Break Week Thoughts on Sanji having higher First bounty than Kaido?

#42
1st - comparing on How old they was

2nd - how many events/sails they had before got the bounty? Are both the same like 2 events (arlong, croc)
'Hancock has 1st bounty on 1st sail higher than 70m / 77m'
What the kuja do is attack pirate and marine ships and loot them.. so a single campaign can involve multiple feats..

sanji's was just 1 event

and Kaido was already known as a brute before that and he got a bounty just by breaking out consistently from warships
 
#43
Correction:

1. Infiltrated and deactivated high level Cipher Poll filled Sea Train with high level assets on board.

2. Defeated Jabra.

3. Closed the Gate of Justice, resulting in the Buster Call's failure.

Sanji's first bounty of 77m is for his STRENGTH and BRAIN. His 77m is for those 3 feats. So it's safe to assume that for those 77m, a minimum of 26mil is for his strength alone (1 of the 3 feats).

For defeating Kaku alone, Enies Lobby's Zoro went from 60m to 120m, which means Kaku worth 60m. Let's say Jabra worth a bit less than that.

In conclusion, Enies Lobby's Sanji 77 mil is for both of his strength feat and brain/tactical feat.
In actuality, his strength feat alone is only worth less than 60mil in Enies Lobby (because Jabra is lower than Kaku).

To reflect the parallels with Zoro, Sanji's actual first bounty (for STRENGTH) would be less than 60mil (Jabra's worth and lower than Zoro's first bounty).
1. Sea Train

Yes, like I said, a minimum (1 of 3). Our statements doesn't contradict each other.
The train in actuality is both strength and brain feat, because even CP9 is amazed Sanji's ability to get onboard.
So, a minimum 1/3 is Strength feat, and a maximum 1.5/3 or half of it is brain feat.

In reality it's safe to say half brain & half strength feat, it's the core of Sanji's persona.

2. Gate of Justice

Let me make this clear. Just because something isn't shown, doesn't mean it's not there.

So are you saying, on an important site such as Enies Lobby, some important mechanism to open and close an important facility, is not guarded by some Marine?

But there's no Marine in there because they all evacuate?
We don't know that. It's possible the mechanism is located somewhere else.

How can the Marine know it's Sanji?
Again, it's an important mechanism, giving it benefits of the doubt, like it having a den-den mushi around is reasonable.
 
#45
big mom with 5 years with no fight training just literally a fat home girl = 50.000.000
kaido fomer soldier with 13 years = 70.000.000
sanji with 19 years after being part in two events that took down wg big names = 77.000.000

raw number does not matter when the background is so different. big mom first bounty is lower than the other 2 but is the most impressive.
kaido first bounty is tame compared but is still impressive because he had no history against the wg so that bounty is a reflection of just how strong he is.
sanji first bounty is big but is reasonable compared to the other two when you consider the mugiwara already had impressive history of opposing the wg including defeating a shichibukai.
 
#54
Fax but point to noted is that Robin sunk warships in her childhood..and that's ridiculous..
the WG didn't even know who sanji was until enies lobby
and he got a 77 mil bounty
in terms of potential that's insane..

that's the only arc he ( one of the 3 core fighters) got a bounty... if he just got 25mil more he'd be a supernova atm
Sanji was worthy of being a supernova, but Oda decided to not go that route.
 
#58
Sanji's first bounty of 77m is for his STRENGTH and BRAIN. His 77m is for those 3 feats. So it's safe to assume that for those 77m, a minimum of 26mil is for his strength alone (1 of the 3 feats).

For defeating Kaku alone, Enies Lobby's Zoro went from 60m to 120m, which means Kaku worth 60m. Let's say Jabra worth a bit less than that.

In conclusion, Enies Lobby's Sanji 77 mil is for both of his strength feat and brain/tactical feat.
In actuality, his strength feat alone is only worth less than 60mil in Enies Lobby (because Jabra is lower than Kaku).

To reflect the parallels with Zoro, Sanji's actual first bounty (for STRENGTH) would be less than 60mil (Jabra's worth and lower than Zoro's first bounty).
It doesn't work like that. Otherwise, we can also say Doflamingo is only worth 100 mil given Luffy's bounty went from 400 mil to 500 mil.

Zoro's 60 mil bounty represents his strength (he defeated 100 bounty hunters alone and Daz Bones)
Zoro's 120 mil bounty takes into account his first feats of arms AND his involvement in Enies Lobby's destruction (not sure the WG knows Zoro defeated Kaku for the reason I will give for Sanji later). The 120 mil bounty includes all Zoro's feats of arms until then. And not just 60 mil for a thing and 60 mil for another thing.
To make myself clear, imagine bounties like circles. The 60 mil bounty is a circle and the 120 mil bounty is the 60 mil circle which became bigger.
The 120 mil bounty is not just the additon of two 60 mil circle you put side by side like you seem to understand, but is a circle which becomes always bigger the more you commit criminal acts.

For Sanji (like for Zoro), it's not even certain the WG knows Sanji defeated Jabra given there was no witnesses. And Jabra became a fugitive after that so no chance he could have made a report at the time Sanji received his 1st bounty.
Sanji's 1st bounty is for his involvement in Enies Lobby's destruction and his raid in the Sea Train against CP agents (some was well known like Wanze and Jerry). With that, Sanji was able to be acknowledged as a main fighter in Straw Hat crew who was finally in there from the start and so, the WG started to take him more seriously (explaining this pretty high 1st bounty for him).
 
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