident in one SBS, Zoro's family tree, and the original concept for Punk Hazard, which was supposed to be two separate arcs: one on a fire island and one on an ice island. People often say that One Piece is too long, but in reality, it's the opposite: Oda's manga is too short for him to tell everything.
 
#7
Idk if you know this but I think in the vol 109 SBS Oda basically confirms that he essentially dropped the Underworld and Level 6 escapee plotlines and just gave them to Lucci's groups promotion to CP0

And its actually an unfortunate plothole (for now unless its addressed) because Lucci was already CP0 during Dressrosa, and there Jean Ango tells Luffy he knows where those former Level 6 prisoners are.

O: Yes, the Japanese is a bit weird because of the translation lol. I've included it as-is. Let's go back to when CP9 lost at Enies Lobby. From there, CP9's Independent Report was serialized on the covers, and CP9 was accused of failing their mission. Director Spandam took advantage of that, so CP9 vanished into the wind. That was beginning of their training to become even stronger. Meanwhile, Spandam somehow became the head of CP0 through the influence of his father, Spandine. Then, Lucci and his friends teamed up with Spandine to uncover a criminal conspiracy by Underworld bigwigs and former Level 6 prisoners, and destroyed the organization to stop it. Due to that incident, Lucci and his friends returned to the intelligence service as CP0 agents. Spandine later fell sick lost much of his influence, causing Spandam to be demoted to Lucci's underling.

That happened before WCI, the Underworld plotline is not done yet :pepebusi:

About the level 6 escapees, I still hope most of them joined Ochoku. The guy needed underlings like that to face Blackbeard. Lucci and the others may have defeated them after the conquest of Beehive
 
#8
That happened before WCI, the Underworld plotline is not done yet :pepebusi:

About the level 6 escapees, I still hope most of them joined Ochoku. The guy needed underlings like that to face Blackbeard. Lucci and the others may have defeated them after the conquest of Beehive
We can only hope, but maybe thats the Burned Scar Man and his crew? Theres that option too if hes a new character and not an ally.

Edit: Theres also the question of Stussy. Clearly she was CP0 and an Underworld Emperor, of which Oda sort of has been avoiding too.
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Thanks for the info, I didn't know that. It reminds me of when he talked about the Rocky Port incident in one SBS, Zoro's family tree, and the original concept for Punk Hazard, which was supposed to be two separate arcs: one on a fire island and one on an ice island. People often say that One Piece is too long, but in reality, it's the opposite: Oda's manga is too short for him to tell everything.
Fingers crossed theres still space for it somewhere, after this arc. Its just tough to see how atm.
 
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