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Light D Lamperouge

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Jo_Ndule said:
Lol scientific nonsense
This is Manga not some headcanons

I'm writing from Oda's point of view.
Come back with arguments

As of now your theories and headcanons are dead.

If zoro didnt go all out then sanji also didnt... yet Ofa doesn't care, he showed us that both need a new gear in order to battle stronger dudes and possibly wins.
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You accusing people of head canon, laughable. This is manga, and in this manga Zoro has not been pushed so far in the NW. We have not seen any new power from his training, besides haki which everyone showed. Heck, we still did not see his biggest pu pre ts, Asura, introduced, so your whole thread is mute moron.



To be able to write from someone's point of view, you first need to know how to read, then how to write, then to read that, and not a special copy you get, but the actual one which we all read.

The only one using head canon and bias is you. I have not seen anything you said/made that does not have bias in it, or is not utterly laughable.
 
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Main point of thread was already proven invalid because it is manga fact that Zoro hasn't shown Asura.

Sanji for sure showed his ultimate move as he claimed himself in FI and had multiple opportunities to show new tech but still never did..including hardening. This is why Oda provided him with the RS which boosts all his stats and adds invisibility.

Now what is interesting is that the same people who claim Zoro is not strong enough to face YC characters also claim that Zoro will reach there with a new sword. Failing to realize that a new sword will not make Zoro faster nor increase his physical strength and endurance and Haki etc.


Now Oda has made it more interesting that Zoro didn't lose his weakest sword but lost his strongest sword and this is being replaced with another sword of less importance but maybe having better cutting ability. So it fails to be a power up
 
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Inspector_Mu

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Light D Lamperouge said:
:gokulaugh:

You accusing people of head canon, laughable. This is manga, and in this manga Zoro has not been pushed so far in the NW. We have not seen any new power from his training, besides haki which everyone showed. Heck, we still did not see his biggest pu pre ts, Asura, introduced, so your whole thread is mute moron.



To be able to write from someone's point of view, you first need to know how to read, then how to write, then to read that, and not a special copy you get, but the actual one which we all read.

The only one using head canon and bias is you dumbass. I have not seen anything you said/made that does not have bias in it, or is not utterly laughable.
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Sanji also wasnt pushed to his limits
Can you show me where sanji had extreme diff fight? Nope
But Oda knows that sanji with his skills isnt ready for commanders and up , so he gives him RS

Once again you believe Zoro didnt show everything but tell me what will he accomplish ?
If he needs signature moves and mid efforts for Pica/KamazouKiller , you think with Ashura or whatever he will beat Jack/Cracker? Lol when luffy needed hours and helps ... even tho he had G4 >which is above Ashurs or whatever zoro/sanji have or will have.
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Geo said:
Main point of thread was already proven invalid because it is manga fact that Zoro hasn't shown Asura.

Sanji for sure showed his ultimate move as he claimed himself in FI and had multiple opportunities to show new tech but still never did..including hardening. This is why Oda provided him with the RS which boosts all his stats and adds invisibility.

Now what is interesting is that the same people who claim Zoro is not strong enough to face YC characters also claim that Zoro will reach there with a new sword. Failing to realize that a new sword will not make Zoro faster nor increase his physical strength and endurance and Haki etc.


Now Oda has made it more interesting that Zoro didn't lose his weakest sword but lost his strongest sword and this is being replaced with another sword of less importance but maybe having better cutting ability. So it fails to be a power up
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A new powerful as Enma makes Zoro Duke level to match base commanders ... with another push, he will extreme diff.
 
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#44
#44
Jo_Ndule said:
Sanji also wasnt pushed to his limits
Can you show me where sanji had extreme diff fight? Nope
But Oda knows that sanji with his skills isnt ready for commanders and up , so he gives him RS

Once again you believe Zoro didnt show everything but tell me what will he accomplish ?
If he needs signature moves and mid efforts for Pica/KamazouKiller , you think with Ashura or whatever he will beat Jack/Cracker? Lol when luffy needed hours and helps ... even tho he had G4 >which is above Ashurs or whatever zoro/sanji have or will have.
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A new powerful as Enma makes Zoro Duke level to match base commanders ... with another push, he will extreme diff.
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My boy base zoro is ready for commanders ashura low diffs them
 
