Powers & Abilities Usopp and Sanji will unlock CoC in Elbaf

#21
So far, the first trait we've observed in those with CoC is high ambition. What ambitions have Sanji and Usopp shown after 1,139 chapters? Finding a sea is enough? Being a great warrior, but after 1112 he displays the same cowardice since his introduction?
Although Oda could justify Sanji's situation with his bioengineered modifications...
 
#24
Coward shouldn't have CoC. It would be a mistake to give it to Usopp imo regardless of his power level.
I'd say Usopp is the same as Blackbeard.

They scare easily, but they're not cowards, they're fearful. Bravery is not the absence of fear, it's what it is done in spite of it.

Cowards lack bravery and daring. I think Blackbeard needed both in heaps to betray the WBPs and do what he did. Similarly, Usopp may be last to run to danger, but he will run to danger.

Ultimately, I don't think Usopp shouldn't get it not because he fearful, but because what he wants out of life is pretty internal. He wants to be brave warrior of the sea, I think the joke of it is that he already is, he's just too discouraged to see it in himself.

Conquerors aren't all larger than life characters, but they tend to be unreasonable people, as I imagine a conqueror would have to be from the outset to believe in themselves and their aspirations.

I know not all of that applies to Chopper, who I think would be an interesting candidate for CoC, but I do think the little guy has some pretty bold and big aspirations in, essentially, conquering illness and disease or die trying, which he will if he practices medicine until his own death.
 
#26
With Sanji it’s always a possibility but whether he gets it or not, it’s not really gonna have that much bearing on how strong he’d be at the end of the series so I’m not really that fussed about it. Oda can always just give him some other ability to foster his development. So will ultimately depend on how Oda views CoC with regard to the end game & if he wants Luffy’s two wings to both be conquerors. With regard to him getting it on Elbaf, I’d say it’s a possibility, Oda has a tendency to give Luffy stuff first, then Zoro & then Sanji. Their bounties is one example of this.

With regards to Usopp, all he has going for him is his lies lol. He might get it if Oda wants to make good on all his lies coming true but doesn’t really feel like a Usopp arc tbh. There’s no plot point that one can really tie to Ussop. Expectation prior to the arc was that he’d defeat Loki but that ship has sailed lol. So maybe he awakens it during his BB Pirates fight.
 
#27
So far, the first trait we've observed in those with CoC is high ambition. What ambitions have Sanji and Usopp shown after 1,139 chapters? Finding a sea is enough? Being a great warrior, but after 1112 he displays the same cowardice since his introduction?
Although Oda could justify Sanji's situation with his bioengineered modifications...
what ambitions Katakuri has?

CoC is really arbitrary.
 
#30
Whenever someone tries to make up some rule(s) for CoC there's always an existing counter example proving it wrong.
because it's not convinient for their agenda

there's plenty of ambitious characters that should have it and plenty of royals as well. It's easier to accept that Oda just gives it to characters depending on how it will serve the narrative. Ex it wouldn't make much sense for Croc to have it in Alabasta, but dude's ambitions were fucking wild.
 
#31
because it's not convinient for their agenda

there's plenty of ambitious characters that should have it and plenty of royals as well. It's easier to accept that Oda just gives it to characters depending on how it will serve the narrative. Ex it wouldn't make much sense for Croc to have it in Alabasta, but dude's ambitions were fucking wild.
Remember when the same people claimed for a while BB will not have haki at all?

:Rofl:
 
#32
I'd say Usopp is the same as Blackbeard.

They scare easily, but they're not cowards, they're fearful. Bravery is not the absence of fear, it's what it is done in spite of it.

Cowards lack bravery and daring. I think Blackbeard needed both in heaps to betray the WBPs and do what he did. Similarly, Usopp may be last to run to danger, but he will run to danger.

Ultimately, I don't think Usopp shouldn't get it not because he fearful, but because what he wants out of life is pretty internal. He wants to be brave warrior of the sea, I think the joke of it is that he already is, he's just too discouraged to see it in himself.

Conquerors aren't all larger than life characters, but they tend to be unreasonable people, as I imagine a conqueror would have to be from the outset to believe in themselves and their aspirations.

I know not all of that applies to Chopper, who I think would be an interesting candidate for CoC, but I do think the little guy has some pretty bold and big aspirations in, essentially, conquering illness and disease or die trying, which he will if he practices medicine until his own death.
I see what you mean about Usopp but I'm just tired of the gags and post TS felt like a character regression for him.

As for Chopper if this was pre TS, I'd agree. But he's been treated like shit, now he's just there to be cute tbh.
 
#35
I see what you mean about Usopp but I'm just tired of the gags and post TS felt like a character regression for him.
I wish Oda struck a better balance. Usopp doesn't get anywhere near the panel time he used to so it's harder to tolerate the cowardly side of him when that's what most of the panels are dedicated to. I think people would feel differently if we got to see him and Luffy (and Chopper) joke around more often and competing with each other in silly games that could somehow also serve like training, e.g. fishing Sea Kings and sumo wrestling - the kind of dumb shit you would expect from them.

Usopp is the vibes guy on the Strawhats. Oda should find ways to make him more central to the story again, especially in the current arc.

As for Chopper if this was pre TS, I'd agree. But he's been treated like shit, now he's just there to be cute tbh.
Chopper has had it the worst of the SHPs, for sure, and it's a damn shame because he was so awesome pre-skip. His transformations were way better and more creative imo. His skillset still has huge potential, if Oda cares to do anything with it.

Lowkey wish he never got control over Monster Point. Would've been nice to see him master it on panel in a pivotal moment.
 
#39
Discuss the possibility please?
100 percent probable
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People still think unlocking CoC is big deal at this point ? :)
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Chapter 1140 will respond Sanji question.
But if usopp unlock coc , that means in one piece worlds , everybody can unlock coc . that would be stupid decision by oda
usopp has had conquerors haki hints since at least thriller bark if not earlier
 
#40
I can think of many reasons why I think it would be fitting for Sanji to have CoC.

Not the least of which that he would be the best and most fitting king for reasons that have nothing to do with his royal lineage and everything to do with his kindness, empathy, generosity, principles, values and ability to make friends. He’s not half bad in the brain department either.

Sanji possesses all the qualities you would want in a king, if you had to be ruled by one. He’d keep the people fed, shield the vulnerable and protect women. Peak masculinity and honourable, the kind of man others want to follow.
 
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