Role Madness Too Many Doctors (Game Thread)

[hime]

Also Ratchet isn’t even re evaluating Hime and Mango which raises some flags yet again…when their only real content so far is a push on me lmaoo.

u want everyone to vote u and u get mad when ppl vote u lol
honestly idrc if u r town anymore, ur just generating thread pollution atp with all ur "vote me" nonsense

 

[Flower]

hime

Yoho
MangoSenpai
Hayumi
Crowned Witch
Ratchet

Stargate18
Alwaysmind
York

Ali v2
Daniel
Yo Tan Wa
Michelle
Random Asshole
The Orca
Polar Bear
Red Night

Fujishiro
Alexis2282AE

Flower
EkkoLoJinx



Explanations:

Yoho:
Early game when I was getting a lot of heat on me from Flower and Ekko, he stepped in agreeing with my plan of everyone abstaining. I can't see scum Yoho doing this tbh. It just puts unnecessary heat on himself too because at the moment, I had no support at all. That being said, I think his later posts were also fine. He said he wanted to be kingmaker and he proposed his own plan which shows a level of willingness to solve that I believe comes from town him.

MangoSenpai:
Not really sure why he is being so scum read tbh. Not exactly sure how to explain my train of thought here, but in the Overlord game, he tried his best to push certain angles while trying to be somewhat amicable towards all the players. I think he is more combative here and takes on a very different tone. I see Flower is saying all he is doing is parroting Ratchet, but he is so blatant about it, that I don't think it ever comes from scum.

Hayumi:
I think that he has been rather solvy in his own way. I don't always agree with all of his positions but I feel like his thought process on certain topics (such as the kingmaker plan or the Flower/Ekko vs. me situation) has been relatively easy to follow. Also personally, I feel like it might be easier as scum to take a side in the whole Flower vs. Ratchet debacle (regardless of whether or not one of Flower or Ratchet is scum as well) because both are strong voices and you can work together in the thread to drive positions together. Maybe I'm not explaining this right but XD.

Crowned Witch:
Similar to Hayumi, I think she has been solving in her own way. I liked her posts earlier in the game when we were talking about the plans because she seemed to actually care about the pros and cons for each thing and took her own approach in assessing everything. I understand that scum can do that as well, but it felt more genuine. I also feel as though she has been different from the last game I played with her where she was scum.

Ratchet:
This is pretty simple, kingmaker plan doesn't come from scum. I can't see how any scum would want this. Scum can't bus because they would be screwed for being alive in the later stages. They can't choose a townie because they would be lynched next day. They can't even powerwolf because they would be more likely to be chosen as kingmaker. I guess it's not flawless in the case we pick townies who end up having bad reads, but it drastically changes the way scum would have to play the game. Aside from his plan though, I feel like he has largely been a voice of reason in the thread and it's easy to follow his thought process.

Stargate18:
I think he has been fine for the most part. Last game, I played with him, I noticed that he doesn't always follow the grain as town (though tbf I've never seen him as scum), and he seems the same in this one. I think his thoughts and concerns about Flower's plans earlier in the game came off very genuine. He's fallen off a bit though so this read has weakened.

Alwaysmind:
Honestly, this is mostly vibes, not a whole ton to say here.

York:
Also similar in that this is mainly vibes. However, there was one interaction between her and Ekko that I felt she came off looking pretty good.

Ali v2:
Not sure. He went into the thread pushing Ekko hard, but he's largely disappeared after that. Would like to see more thoughts from him in general since I don't have much of a read on him atm.

Daniel:
Need to see more.

Yo Tan Wa:
Similar to Ali, except he wasn't really pushing Ekko. He's largely disappeared since.

Michelle:
This is going to sound bad, but I genuinely can't remember her posts minus the ones where she was saying Daniel wasn't a new player and Flower was saying he was. Her posts might've been in those I skipped/skimmed over.

Random Asshole:
Same as Michelle in that I genuinely don't remember anything from him.

The Orca:
Need to see more.

Polar Bear:
Need to see more.

Red Night:
Need to see more.

Fujishiro:
I can't read him and I'm always scared to XD. I know he says he plays however he wants as either alignment but I can't help but feel as though town Fuji would have made more of an effort to lead town at this point or provide some sort of reads list for everyone instead of just trolling about.

Alexis2282AE:
This read is probably somewhat influenced by my other reads. I don't think he's using AI this game which I appreciate, but something still feels a bit off. Felt like a scummate told him to enter the thread and "do something like sus Ratchet", and he just simply followed it.

