Questions & Mysteries Timeskip Incoming ~ Time Dilation.

[OykotsTreasure]

The biggest problem with the time dilation theory is the existence of Mother Carmel.
https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Carmel

Mother Carmel lived on Elbaph for most of her life. And in that time, she seemed to age like any normal human would. Not slower. Not faster. Just seemingly the normal amount. She lived 50 years on Elbaph, and she noticeably aged by around 50 years, as far as we can tell.

The same goes for Scopper. He's around 70 years old. And he looks like a 70 year old in this world. He's not noticeably older or younger than he should be.

So, if there is some sort of time dilation happening, it's not happening in the areas that most Giants live in. Maybe there could be some sort of time dilation in the Heaven/Astral Layer? But, the top of Yggdrasil doesn't really look unusual. The top of the World Tree just looks like a regular (if giant) tree. So, if the time dilation is happening up there, it's not affecting the tree, as far as we can tell.

Personally, I think the time dilation theory is a non-starter. But, who knows? I guess Oda could retcon it in, if he really wanted to. I just don't see any proof for it, myself. It's a fun idea to justify a training arc, but I just don't think Oda is planning on going that way with it.

 

[MonsterKaido]

The concept is interesting but I doubt it.

 

[Topi Jerami]

Mihawk call Shanks an one arm has been in front of his entire crew and nothing happened to him. There's no benefit to fighting or beating Shanks anymore.

Bro, Higuma poured beer on Shanks' face in front of his entire crew and nothing happened to him.
Did the Red Hairs treat Mihawk as if he was Higuma?

 

[Kōri no kokyū]

Bro, Higuma poured beer on Shanks' face in front of his entire crew and nothing happened to him.

He's dead.

That's why you need to read.

 

[Topi Jerami]

He's dead.

That's why you need to read.

He's dead and it has nothing to do with pouring beer on Shanks. Bring your punching bag home pls @Sentinel

 

[Kōri no kokyū]

He's dead and it has nothing to do with pouring beer on Shanks. Bring your punching bag home pls @Sentinel

Oh so you can read and understand that but can't understand why Mihawk doesn't fight Shanks anymore.

Selectice resding at its finest.
- Higuma insults Shanks
- Shanks Does nothing ,
- Luffy takes action because of Shanks
- Higuma ends up eaten by Sea monster while Red Hair crew chasing.

I can twist it as many time as you want until your ass understand that.


He's politely sitting in silence because of his inability to do anything.

 

[Topi Jerami]

Oh so you can read and understand that but can't understand why Mihawk doesn't fight Shanks anymore.

Selectice resding at its finest.
- Higuma insults Shanks
- Shanks Does nothing ,
- Luffy takes action because of Shanks
- Higuma ends up eaten by Sea monster while Red Hair crew chasing.

I can twist it as many time as you want until your ass understand that.


He's politely sitting in silence because of his inability to do anything.

Mihawk doesn't fight Shanks anymore at MF because he went home.
I agreed to fight Whitebeard but I never agreed to fight "Red Haired" Shanks.
I agreed to fight Whitebeard but I never agreed to fight "Flower Sword" Vista.

- Higuma insults Shanks
- Shanks does nothing
It only escalated because of Luffy and Higuma. If Higuma stopped right there, nothing would happen to him.
Mihawk knows Shanks better than Higuma, so he knows when to stop.

 

[Kōri no kokyū]

Mihawk doesn't fight Shanks anymore at MF because he went home.

Mihawk has no interest in Shanks because he lost his arm. There's no fun In fighting one hand guy lmao.

I agreed to fight Whitebeard but I never agreed to fight "Red Haired" Shanks.
I agreed to fight Whitebeard but I never agreed to fight "Flower Sword" Vista.

Read the chapters as always , they had other priorities.

- Higuma insults Shanks
- Shanks does nothing
It only escalated because of Luffy and Higuma. If Higuma stopped right there, nothing would happen to him.

And he's dead.

What can you do about it Topi chan.

Mihawk knows Shanks better than Higuma, so he knows when to stop.

Exactly Mihawk knows Shanks better than anyone. And he knows he's weaker than him now and refuses to fight.

 

[Vanlax]

You mean time flows faster in Elbaf right?

I thought about this but the other way around.
That time flows actually slower in Elbaf and faster outside. (e.g 1yr Elbaf = 3 yrs ROW)

Meaning a lot of time as well as changes would've passed by outside when the SHP leaves.

But not because SHP aren't ready, but just for plot reasons.

I disagree with the idea that the SHP aren't ready when they're mostly the ones who defeated Kaido and BP officers.

 

[Blazing Lion]

A few problems one was pointed out already in the case of Mother Carmel
Elbaf is not the only giant island, the age part of giants is there own genetics not specific to Elbaf.
Shanks has been to Elbaf seemingly couple of times his age seems normal compared to people who have not gone to Elbaf.

