Versus Battle Tobi vs Pein
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Obito low diffs.
first lets establish how superior Obito is.
Obito is faster than any Pain path
Obito is way smarter than Pain, and can come up with a plan on the spot.
Kamui soloes. The pain paths need to be within Pain's range or they're obsolete. Kamui the paths 1 by 1
i'll make a separate post with pictures later, but you can just read the the 5 kage summit arc to see Obito's feats
first lets establish how superior Obito is.
Obito is faster than any Pain path
Obito is way smarter than Pain, and can come up with a plan on the spot.
Kamui soloes. The pain paths need to be within Pain's range or they're obsolete. Kamui the paths 1 by 1
i'll make a separate post with pictures later, but you can just read the the 5 kage summit arc to see Obito's feats
Obito's kamui is close range, He has to get right near pein to put him in kamui dimension as seen with torune
With nagato's shared sight among up to 15 bodies, there's no way tobi could ever get him from behind like this
With nagato's shared sight among up to 15 bodies, there's no way tobi could ever get him from behind like this
Naruto vs Pain showed that as long as you’re faster than the paths shared vision isn’t that big of a problem, and orange mask obito is tiers faster than sage naruto
Because Obito figured out their abilities and quickly devised a plan to beat them in seconds. It highlights his intelligence and speed.
- being able to teleport, grab sasuke and teleport away before being hit by particle style
- being able to phase through the raikage who was faster than Naruto at the time
- being able to teleport, grab sasuke and teleport away before being hit by particle style
- being able to phase through the raikage who was faster than Naruto at the time
The Six Paths' Of Pain wins more times than not, in my opinion.
I mean.. The Six Paths' Of Pain possesses significantly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> speed features, and destructive capabilities in contrast to the likes of Obito. I don't think that the latter can magically wrap the gargantuan Rinnegan Animals', that required an Amaterasu from Itachi, to eradicate. The Authority Of The Gods' (ie., Kamui.. ), also, doesn't wrap the castor's spirit, so soul ripping should work, in my opinion.
The God Realm's DC is way too much for MS Obito to handle, tbh.
Supplementally, I'd like to add that The Six Paths' Of Pain possesses significantly greater hype, and portrayal, so that kind of seals the deal, in my opinion.
I mean.. The Six Paths' Of Pain possesses significantly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> speed features, and destructive capabilities in contrast to the likes of Obito. I don't think that the latter can magically wrap the gargantuan Rinnegan Animals', that required an Amaterasu from Itachi, to eradicate. The Authority Of The Gods' (ie., Kamui.. ), also, doesn't wrap the castor's spirit, so soul ripping should work, in my opinion.
The God Realm's DC is way too much for MS Obito to handle, tbh.
Supplementally, I'd like to add that The Six Paths' Of Pain possesses significantly greater hype, and portrayal, so that kind of seals the deal, in my opinion.
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Black Zetsu thought that it was inconceivable that anyone alive could defeat pain.
The same Black Zetsu whose job was to keep info, the same Black Zetsu who knew the abilities of all kage, Obito, and even Itachi.
Black Zetsu thought that it was inconceivable that anyone alive could defeat pain.
The same Black Zetsu whose job was to keep info, the same Black Zetsu who knew the abilities of all kage, Obito, and even Itachi.
What’s interesting is that Obito and Zetsu both said Pain was much stronger than Sasuke and that was why they stopped him from attacking the village.
And then they were both disappointed by Sasuke’s performance at the 5 kage summit. Which means that they felt like they overestimated Sasuke when putting Pain way above him.
Which means that if Pain had attacked the 5 kage summit instead of Sasuke bodies would have hit the floor. So Raikage speed feats on their own do not scale anyone to Pain.
And then they were both disappointed by Sasuke’s performance at the 5 kage summit. Which means that they felt like they overestimated Sasuke when putting Pain way above him.
Which means that if Pain had attacked the 5 kage summit instead of Sasuke bodies would have hit the floor. So Raikage speed feats on their own do not scale anyone to Pain.
You realize you made several leaps in your conclusion right?
1. Tobi being disappointed in Sasuke might have more to do with the fact that he got overwhelmed badly by the Kage. Didn’t even put up a fight. We can for a fact scale Sage Naruto and the Raikage and we know who’s faster
2. When Pain was defeated, Obito said that Naruto might be stronger. That clearly leads to interpretation that Sasuke is not that far off from Pain in Obito’s eyes
1. Tobi being disappointed in Sasuke might have more to do with the fact that he got overwhelmed badly by the Kage. Didn’t even put up a fight. We can for a fact scale Sage Naruto and the Raikage and we know who’s faster
2. When Pain was defeated, Obito said that Naruto might be stronger. That clearly leads to interpretation that Sasuke is not that far off from Pain in Obito’s eyes
Where do you see the word might from Zetsu, who saw the fight?
The scale is obviously Pain >> Naruto > Sasuke. (since the Deva path alone defeated Naruto and all his toads almost immediately once his power returned)
And Sasuke did a worse job at the 5 Kage summit than they expected.
There more from Zetsu, but he literally says at multiple points that it was ridiculous to think anyone could beat pain.
The scale is obviously Pain >> Naruto > Sasuke. (since the Deva path alone defeated Naruto and all his toads almost immediately once his power returned)
And Sasuke did a worse job at the 5 Kage summit than they expected.
There more from Zetsu, but he literally says at multiple points that it was ridiculous to think anyone could beat pain.
That was never, A plan that was just done versus danzo's goons
He does the kamui bfr in alot of other fights, it's not just a strategy that he came up with when facing torune and fuu
Deidara can keep pace with onoki
So it makes sense scaling wise if characters like obito or pein, could blitz the tsuchikage
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That was never, A plan that was just done versus danzo's goons
He does the kamui bfr in alot of other fights, it's not just a strategy that he came up with when facing torune and fuu
Deidara can keep pace with onoki
So it makes sense scaling wise if characters like obito or pein, could blitz the tsuchikage
He does the kamui bfr in alot of other fights, it's not just a strategy that he came up with when facing torune and fuu
Deidara can keep pace with onoki
So it makes sense scaling wise if characters like obito or pein, could blitz the tsuchikage
Edo’s were enhanced, and particle style speed is different than Onoki’s speed
but funny how you ignore the raikage who was canonically faster than sage naruto
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I might have gotten the translation wrong but again, Minato said Obito was the real threat not Pain. Minato was watching the fight
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