General & Others "The Yonko Have Better Portrayal Than The Admirals"
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Bro thinks a YC2 is doing shit to an admiral, while needing ACoC + DF + Physical strength to matchup an old ass geezer out of his prime using just ACoC + Physical strength.
Luzan fans sum else.
Luzan fans sum else.
Not FA worthy
Kuzan is the weakest C3 for 3 reasons
1. Crippled
2. Took off the marine coat
3. Is Garp's protege (@Elder Lee Hung approved)
1. Crippled
2. Took off the marine coat
3. Is Garp's protege (@Elder Lee Hung approved)
Yea I just don't know how people read pre-TS and came out with Kuzan being superior to Borsalino.
Oda establishes Ray being on same level as WB, then proceeds to give Borsalino the feat of going back and forth against that Rayleigh and putting him in the advantageous situation. A feat that remained unrivaled throughout the entire pre-TS.
In the MF arc, the man goes out of his way to give Kizaru & Akainu similar moments of feet vs bisento. Has Borsalino be the one who faced off against Marco, while other mans went against Jozu.
Like cool, Kuzan wanted to be the FA, Borsalino didn't... That doesn't say jackshit. He's inferior in feats, he's inferior in portrayal, Oda goes to remove him from the Marines to bring in to Mfs to establish the strongest marines in history. Dudes like Smoker/Fujitora/ and even GB are about to start doing shit that's gone make Kuzan look like an even bigger fraud, when they start making the changes they want to see happen while being Marines. (Smoker vs Kuzan thread incoming, been working on it for a bit now).
Oda establishes Ray being on same level as WB, then proceeds to give Borsalino the feat of going back and forth against that Rayleigh and putting him in the advantageous situation. A feat that remained unrivaled throughout the entire pre-TS.
In the MF arc, the man goes out of his way to give Kizaru & Akainu similar moments of feet vs bisento. Has Borsalino be the one who faced off against Marco, while other mans went against Jozu.
Like cool, Kuzan wanted to be the FA, Borsalino didn't... That doesn't say jackshit. He's inferior in feats, he's inferior in portrayal, Oda goes to remove him from the Marines to bring in to Mfs to establish the strongest marines in history. Dudes like Smoker/Fujitora/ and even GB are about to start doing shit that's gone make Kuzan look like an even bigger fraud, when they start making the changes they want to see happen while being Marines. (Smoker vs Kuzan thread incoming, been working on it for a bit now).
No doubt, but I don't care about ex-Marines. He chose to be a pirate, so will treat him as one.
Rather spend time hyping up Tensei, Chaton, Gion than a YC2.
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Rather spend time hyping up Tensei, Chaton, Gion than a YC2.
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He is weaker than the current Admiral tho thats for sure
Real talk, I'm putting Shiryuu over him, mainly due to having high rating of Magellan & Shiryuu (I had em borderline top tiers back in ID days) + now Shiryuu having a DF. And ofc, having stated Shiryuu will stay about relative to Teach.
But at the very least both should be close together (Kuzan-Shiryuu), for me, just depends on if Oda wants to put Zoro > Smoker, or Smoker > Zoro by that time.
But at the very least both should be close together (Kuzan-Shiryuu), for me, just depends on if Oda wants to put Zoro > Smoker, or Smoker > Zoro by that time.
I don't hate Kuzan at all, I just have him as the weakest top tier. It's like JoNdule and them claiming I hate Kaido or BM cause I have em as the weakest Yonko. No he's just the weakest Marine Top Tier, he's not superior to Garp, Sengoku or the present top dogs of the Marines. That's about it. Where as his fans would have you believe his portrayal is out of this world or he has some insane feats compared to others, but he doesn't. Especially the ones who think he's some sort of an equal to Saka... like no bruh.
- His physical strength we don't know
- His swordsmanship is a mystery
- His DF is actually top tier for combat purposes
- His experience and Skill are outclassed based on what exactly??? They're relatively the same age range.
-> Him and Teach both meet on equal terms, akin to Roronoa & Luffy
-> Since then him & teach both attained DFs. Teach's DF compliments his Yami Yami best. Shiryuu's DF on the other hand compliments Swordsmanship insanely.
-> Teach views Shiryuu in the same light as he views Kuzan...
Y'all just underrate how strong Magellan & Shiryuu are. They're gonna be borderline top tiers pre-TS at the very least with how cautious the World Government is, in particular after Shiki's escape. Imo, the combined threat of Shiryuu+ Magellan should be capable of handling any top tier of Shiki's caliber which is same caliber as PrimeRoger/Newgate/Sengoku/Garp/etc, or at the very least be able to even em out.
Teach's crew >> Rock's Crew
Big Chin man on Teach's crew > Big Chin man on Rock's crew
All Ima say. But this is really just about disagreement on Shiryuu's standing, rather than anything related to Kuzan's standing.
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Yea the mf that helped the cripple gang up on the OG, is def. relative to Teach akin to Roronoa and Monkey boy.
- His physical strength we don't know
- His swordsmanship is a mystery
- His DF is actually top tier for combat purposes
- His experience and Skill are outclassed based on what exactly??? They're relatively the same age range.
-> Him and Teach both meet on equal terms, akin to Roronoa & Luffy
-> Since then him & teach both attained DFs. Teach's DF compliments his Yami Yami best. Shiryuu's DF on the other hand compliments Swordsmanship insanely.
-> Teach views Shiryuu in the same light as he views Kuzan...
Y'all just underrate how strong Magellan & Shiryuu are. They're gonna be borderline top tiers pre-TS at the very least with how cautious the World Government is, in particular after Shiki's escape. Imo, the combined threat of Shiryuu+ Magellan should be capable of handling any top tier of Shiki's caliber which is same caliber as PrimeRoger/Newgate/Sengoku/Garp/etc, or at the very least be able to even em out.
Teach's crew >> Rock's Crew
Big Chin man on Teach's crew > Big Chin man on Rock's crew
All Ima say. But this is really just about disagreement on Shiryuu's standing, rather than anything related to Kuzan's standing.
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Yea the mf that helped the cripple gang up on the OG, is def. relative to Teach akin to Roronoa and Monkey boy.
His raw striking power is equal to that of Garp
Shiryu spent the last 2 decades executing chained up prison rats
Kuzan was an actual Admiral, his 10 days deathmatch with Akainu is worth the experience of the entirety of the BBPs
They are pretty strong for a high tiers, but its still a fact that Magellan dropped down on one knee from a pre ts Luffy strike
Shiryu was on all fours huffing from one of them Sengoku shockwaves, thats not the portrayal one looks for in a top tier
They are just worlds apart in literally every aspect of strength
No one really gives two craps about Shiryu, Garp doesn't even know his name. Kuzan is a different story
Shiryu can pose a threat to Zoro in many ways, not all of them have to be clean. They are the scummiest crew for a reason.
Shiryu spent the last 2 decades executing chained up prison rats
Kuzan was an actual Admiral, his 10 days deathmatch with Akainu is worth the experience of the entirety of the BBPs
They are pretty strong for a high tiers, but its still a fact that Magellan dropped down on one knee from a pre ts Luffy strike
Shiryu was on all fours huffing from one of them Sengoku shockwaves, thats not the portrayal one looks for in a top tier
They are just worlds apart in literally every aspect of strength
No one really gives two craps about Shiryu, Garp doesn't even know his name. Kuzan is a different story
Shiryu can pose a threat to Zoro in many ways, not all of them have to be clean. They are the scummiest crew for a reason.