 

[Steven]

Timeskip for us happened in 5 chapters. Not more than that. We ain't gonna see the entire timeskip lol.

Was it just that short?But take in mind,that was like what?15 years ago?Modern Loda would waste more chapter on it

 

[Max]

You seem to be a bit confused by the time dilation concept. If 24 months in Elbaf represent 8 montths outside of Elbaf, it means time passes much slower outside of Elbaf, not faster. So why would the SHs worry about how much time has passed outside of Elbaf, if their stay in Elbaf was much longer? I think you unconsciously associated the notion of "shorter" with the notion of "faster", which is wrong.

And if that theory were true, Giants' life expectancy would actually be shorter than humans', not longer. Time passing faster for them = they would grow older at a faster rate.

 

[ShinichiMugi]

That would be cool but what would be the explanation for such a phenomenon? After all Elbaph is in the same dimension as the rest of the world.

 

[Worst]

Hmm i saw this theory around but I don't buy it, Scooper doesn't seem to be affected by it ( he said it suckers to be married with a Giant cuz he's the only one aging ) if there was some s** going on he would've mentioned it or hinted at it.

Also I don't feel like there's a need for a time skip tbh I mean Luffy / Zoro are ok ( Luffy is a damn Yonko and hits like one imho ) Sanji might need another little haki boost and he'll be there Jinbe as well, rest of the SHs power ups won't really matter as they ain't gonna reach a point where they can approach an Elder / Yonko / Admiral so why bother ? ( They can get some power ups to make them look cooler and like they keeping up with the top dogs but realistically they'll always be far below them and we don't need a time skip for that ).

 

[BattalGazi]

İ don't think that is the case since Dorry and Broggy looks still the same, if what you said ia true they would be dead or really old.

 

[Kōri no kokyū]

İ don't think that is the case since Dorry and Broggy looks still the same, if what you said ia true they would be dead or really old.

They were little garden the entire time though.

 

[MegaSpider]

Dorry and Broggys 2 nakama Oimo and Kashy were on Ennies Lobby for 50 years. They didn't age anymore than Dorry and Broggy did.

 

[BattalGazi]

They were little garden the entire time though.

Just remember their flashback, they look exactly same after 100 years.

 

[thisnewtechnique]

Now hear me out. Time dilation isn't a thing in one piece universe so far.
but Which species lives the longest in One piece?
- It's Giants!!, their age is about 3/4 times the age of Human's.

Jarul (Probably the most aged Giant) Age - 408 (Currently)...
Now my theory is Elbaf giants don't live longer rather , Elbaf follows different Time flow entirely.
Giants age maybe around 100 years only but , TIme flows differently in Elbaf. 4 times more slower.

taking current Relevant Giants ages.

• Dorry and Broggy - 160
• Saul - 127
• Loki - 63
• Hajrudin - 81

in Human years ,

• Dorry and Broggy - 40 years old / 70s y
• Saul - 32~33 year old / 50s
• Loki - 15~16 years old / 30s
• Hajrudin - 19~20 / 50s

Only known Record of Giants staying in outside world for a long period of Time is Dorry and Broggy , that too for like 100 years.
and Little Garden and Giants are Connected to each other.

Rest of the marines like ,
Saul , as Navy Admiral , who around 105 at that time , 21~ in human Years.

Also Saul was Giant from some Island in South Blue. He doesn't originate or belong to Elbaf.


Now how Little Garden and Elbaf are Connected?

He warned people not to Overstay there welcome here as they will Fall victim to Time dilation and when they leave the island they might face an entirely new Era on front of them as time outside has passed very quickly.

let's say 2 years in Elbaf , 24 months , will be just , 8 months in One piece real world time.
1 years , will be 4 months.
3 months will be , just a month Outside.

Now why or how it happens? we have no idea so far. Oda will probably come up with something.

Now for the time skip Part.

pre-time skip parallels Post time skip.

arlong park ~ fishmen island
alabasta ~ Dressrosa
Skypea ~ Zou
Enies Lobby ~ Whole Cake island
Thriller Barks ~ Wano
Sabaody ~ Egghead
Amazon Lily ~ Elbaf

with that logic , next island should Parallel Impel down. where Strawhat disbanded and it might happen again or they are not even part of it.

Big changes happens.
- Shanks vs Blackbeard
- Cross guild infiltration of Impel down.

Luffy and Co , may or not be part of it.

I say time skip is needed because Luffy and others are clearly not ready for what's their in future.

It's like Rayleigh and Gaban Parallel.

Rayleigh gave them access to Haki
Gaban giving them access for the next Stage to beat their villains who seem totally Invincible as of now.

- Kidd lost to RHP , during time skip , he lost now as well and will come back.
- Coby turned into Captain and hero of marines , might turn into Vice Admiral as well.
- Law became Warlord , like Blackbeard , Might even Join Holyknights if asked for his own purpose.
- Luffy trained with Ray , not with Gaban.

 

[Kōri no kokyū]

I got another W ig.