Role Madness Too Many Doctors (Game Thread)

[Yoho]

Good morning! I was looking forward so much to this game, but the pings didn't work, and I went to sleep.

Now I have 30 pages to read which will maybe not happen. I understand Flower has a plan but I see above she is self voting so the plan will go to waste for exactly this reason (probably).
I will talk to her soon ig when she will wake up.

Gooood morning Michelle

 

[Michelle]

11 pages already? Good god I missed out.

How much have you read from the game Daniel?

 

[Michelle]

Where exactly is the reaction test Flower?

Spoiler

I‘M FINALLY TOWN AGAIN!!!

Greetings

Same

but there r no town this game flowa, just doctors and poor patients

VOTE EKKO.

well im heading off to sleep a bit

I‘m going to bed now. Good Night.

hmm

Yoho probably Town.

I don’t think he‘s gonna bite lol.

yoho rn

Okay.

Unvote.

Ekko I still have a little difficulty reading, I‘m your loyal sheep this day phase.

Most unfortunately

I liked his Yoho reaction test tbh.

 

[Michelle]

Gooood morning Michelle

I know you are here. Tell me something game related

 

[Yoho]

I know you are here. Tell me something game related

What do you wanna know

 

[Michelle]

Being scum is a lot more fun

I can gaslight and manipulate the masses and watch gleefully as chaos takes over town

Gaslighting should not be allowed because it's toxic behaviour.
It's odd to think you enjoy this stuff.

 

[Yoho]

Gaslighting should not be allowed because it's toxic behaviour.
It's odd to think you enjoy this stuff.

Its not toxic lying and decit is the whole point, making people mistrust their own minds and memory

 

[Michelle]

What do you wanna know

Your thoughts about the plan, your reads, anything you want to add

 

[Alwaysmind]

Good morning! I was looking forward so much to this game, but the pings didn't work, and I went to sleep.

Now I have 30 pages to read which will maybe not happen. I understand Flower has a plan but I see above she is self voting so the plan will go to waste for exactly this reason (probably).
I will talk to her soon ig when she will wake up.

Good morning Dr. Mich.

 

[Michelle]

Its not toxic lying and decit is the whole point, making people mistrust their own minds and memory

Lying and deceit doesn't mean gaslighting.

 

[Michelle]

Good morning Dr. Mich.

Good morning sir, what's your opinion about the game until now?

 

[Daniel]

How much have you read from the game Daniel?

Mainly a couple of pages before Ratchet's whole 'Kingmaker' proposal, which opened a whole new can of worms in an already hectic game from the start.

 

[Yoho]

Your thoughts about the plan, your reads, anything you want to add

The plan while it has its flaws but if I under stood what mango said the risk is worth it because it opens up a lot of avenues, its certainly and interesting plan

I personally think we should fo first four people all pick someone to protect then everyone else abstains in order to negate any risk of taking out town inadvertently

As for reads I don't really have any solid reads rigjt now but so far Flower and Am feel most suspicious

I'll have a more solid read list after night one

 

[Yoho]

Lying and deceit doesn't mean gaslighting.

Gas light is a form of psychological manipulation that makes people question their memory and perception of reality, in the world of this game i see nothing wrong with using such tactics but if it makes you feel better next time im scum I won't use it on you

 

[Flower]

Where exactly is the reaction test Flower?

Yoho has the habit to say Good Night to players who say they would be going to bed whenever he‘s scum. So I tested him by saying I would be going to sleep.

Also I think Imma go to bed again. Woke up a bit early now.

 

[Alexis2282AE]

@Daniel Can you put a vote on Ratchet?

Vote lynch Ratchet.

 

[Michelle]

Yoho has the habit to say Good Night to players who say they would be going to bed whenever he‘s scum. So I tested him by saying I would be going to sleep.

Also I think Imma go to bed again. Woke up a bit early now.

That's NAI as long as he is conscious about it.

 

[Michelle]

Anyway, I had a bunch of quotes but I can't really be bothered posting them.

I didn't like how Ekko initially tried to pair Fuji off with me. While he didn't play it off as serious his follow up to my entrance suggests it's an angle hes going for, and I suspect he might be playing positionally.

Flower buddying with Ekko straight away is also weird, and logically her case on hime was poor. I don't just disagree with it. The notion that scum would contest a plan that, quite frankly, doesn't really guarantee anything, all because they're scum, doesn't hold up - scum are not the ones eager to draw attention to themselves that way. Contention like hime's pretty much always comes from town, and her way of working into that read wasnt very good. Also treating my slot exactly the same as Ekko which is bad.

Speaking of Ekko, his arguments on hime are pretty bad too - he initially presented it as "NAI" but then also moved into a scum read, feels like a fake thought to me.

On the topic of the plan, there are a few things that they all seem to fail to consider.

Flaw #1 - a plan is only good if it considers its executors.

Simply put, the idea of everyone targeting a player is a pipe dream. It won't happen, and even if most do, there will be enough going off shoot or inactive that no one is fully exposed by it. But let's say that they are. Once the Watcher is outed, all attempts at enforcing co-operation are moot.

Flaw #2 - Who is deciding the targets

Seems to have been skipped in consideration - who is deciding who we target? I have a solution to this, it's a bit funny actually, but I want to see what the ones making this plan think. Because I think we would agree this is the single most important part of the whole plan.

Flaw #3 - late game

How does this plan work in late game? Do we assume that the watcher will never get killed?

I do think co-operation is going to be helpful on some level. But you need to be able to accommodate people going off the beaten path so to speak. Or, like I alluded to in Flaw #2, you insert some consequence for whomever decides the target.

In terms of reads, I think Yoho, hime, Hayumi, Stargate are all possible town, to varying strengths. Flower can be town, in that she's certainly capable of presenting a read that she doesn't really believe because she's angry at someone, but I have reservations there. Ekko I think can be scum, need to see how he gets treated at large though. Would lean getting a claim there. I guess flower would be at slight scum and Ekko at lean scum.

Jumping from post to post without reading them all I see Ratchet had a consistent convo with Ekko.
There's something who pinged me about Ekko's good intentions (him telling Ratchet he's struggling is weird) and I disagree with a wagon on Ratchet because his disagreement about Flower's plan is very logical to me.

I should catch up in order but I have to work now

 

[Michelle]

@Daniel Can you put a vote on Ratchet?

Vote lynch Ratchet.

Why is this and why do you call someone to vote with you?

 

[Michelle]

Gas light is a form of psychological manipulation that makes people question their memory and perception of reality, in the world of this game i see nothing wrong with using such tactics but if it makes you feel better next time im scum I won't use it on you

The text I made bigger will show you why is it a toxic behaviour.

gaslight
/ˈɡaslʌɪt/

verb
gerund or present participle: gaslighting

1. manipulate (someone) using psychological methods into questioning their own sanity or powers of reasoning