Controversial Understanding Oda's strongest titles

#43
Serious answer:despite age and Condition his achievements and that Nobody was Able to defeat dhim were enough
Nobody defeated him isn’t quite the same as nobody was able to defeat him.
He had half his skull leaking at the end of the war, and his onslaught on Akainu after killing his son only held the latter off for two chapters . Why are people doing an awful lot to not admit he wasn’t the strongest pirate anymore . He damn near admitted the same, his own commanders were concerned and that played a role in their defeat as well.
 
#44
Nobody defeated him isn’t quite the same as nobody was able to defeat him.
He had half his skull leaking at the end of the war, and his onslaught on Akainu after killing his son only held the latter off for two chapters . Why are people doing an awful lot to not admit he wasn’t the strongest pirate anymore . He damn near admitted the same, his own commanders were concerned and that played a role in their defeat as well.
I mean when he arrived at Marineford
 
#46
Nobody defeated him isn’t quite the same as nobody was able to defeat him.
He had half his skull leaking at the end of the war, and his onslaught on Akainu after killing his son only held the latter off for two chapters . Why are people doing an awful lot to not admit he wasn’t the strongest pirate anymore . He damn near admitted the same, his own commanders were concerned and that played a role in their defeat as well.
You are arguing he was the strongest and don't even realize.

Unless you wanna say Lucci was stronger than Luffy in Enies Lobby because after fight Luffy couldn't walk. Or Crocodile was stronger because Luffy took 3 days of sleep to recover after fight.
 
#47
World's Strongest Swordsman is the only legitimate title which is relevant to one of the main characters of One Piece, Zoro

The other titles have no importance in terms of whether they're just global reputation or actual substantively true

And with Imu's existence as both a man and a creature, WSM and WSC are simply false.

Whitebeard's "World's Strongest Man" is based on his rivalry with Roger. When Roger died, Whitebeard was viewed as the de facto strongest since he was the only one to "truly" rival him. Shiki basically says this, so that's where Whitebeard's title comes from.



Kaido's "Strongest Creature" was purely reputation based on begin with likely because of his insane durability and endurance. People would see Kaido being unharmed by basically anything thrown at him and spread around the rumor that he was the "Strongest Creature".
 
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#48
It was obvious from the beginning that all titles were fraudulent, because the Gorosei existed. But now we learned that Gorosei wasn't the real strongest, but their King is the strongest, undefeated being who ruled this world for 800 years
 
#49
It was obvious from the beginning that all titles were fraudulent, because the Gorosei existed. But now we learned that Gorosei wasn't the real strongest, but their King is the strongest, undefeated being who ruled this world for 800 years
Which is why the only fraud is Kaidos since Imus not a swordsman nor is he a mere man since he’s a god/devil. So Whitebeards and Mihawks titles aren’t related to Imu.
 
#50
Which is why the only fraud is Kaidos since Imus not a swordsman nor is he a mere man since he’s a god/devil. So Whitebeards and Mihawks' titles aren’t related to Imu.
We don't know if Imu is a swordman or not. He used the Great sword to stab Loki because he can wield any weapon. He used shotgun against Broggy because he knew how powerful his weapons. He knows what he is doing. Same with his leg attack against Sanji - he mastered every battle style. He is not Luffy or an incompetent hax user.
 
#53
We don't know if Imu is a swordman or not. He used the Great sword to stab Loki because he can wield any weapon. He used shotgun against Broggy because he knew how powerful his weapons. He knows what he is doing. Same with his leg attack against Sanji - he mastered every battle style. He is not Luffy or an incompetent hax user.
Imu isn't a swordsman, he's a jack of all trades master of everything
 
#55
We don't know if Imu is a swordman or not. He used the Great sword to stab Loki because he can wield any weapon. He used shotgun against Broggy because he knew how powerful his weapons. He knows what he is doing. Same with his leg attack against Sanji - he mastered every battle style. He is not Luffy or an incompetent hax user.
He definitely isn’t. He doesnt have a dedicated fighting style like swordsmen do, he uses his omen in any way shape or form he wants.
 
#56
He definitely isn’t. He doesnt have a dedicated fighting style like swordsmen do, he uses his omen in any way shape or form he wants.
And what makes you believe in that? He used Sword to stab Loki, and used it like any other swordman would use. He mastered every weapon that's just it. He is the strongest in every title and aspect. Zoro will need to break Imu's blade in the Final Battle.
 
#57
And what makes you believe in that? He used Sword to stab Loki, and used it like any other swordman would use. He mastered every weapon that's just it. He is the strongest in every title and aspect. Zoro will need to break Imu's blade in the Final Battle.
Because his sword was just a beam of Omen and not an actual blade. He’s more like Kizaru than Mihawk.
 
#60
Titles are literally what the common people in the OP universe believe, nothing more and and nothing less.
Being world's strongest x is still mean to be great portrayal for a character ofc since there has to be a reason for them to get such reputation, but Imu's existence alone proves they weren't mean to be some kind of irrefutable truth. The moment you start making even one exception, the whole thing crumbles.
 
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