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Light D Lamperouge

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#45
#45
Jo_Ndule said:
Sanji also wasnt pushed to his limits
Can you show me where sanji had extreme diff fight? Nope
But Oda knows that sanji with his skills isnt ready for commanders and up , so he gives him RS

Once again you believe Zoro didnt show everything but tell me what will he accomplish ?
If he needs signature moves and mid efforts for Pica/KamazouKiller , you think with Ashura or whatever he will beat Jack/Cracker? Lol when luffy needed hours and helps ... even tho he had G4 >which is above Ashurs or whatever zoro/sanji have or will have.
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I think it has been explained multiple times to you in this very thread why Sanji was given a RS. It was also explained to you why your thread does not make sense.

From the looks of it Zoro will fight King, and/or be involved in the Kaido fight, and before you make the baseless absurd claim, no Zoro is not getting a special magic tier 7 sword designed to harm Kaido, he is getting a sword that thanks to Oden's haki and skills cut Kaido. He mid diffed Killer, a YC4 by your own admission, in a 2 vs 1 situation while missing his strongest sword. Now imagine three sword Zoro, now imagine Asura Zoro, now imagine new ts pu Zoro. Cracker was a bad match up for Luffy, Luffy is a time based fighter with his G4, and Cracker is a defense oriented fighter, which is why Luffy needed help, Luffy later beat Katakuri, who is >>Cracker. Match ups matter in One Piece, it is the reason why Luffy beat Enel.

Stop repeating the same debunked shit, start reading the manga, and do not quote me until you have something meaningful to say, and judging from your post history, that seems like it will never happen.
 
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Light D Lamperouge said:
I think it has been explained multiple times to you in this very thread why Sanji was given a RS. It was also explained to you why your thread does not make sense.

From the looks of it Zoro will fight King, and/or be involved in the Kaido fight, and before you make the baseless absurd claim, no Zoro is not getting a special magic tier 7 sword designed to harm Kaido, he is getting a sword that thanks to Oden's haki and skills cut Kaido. He mid diffed Killer, a YC4 by your own admission, in a 2 vs 1 situation while missing his strongest sword. Now imagine three sword Zoro, now imagine Asura Zoro, now imagine new ts pu Zoro. Cracker was a bad match up for Luffy, Luffy is a time based fighter with his G4, and Cracker is a defense oriented fighter, which is why Luffy needed help, Luffy later beat Katakuri, who is >>Cracker. Match ups matter in One Piece, it is the reason why Luffy beat Enel.

Stop repeating the same debunked shit, start reading the manga, and do not quote me until you have something meaningful to say, and judging from your post history, that seems like it will never happen.
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I mean didn t nodule said that killer fought kaido for a period but grandmaster zoro one shoted killer lmao
 
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Light D Lamperouge

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Zowo said:
I mean didn t nodule said that killer fought kaido for a period but grandmaster zoro one shoted killer lmao
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He did, Kamazou was a fodder according to Ndule before his reveal as Killer, then he was YC4 but nerfed and an extreme diff battle for Zoro.
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Jo_Ndule said:
new powerful as Enma makes Zoro Duke level to match base commanders ... with another push, he will extreme diff.
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How will it make him match base commanders? Isn't his speed the same? Isn't his physical strength the same? Isn't his durability and Haki still the same? So how does it propel him to commander level?
In addition, he is losing a legendary sword and gaining another legendary sword. So how does that figure into a power up?
 
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Light D Lamperouge

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Geo said:
How will it make him match base commanders? Isn't his speed the same? Isn't his physical strength the same? Isn't his durability and Haki still the same? So how does it propel him to commander level?
In addition, he is losing a legendary sword and gaining another legendary sword. So how does that figure into a power up?
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According to Noodles-for-brain, it is a tier 7 magic sword, that gives its wielder a boost in all stats, and is magically designed to counter Kaido, but if Zoro faces King, it was designed to counter King as well.
 
