Speculations There's too much rape in One Piece

#1
The writer wants you to think the Celestial Dragons rape a lot. It's a plot device he likes to use, now.

It's uncomfortable that it's expected to happen regularly. Garling hiding a kid was one thing, but now that the author has suggested they go through convoluted plots to do it beyond what was assumed with the slavery stuff is a bit crazy.

Before Ginny, there was only assumptions about rape and a single instance of it doesn't constitute a pattern.

Garling didn't rape, but he killed the woman and tried to take the kids. A similar thing happens to Candel in Shuri's case, but Candel was raped.

The writer has told us to "read between the lines" as adult readers. This means we should be assuming Doflamingo raped Viola too now that a pattern has developed. The same goes for Nefertari Lili and Imu.

That's 4 cases of it. Viola, Ginny, Candel, and Lili.

At this point, it could be said that the Devil Fruits and Haki are flimsy pretexts for sexual violence.
 
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#2
I guess he takes inspiration from real life...

Celestial Dragons would have a eugenics program like that set up of course. And then it's up to selected individuals to go make a baby. Garling seemed to do it right, until the end... I guess they're free to do as they will, since they're CDs. Some are monsters, some are worse.

Also there plots are not so convoluted. They come and take what they want. It's the resistance of the people they have to face. And I guess they're not to bothered with it but don't want to nuke everything all the time so they plot a little.
 
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#5
This actually made me see the story under a new angle lol...

Celestial Dragons represent total freedom. Sure they have a world government and a marine system and a tax system and hunts and so on... But they themselves are absolutely free to do as they please. Free to take, rape, kill, and so on.

With Imu's devil theme, it makes me think of stuff like Crowley's "Do as thou wilt" which has been perverted since a long time ago.

And on the other hand you have Luffy's freedom to live I guess.
 
#6
We dont know for sure what happened. Candelle was potrayed as a strong woman,i dont think she could be easily raped.

Maybe she was consensual for some reason,maybe she is not even the mother,maybe she is evil,we dont know

Imagine if she was Domi Reversed specifically to sleep with the Holy Knight! I guess that would still count as rape,as you remove the real will of a person
 
#11
You know what else?

Actually guessing that Candel was violated and that the 1000 slaves being a lie to get Shuri was going to happen was based on the fans wanting it to happen because it would be "hype" and "peak One Piece."

These guys didn't provide a bunch of clues because there was actually not much reason to believe rape had occurred. The only time it ever happened before was with Ginny. There was no established pattern.

Without the established pattern, it becomes a guess. They were motivated to conclude that rape was involved because they thought it would be cool. This speaks volumes.
 
#14
Oda is portraying the worst of mankind history
That's kind of the issue I have with it. Honestly, rape is bad, but I'm wondering why it's a main focus? There are other evil things they could be doing instead of these soap opera relationship dramas.

Like idk... Enslaving thousands of people and forcing them to make elevators work through sheer physical labor using pulleys and drawstrings.
 
#15
with the proportions one piece women have it is no wonder, many users here would even leave their mother's basement if 90% of women from 16-60 had the emily ratakowski build
 
#16
The worst consequence of editors letting Oda run unchecked.

Ginney - wants a man she can't have, finds herself unprotected against forcible impregnation, dies of celestial AIDS.

Shakky - pays for the crime of only wanting one man by being kidnapped and offered as a prize. She's only recognized when he essentially wins her, but it was somehow necessary to add that he cheats on her constantly.

Ida - clings to a man she can't have for decades, gets killed for it.

Magnolia - apparently loves this creep, but is abruptly killed after birthing the children and fulfilling her "purpose."

Candelle - wants a man she can't have, finds herself unprotected against forcible impregnation, dies of celestial AIDS. The guy did take her in as a consolation though, yippee.

Shuri - wants a man she can't have, finds herself unprotected against possession and serves as a tool for decades

The thing is that it's a fantasy for adolescents. Not only is there no obligation to write these things, but there's arguably a responsibility to do better
 

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#17
One Piece is a manga that uses real world inspiration for its world.

Oda is not being subtle with the Celestial Dragons. This is a highly political series.

If people think that was is going on in One Piece has nothing to do with real world events, let me fill you in:

Oda is a pervert who hates rape and slavery, and he's using his series to call out the IRL trash he detests.

You can tell because rape has never been used as a gag in this series, even with Big Mom. Pound HAS gags associated with him, but, as a man raped by Big Mom, Oda has consistently shown him to be a victim who is trying to escape the weight of a Yonkou's tyranny in order to see his kids again.

If Oda was fetishizing rape, I would criticize him, but he hasn't done that, so, I'm okay with how he's handling things.
Garling didn't rape.

He had normal relationship. Shanks mom was even looking forward to meet him after he pumped and dumped her
We know that Imu's orders literally warp people's minds. If Imu gives you an order, your brain will reorder itself to make sense of it and justify Imu's decision.

I honestly believe Garling truly loved Magnolia, and argued with Imu about killing her, but Imu refused to allow a Davy to be his wife. We've seen from Ginny that Celestial Dragons can make children with slaves, but, I really don't think women outside of noble birth are actually able to become the wives of Celestial Dragons.

I believed Garling was ordered to kill the woman he loved, Magnolia, and couldn't resist the order. Still a GIANT douche, but, for reasons.

It's the opposite of the SMILE Fruit, where Toko laughed and smiled at her own father's death.

Garling's been so robbed of his humanity by Imu's powers, he couldn't even cry when forced to murder the woman he loved. This is my running theory.
 
#18
One Piece is a manga that uses real world inspiration for its world.

Oda is not being subtle with the Celestial Dragons. This is a highly political series.

If people think that was is going on in One Piece has nothing to do with real world events, let me fill you in:

Oda is a pervert who hates rape and slavery, and he's using his series to call out the IRL trash he detests.

You can tell because rape has never been used as a gag in this series
The problem with invoking the real world is that this is a fantasy that he controls entirely. If he omitted rape entirely, it wouldn't make the series more or less realistic than it already was from the beginning.

You can tell that obviously, the abusers are intended to be the very worst people. But Oda isn't calling anyone out... none of the abusers are held accountable. We don't even know who did that to Ginney.

And as for gags, the "panties" gag is not a good look for a protagonist in the context of what happens. Brook is a creep, but it's okay because he doesn't touch them lol. Okay Japan
 
#20
Ya i am not really happy with this direction , i think Oda wants to add more darker tone to the manga . He wants Readers to feel anger towards Imu and his cronies. They are not your typical troup villain , Oda knows just punching Imu wont be enough he is the reason behind the misery .
 
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