Break Week Torishima's recent criticism about One Piece
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Hunter X Hunter is a weird one just because the Hunter Exam is somewhat divisive
Some people really like it and others think it's really slow paced
Just off watching reactions of the 2011 HxH anime people typically lose interest around the cooking section/trick tower
OG Dragon Ball is another one that as you said would have to be marketed well to fly. Once it starts picking up then I think it would be fine
@Roo Bleach would be even more fucked than One Piece
You're misremembering the spirit detective arc last well over 5 chapters
It's literally like the first 50 chapters of the manga
The part of Bleach that pretty much everybody acknowledges is unbearably slow and uninteresting relative to SS and everything after
It doesn't stand a chance in 2025
Naruto is the only one of the big 3 that would make it if the serialization started today imo
Some people really like it and others think it's really slow paced
Just off watching reactions of the 2011 HxH anime people typically lose interest around the cooking section/trick tower
OG Dragon Ball is another one that as you said would have to be marketed well to fly. Once it starts picking up then I think it would be fine
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@Roo Bleach would be even more fucked than One Piece
You're misremembering the spirit detective arc last well over 5 chapters
It's literally like the first 50 chapters of the manga
The part of Bleach that pretty much everybody acknowledges is unbearably slow and uninteresting relative to SS and everything after
It doesn't stand a chance in 2025
Naruto is the only one of the big 3 that would make it if the serialization started today imo
HxH would also not work in this context, since it wouldn't be a brand-new series like OP, Naruto, or Bleach. Togashi already had connections within the manga industry, and people were expecting a return after YYH's swift ending.
It's the same thing we're seeing live with Modulo: the series has started pretty slowly and it should tank soon if the rhythm doesn't improve, but because it's from a known quantity--GeGe--and because it's the spin-off/bastardized sequel of a popular product whose anime is still rolling--JJK--it'll likely be allowed to continue even if audience response is tepid.
It's the same thing we're seeing live with Modulo: the series has started pretty slowly and it should tank soon if the rhythm doesn't improve, but because it's from a known quantity--GeGe--and because it's the spin-off/bastardized sequel of a popular product whose anime is still rolling--JJK--it'll likely be allowed to continue even if audience response is tepid.
Well, these kind of animes are clearly intented to target the specific audience just like how there are movies covering the same kind of topics. So I don't see a reason to view these animes as problematic as you think.
That's why it's a misconception how people view animes as pure kids content - although many people view animes way more normally than before - but as matter of facts, there exist some crazy and serious animes. Often, there are very underrated animes with some average cover but when you actually watch it, it's definitely not for the average shonen fan. "From the New World" is an example - an underrated anime I've watched when I began binge watching seinen animes.
Ofc there are both mangas and manhwas when characters get raped just for the plot to move forward. It annoys me as well when this is used as active fuel to make the protagonist act.
That's why it's a misconception how people view animes as pure kids content - although many people view animes way more normally than before - but as matter of facts, there exist some crazy and serious animes. Often, there are very underrated animes with some average cover but when you actually watch it, it's definitely not for the average shonen fan. "From the New World" is an example - an underrated anime I've watched when I began binge watching seinen animes.
Ofc there are both mangas and manhwas when characters get raped just for the plot to move forward. It annoys me as well when this is used as active fuel to make the protagonist act.
I think one reason sometimes overlooked about why maybe there are less quality shonen is also maybe the low birth rates in Japan? It may seem silly,but,if Japan becomes older as a nation,there is less audience for typical shonen stuff and more for adult stuff. And also less new young writers to create the stories
I have seen new Mangas with much faster pacing than early OP and they still got axed within just 20-40 chapters of first release...
This one for example was slightly following the same formula that JJK, CSM, and MHA had (young protagonist with adult mentor figure guiding them) even had some good designs here and there
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hunters_Guild:_Red_Hood
But it IMMEDIATELY GOT AXED in just 18 chapters (5 months)... harsh.
Shonen Jump these days is very strict. There's a reason no active running series right now is considered among the "Top" besides OP, when previously we had MHA, JJK, and KNY, but they all ended. Now there's nothing except OP hogging the covers.
This one for example was slightly following the same formula that JJK, CSM, and MHA had (young protagonist with adult mentor figure guiding them) even had some good designs here and there
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hunters_Guild:_Red_Hood
But it IMMEDIATELY GOT AXED in just 18 chapters (5 months)... harsh.
Shonen Jump these days is very strict. There's a reason no active running series right now is considered among the "Top" besides OP, when previously we had MHA, JJK, and KNY, but they all ended. Now there's nothing except OP hogging the covers.
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I have seen new Mangas with much faster pacing than early OP and they still got axed within just 20-40 chapters of first release...
This one for example was slightly following the same formula that JJK, CSM, and MHA had (young protagonist with adult mentor figure guiding them) even had some good designs here and there
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hunters_Guild:_Red_Hood
But it IMMEDIATELY GOT AXED in just 18 chapters (5 months)... harsh.
Shonen Jump these days is very strict. There's a reason no active running series right now is considered among the "Top" besides OP, when previously we had MHA, JJK, and KNY, but they all ended. Now there's nothing except OP hogging the covers.
This one for example was slightly following the same formula that JJK, CSM, and MHA had (young protagonist with adult mentor figure guiding them) even had some good designs here and there
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hunters_Guild:_Red_Hood
But it IMMEDIATELY GOT AXED in just 18 chapters (5 months)... harsh.
Shonen Jump these days is very strict. There's a reason no active running series right now is considered among the "Top" besides OP, when previously we had MHA, JJK, and KNY, but they all ended. Now there's nothing except OP hogging the covers.
I do agree that while I like the storyline, the chapters often feel rushed. For example, this week, Dragon's panels were all like 1-2 panels max with most of his story being explained through writing. We don't see what he feels, we are explained what he feels like.
It's not something that a lot of manga reader talk about, but more often than not I'm feeling that Oda creates his chapters expecting that the anime fills the gaps with his panels, and that just isn't fair to his readers.
Reading One piece nowadays feels like reading the storyboard of the anime.
It's not something that a lot of manga reader talk about, but more often than not I'm feeling that Oda creates his chapters expecting that the anime fills the gaps with his panels, and that just isn't fair to his readers.
Reading One piece nowadays feels like reading the storyboard of the anime.