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Inspector_Mu

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Zowo said:
My boy base zoro is ready for commanders ashura low diffs them
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Yeah in fanfictions
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nonsense and biased

if you dont need sanji extreme battle to judge if he was pushed to his limits or not then you also sont need zoro to have extreme battle in order to judge

in fact zoro endurance and durability was pushed to his limits vs Nerfed Killer . Can't withstand one blpw
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" We dont need extreme battle..."
Yet " we haven't seen zoro in extreme battle yet..."
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Big LOL
 
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Jo_Ndule said:
you dont need sanji extreme battle to judge if he was pushed to his limits or not then you also sont need zoro to have extreme battle in order to judge

in fact zoro endurance and durability was pushed to his limits vs Nerfed Killer . Can't withstand one blpw
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Never said we need Zoro to have extreme diff match. It isn't necessary. We know for a fact that he hasn't used Asura so it is invalid to claim he has gone all out.
 
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Zoro and sanji definitely haven't shown every thing. They have been in a perpetual luffy vs hody state. They have been serious enough to to use haki and take a fight seriously but not go all out. Why?because they haven't needed to or weren't given a chance to.

- Before sanji would need to get more serious vs vergo the match was interrupted and both ran. With mingo he got trapped so couldn't show anything more. After these 2 its been either the characters are to weak for sanji to go all out or he's in a situation where it much smarter to run than try and go all out and get captured/die. I mean he's only used CoA haki once and we don't even know what level either forms are at cuz he hasn't been tested.

- zoro it pretty much been a fodder walk. He hasn't fought anyone that wasn't 1 shot potential and only used hardened CoA haki twice. Only person who wasn't was fuji and they got interrupted both times and the other time was off paneled. There's no way that this is going out for him when he's pretty much has just been using up graded pts moves. You telling me all the time skip he did was just weight lifting and a bit of haki and didn't even develop or learn anything new from mihawk? Also along the way forgot asura?

- luffy as i said since g4 got introduced came out of the time skip more well rounded but with more holes. He had to master g2/g3 ( where zoro and sanji didn't have big draw backs with dj or asura), learn all 3 haki ( where zoro and sanji only needed to learn 2), learn g4 and its variants( where zoro and ans sanji have no equivalent), then make g4 usable and not get him killed after 2 mins, and on top these of splitting his time getting physically stronger. He had to spilt more of his training time than zoro and sanji which made him have more holes but be more versatile which he greatly improved through fights. Zoro and sanji haven't really shown much of anything except haki and HM so they can't possibly have gon all out.
 
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We didn't forget what some people said on the previous forum ! :amazing: like zoro being veteran lvl, heck never he will fight a yc! King is impossible for zoro :pepedoffy:
Now little by little, we have "he got a sword so can fight against yonkou commander " and after that "he could extreme diff them" because it was one week ago.
They are really smart :madmonk:
 
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The new world has been a walk in the park for Zoro until Killer, or better his own naivety due to the lack of a real challenge, luckily for him Killer was an alarm ring and when he took it seriously Killer was soon dispatched. Let's say that until now Zoro has been brought to mid diff at best. Shown all my ass, Oda needs to deliver a serious fight for Zoro and this must be the place.

About the swords Enma is at best a suitable replacement. Shusui was the sword of the "sword god", maybe the strongest swordsman in history. Hyori offered his dad's sword because it is one of the few in Wano that can match the quality of Shusui. Otherwise she could have iffred a weaker one or ask the tengu blacksmith for one. Plus Zoro can work on Enma to make it black, on Shusui he can not. It is really interesting the idea that a swordsman can improve his sword with his will and effort.
 
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nik87 said:
Noodle, Erkan and Chrono competing for the position of forum's main jester.
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By ''jester'' you mean people who are not Zoro fanboys like you and people who are not afraid of zoro wankers like you? :gokulaugh:
nik87 said:
>Zoro has shown everything
>Zoro didnt show Asura
Automatically makes your statement wrong.
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Asura is a single attack technique, not a fighting mode like Gear 2 or Gear 4.

Zoro's problem so far wasn't the attack power, it was his speed and CoO Haki, and stamina/durability/strength level. Asura wouldn't make any difference against Killer or Pica, since his problem wasn't the attack power. :myman:

The same shit with mihawk, the guy fails to hit pre-TS Luffy but cuts down a gigantic iceberg. :milaugh:
 
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