Flower:
I think after she threw out her initial plan, and replaced it with her one person plan, I saw her in a better light. But since then, I find her posts terrible and I'm unable to follow her line of thinking for many of them. She says she finds me "regrettably town" because Ratchet wouldn't defend me if we were both scum which I don't understand at all? She also made some posts about how I've realized that my posts against her initial plan were terrible and that I've basically come to my senses now after realizing the faction kill information and why I would have been scum read by her and Ekko, but I don't understand that either. I still don't see any real issue with abstaining if everyone were to do it. It would draw out the game considerably, but it's not like it has major consequences. She says she has issues with no kills coming from town but then also takes issue with the kingmaker plan saying that gives scum more kills. I don't know, there is a lot more things but I'm honestly too lazy to type everything out. It just feels like contradiction after contradiction and I can't follow. I think there is definitely a world where she can still be town, but meh.

EkkoLoJinx:
I feel like his push on me has been rather slimy. Think it's definitely run it's course but he is too pressed for content that he doesn't really have much to offer elsewhere. I still don't understand why he pushed me so hard in the first place for not wanting to speedrun the game and preferring the abstaining direction, because the only real explanation he's been giving is that I went against an obviously pro-town plan. He's also been offering up the idea of having a council of kingmakers which in my opinion, just completely defeats the purpose of the kingmaker plan in the first place. If the council is wrong, who do we lynch next day? It just feels like a scum proposition so that they can drive miskills more easily. He's also largely fallen off. Only point in his favor that I could see is that he's not even trying to do anything townie which is lol.

Okay, let me take a look at that reads list.

First of all, her read on Yoho. It reads absolutely generic because 1) Yoho isn’t the type who fears heat on him as scum. He straight up tried getting thread control in Overlord and handled the final day. 2) What he’s doing even looks more like white knighting. And if Hime is Town he could even use her as a crutch. So reading him Town over it is straight cap. Add to this the fact that her 2 biggest scum reads tried reaction testing him at SoD and cleared him the read doesn’t really add up. We could easily be teamed with him and coached him into doing all that, especially since we know his meta very well.

Her read on Mango is also more of an invention of a read than a genuine thought. Where is he combative? At all? He‘s literally just hiding behind Ratchet all damn game without a single piece of original thought.

Her entire list consists of reads that just don’t sound like she genuinely believes anything she‘s writing. They sound as generic as they come. Like smth that just sounds good at first, but when you scrutinize them you‘ll see they ring rather empty. It‘s the kind of reads list scums give for CWAC.

 

[MangoSenpai]

u want everyone to vote u and u get mad when ppl vote u lol
honestly idrc if u r town anymore, ur just generating thread pollution atp with all ur "vote me" nonsense

No, you don't understand. She votes herself to make people not vote her.

Is it a roundabout way of doing it?
Absolutely yes.

But it has been painfully obvious what she's been trying to achieve all this time..


She wants to get me lynched and wants to deter her votes by voting herself in a way which would immitate a signal that she's got no regards for her life to reverse psychology people into thinking that they're too suicidal to be scum

 

[MangoSenpai]

Lmao, Ali claims to have read every page up to 40, then he refers to a post I made on page 54 and makes the accusation that I was effectively trying to frame or defame Hayumi behind his back

I mean what

And here Flower is saying he's Townlock lmao

 

[Flower]

Her seemingly inventing reasons to Town read Mango also shows they can be aligned as else she‘d be able to provide actual reasons. Which seems like she‘s trying to establish him as Town or maybe try getting him Town spewed if she ever flips.

 

[MangoSenpai]

I am at a loss for words really

 

[hime]

Okay, let me take a look at that reads list.

First of all, her read on Yoho. It reads absolutely generic because 1) Yoho isn’t the type who fears heat on him as scum. He straight up tried getting thread control in Overlord and handled the final day. 2) What he’s doing even looks more like white knighting. And if Hime is Town he could even use her as a crutch. So reading him Town over it is straight cap. Add to this the fact that her 2 biggest scum reads tried reaction testing him at SoD and cleared him the read doesn’t really add up. We could easily be teamed with him and coached him into doing all that, especially since we know his meta very well.

this is plain false
u continuously screamed in scum chat to "POST AND BE ACTIVE FFS I CAN'T DO EVERYTHING ON MY OWN" multiple times before yoho took more of a lead
u act like i wasnt there myself

as for white knighting, that makes no sense
youd have a far better argument of ekko whiteknighting u

 

[Flower]

this is plain false
u continuously screamed in scum chat to "POST AND BE ACTIVE FFS I CAN'T DO EVERYTHING ON MY OWN" multiple times before yoho took more of a lead
u act like i wasnt there myself

as for white knighting, that makes no sense
youd have a far better argument of ekko whiteknighting u

Yes. But Yoho took more of a lead in the end. Which shows he‘s capable of that. Which proves my point. He also likes being scum and likes fanning the flames.

