Speculations Toki said 9 persons would defeat Kaidou : Who are they ?

#23
The shadows are just the return of the Scabbards to Wano.

There has already been fourteen people who have contributed to the fall of Kaido, and little reason to think that either Oden or Toki were so specifically clairvoyant that they could tell the exact number of people who would fight Kaido. They aren’t Sharly.

They sure as hell don’t seem to have predicted Big Mom showing up as well.
(because Oda hadn’t came up with the idea when he first wrote the Toki’s last words)
 
#24
Show the prophecy where she specifically mentions nine shadows putting an end to kaidos 20 year reign. Last I checked Oden didn’t give the prophecy toki did.
The 9 shadows was talking about the scabbards dude . She said nine shadows interwoven through time . Only the scabbards are interwoven through time . Odens prophecy said new powerful pirates would defeat kaido . Two different things . Also stop trying to include Sanji in the rooftop fight . You’re getting desperate
 
#31
The prophecy is a threat to Kaido that orochi thinks was meaning him and it can’t refer to the scabbards as they aren’t woven through the twenty moon lit night
Scabbards were referred to kill orochi and has been shown many times, It wasn't even mentioned kaido lmao. You can give some panels to prove that. Toki's prophecy=9 scabbards



SCABBARDS WERE GOING TO OPEN BORDERS OF WANO
 
#34
The prophecy is a threat to Kaido that orochi thinks was meaning him and it can’t refer to the scabbards as they aren’t woven through the twenty moon lit night
"as they aren’t woven through the twenty moon lit night "
meaning what, do you understand what that line means?
and some of the strawhats which you suggested are?


orochi is the one concerned about the prophecy and the nine red scabbards which is clearly what the prophecy is about
not kaido.

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Scabbards were referred to kill orochi and has been shown many times, It wasn't even mentioned kaido lmao. You can give some panels to prove that. Toki's prophecy=9 scabbards



SCABBARDS WERE GOING TO OPEN BORDERS OF WANO
lol thanks for putting effort in
didnt want to do all that again
even with that tho, lets see how great people are at reading.
/thread.
 
#35
"as they aren’t woven through the twenty moon lit night "
meaning what, do you understand what that line means?
and some of the strawhats which you suggested are?


orochi is the one concerned about the prophecy and the nine red scabbards which is clearly what the prophecy is about
not kaido.
Woven through the twenty moon lit nights

This means that the nine shadows will be brought together due to kaidos reign.

Luffy Zoro and Sanji were brought into the fold due to Wanos residents. (Tama, Yasuie, Kinemon) these three are the most connected straw hats. Sanji literally started the Wano saga due to being the only one willing to save kinemon

Law was brought in due to Kaidos relation with Doflamingo and his weapon trading. Bepo due to Jacks attack on his home.

Kid and Killer were attacked and tortured by Kaido and his subordinate.

And throughout wano we’ve been told that it was Kaido who rules wano not Orochi
 
#37
Woven through the twenty moon lit nights

This means that the nine shadows will be brought together due to kaidos reign.

Luffy Zoro and Sanji were brought into the fold due to Wanos residents. (Tama, Yasuie, Kinemon) these three are the most connected straw hats. Sanji literally started the Wano saga due to being the only one willing to save kinemon

Law was brought in due to Kaidos relation with Doflamingo and his weapon trading. Bepo due to Jacks attack on his home.

Kid and Killer were attacked and tortured by Kaido and his subordinate.

And throughout wano we’ve been told that it was Kaido who rules wano not Orochi
just means they will be brought back
nothing to do with kaido's reign

its exactly as orochi predicted but everyone called him ridiculous
the 9 samurai "ghost" will come back to take down orochi.
luffy wasnt even born 20 years ago
this connection is reaching and you begin to see that adding law and kidd to the mix with no connection with the scabbards.

yasheen's theory/reach of what it means

"Luffy Zoro and Sanji were brought into the fold due to Wanos residents. (Tama, Yasuie, Kinemon) these three are the most connected straw hats. Sanji literally started the Wano saga due to being the only one willing to save kinemon.
Kid and Killer were attacked and tortured by Kaido and his subordinate.

And throughout wano we’ve been told that it was Kaido who rules wano not Orochi."

and throughout the discussion of toki's prophecy
the person in question is orochi.


kaido is what oden talked about
no specific number was mentioned
new people muscling their way into the new world
if I cant take him down
they will. yamato repeated it in ch 1000 with the 5 on the roof.
 
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