 

[hime]

Her read on Mango is also more of an invention of a read than a genuine thought. Where is he combative? At all? He‘s literally just hiding behind Ratchet all damn game without a single piece of original thought.

i quoted what? around 10 posts of his that i just quickly found myself and u act like he wasnt combative lol
how is it hiding behind ratchet when he is very strongly pushing u
just bc he has the same views as ratchet doesnt mean he is hiding

 

[Polar Bear]

I'm just here to kill, who is everyone visiting to nuke?

I'm taking aim at crowned witch

 

[hime]

Yes. But Yoho took more of a lead in the end. Which shows he‘s capable of that. Which proves my point. He also likes being scum and likes fanning the flames.

u entirely ignored my post

 

[Polar Bear]

Why are ekko and flower voting mango. Thought he was ok

 

[Flower]

So your reads lack depth and critical thinking. I also have my doubts you hold Ratchet‘s scum play in such low regard that you clear him simply for proposing a Kingmaker. Doesn’t feel like somebody who prides herself as somebody who can see through his scum plans would do. You know damn well that scums can exploit such systems.

 

[Ratchet]

@Flower Read on Ekko?

 

[Ratchet]

So your reads lack depth and critical thinking. I also have my doubts you hold Ratchet‘s scum play in such low regard that you clear him simply for proposing a Kingmaker. Doesn’t feel like somebody who prides herself as somebody who can see through his scum plans would do. You know damn well that scums can exploit such systems.

I'm sure her read has nothing to do with my defence of her slot or me also pushing her scum reads...

At what point can I no longer suspend my disbelief?

 

[Flower]

@Flower Read on Ekko?

Solid null. I struggle to find team mates for him though. Which probably prevents me from scum reading him atm.

 

[Alwaysmind]

Why are ekko and flower voting mango. Thought he was ok

they have been working back to back shifts. I’ve stopped reading what these two doctors have to say because they change their mind on what the patient is sick of every 2 pages.

 

[Ratchet]

Solid null. I struggle to find team mates for him though. Which probably prevents me from scum reading him atm.

Null is pretty... I mean, surely you have a read there? Feel like you're ignoring the elephant in the room with him to be honest.

 

[MangoSenpai]

Okay, let me take a look at that reads list.

First of all, her read on Yoho. It reads absolutely generic because 1) Yoho isn’t the type who fears heat on him as scum. He straight up tried getting thread control in Overlord and handled the final day. 2) What he’s doing even looks more like white knighting. And if Hime is Town he could even use her as a crutch. So reading him Town over it is straight cap. Add to this the fact that her 2 biggest scum reads tried reaction testing him at SoD and cleared him the read doesn’t really add up. We could easily be teamed with him and coached him into doing all that, especially since we know his meta very well.

Her read on Mango is also more of an invention of a read than a genuine thought. Where is he combative? At all? He‘s literally just hiding behind Ratchet all damn game without a single piece of original thought.

Her entire list consists of reads that just don’t sound like she genuinely believes anything she‘s writing. They sound as generic as they come. Like smth that just sounds good at first, but when you scrutinize them you‘ll see they ring rather empty. It‘s the kind of reads list scums give for CWAC.

Of course!


Man, you could not make this shit more obvious if you tried.
The only reason why people are even humoring you in any capacity is because they don't have the TMI like you do, and also good job on your mate Ali slipping up TMI against me.

What ae you going to do once you know that I inevitably flip town?

Blame Ratchet?
How is that gonna work?
Well, I guess he'd be dead too, right?

You're on a sucide mission, Flower, and you're stepping way out of bounds

 

[Flower]

I'm sure her read has nothing to do with my defence of her slot or me also pushing her scum reads...

At what point can I no longer suspend my disbelief?

That’s not the reason she names for Town reading you. She bases it almost solely on the Kingmaker. Which can be seen as a subtle way of trying to buddy you without making it obvious, you know.