Speculations Vergo is Iron?..

[Zolo]

If Vergo used CoA Sanji would be fighting with 1 limb now

It was Vergo’s kindness that we must be grateful for

 

[Rootbeer]

It was Vergo’s kindness that we must be grateful for

Funny, every time Sanji fought the 2nd of an enemy crew, he got fucked..

Vergo, Gin, King..

 

[Zolo]

Funny, every time Sanji fought the 2nd of an enemy crew, he got fucked..

Vergo, Gin, King..

Trust Oda’s formula

 

[Blazing Lion]

Provide contextual evidence that supports your argument..

Contextual evidence is misleading due to Oda being inconsistent and hence cannot be taken at face value.

 

[Roronoa-sama]

pre mr 1 level

 

[BillSlipton]

Iron body you mean the Cp9 technique?..

If so Wano has proven that Iron Body and Hardening is the same thing CoA Haki..

No. They're similar. Weird translations.

Oda said that the 6 powers are akin to haki. Related like a cousin. They're not the same.

Iron body=coa

Kamie=coo

Rokuogan=internal destruction haki (acoa)

They share similarities. But rokushiki is physical techniques.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

I always thought he had a DF responsible for him having things on his face all the time.

Like some time of Magnet DF but that's from Kid's already. Maybe a weaker version?

It’s his beard. It’s tough like Velcro

 

[BattalGazi]

Funny, every time Sanji fought the 2nd of an enemy crew, he got fucked..

Vergo, Gin, King..

He was hurt against Gin Pearl broke his spine and bones, Vergo seems to have some iron skin like Germa, he didn't fight King it was all King getting a cheap shot because of momo.

 

[Rootbeer]

No. They're similar. Weird translations.

Oda said that the 6 powers are akin to haki. Related like a cousin. They're not the same.

Iron body=coa

Kamie=coo

Rokuogan=internal destruction haki (acoa)

They share similarities. But rokushiki is physical techniques.

I never thought about Rokuogan like that, i need to check it out..

If they are similar as strenght being directly related to CoA, then ok..
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He was hurt against Gin Pearl broke his spine and bones, Vergo seems to have some iron skin like Germa, he didn't fight King it was all King getting a cheap shot because of momo.

But isn't it interesting that against Gin and Vergo, he got injured prior to that in situations that was out of his control.. Like Oda purposely removed him from having a real fight against Gin and Vergo..

 

[Iaarm]

He looks like those germa clones. Maybe he escaped at young age ?
They were modified soldiers so maybe that explains his strong body…

 

[Shiroyru]

I don’t get why people still think Vergo has some top secret iron DF that Oda hasn’t revealed despite Vergo being removed from the story 400 chapters ago

 

[Julius]

The reason Sanji got the exoskeleton is for the very reason that his CoA is lacking.. Watch when he gets Hardening on Elbaf or whatever he will level up his Flames once more reaching the White color..

Actually it isn't

The Exoskeleton does thing that CoA masters can't

Oda didn't simply gave Sanji a better Haki through the Exoskeleton, it's something that can go far beyond what Armament Haki can do (as we are seeing in the manga right now, and also saw in Onigashima)

He's fighting an opponent far beyond the capabilities of Jabra.

False equivalency.

Chopper likely dog walks ennies lobby version of jabra

We can't even assume if Vergo used CoA or not tbh

His "full haki body" form doesn't show the CoA in his legs.

Spoiler

The fact Sanji mentioned his body being tough as iron could mean he was already using CoA to protect himself, which makes sense because that CoA was responsible for most of the hype around Vergo, we didn't see him using Tekkai once tho

 

[Rootbeer]

I don’t get why people still think Vergo has some top secret iron DF that Oda hasn’t revealed despite Vergo being removed from the story 400 chapters ago

I literally just explained it in this thread.. The Grey color is used to depict Iron, and Vergo's Hardening at the end differs from others in the series, he looks part Hardening, part Iron..

Actually it isn't

The Exoskeleton does thing that CoA masters can't

Oda didn't simply gave Sanji Haki through the Exoskeleton, it's something that can go far beyond that (as we are seeing in the manga right now, and also saw in Onigashima)

I think that's just how it is.. He gave Sanji the Exoskeleton because he was lacking in CoA.. Do you have an argument that could disprove my point?.. Maybe i'm missing something..

 

[Shiroyru]

I literally just explained it in this thread.. The Grey color is used to depict Iron, and Vergo's Hardening at the end differs from others in the series, he looks part Hardening, part Iron..




I think that's just how it is.. He gave Sanji the Exoskeleton because he was lacking in CoA.. Do you have an argument that could disprove my point?.. Maybe i'm missing something..

Why is Oda being so tight-lipped about this long dead character possessing a mediocre DF? Why did not one ever mention it in the manga? Why did Oda never mention it in an SBS or Vergo’s Vivre Card?

He didn’t have an iron DF. He was just compared to iron to hype up the toughness of his CoA

 

[Rootbeer]

Why is Oda being so tight-lipped about this long dead character possessing a mediocre DF? Why did not one ever mention it in the manga? Why did Oda never mention it in an SBS or Vergo’s Vivre Card?

He didn’t have an iron DF. He was just compared to iron to hype up the toughness of his CoA

Because he's another discarded plotline like many.. Doesn't change the fact that his body is the color of Iron..

 

[BillSlipton]

I never thought about Rokuogan like that, i need to check it out..

If they are similar as strenght being directly related to CoA, then ok..
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But isn't it interesting that against Gin and Vergo, he got injured prior to that in situations that was out of his control.. Like Oda purposely removed him from having a real fight against Gin and Vergo..

What about kuroobi, mr3, the captain of the monkeys In the davvy back fight, absalom, had a better showing than zoro vs aokiji, and shitted on the whole crew vs oars?

Give my man's some credit. We all know that sanji only struggles when he's hurt. And even then he still performs well despite the nerf.

 

[Rootbeer]

What about kuroobi, mr3, the captain of the monkeys In the davvy back fight, absalom, had a better showing than zoro vs aokiji, and shitted on the whole crew vs oars?

Give my man's some credit. We all know that sanji only struggles when he's hurt. And even then he still performs well despite the nerf.

No i was simply bringing examples where Sanji fought the 2nd in command of an enemy crew, but that didn't happen much in the series so far.. Do you want Sanji to have a extreme diff fight?.. Because i do..

 

[Julius]

I think that's just how it is.. He gave Sanji the Exoskeleton because he was lacking in CoA.. Do you have an argument that could disprove my point?.. Maybe i'm missing something..

He wasn't lacking CoA, thats why the Exoskeleton isn't CoA

Oda literally gave Queen an ability that could work on CoA Masters without problems, something that Sanji fully tanked without much trouble. The same goes for breaking Queen's sword in his neck

Giving Sanji better CoA (which also happened) wouldn't be the same

 

[BillSlipton]

No i was simply bringing examples where Sanji fought the 2nd in command of an enemy crew, but that didn't happen much in the series so far.. Do you want Sanji to have a extreme diff fight?.. Because i do..

I named nothing but leaders or rhm

Let's not forget sanji being introduced with all the rhm

Sanji sometime destroys the rhm. Kuroobi is a prime example. Other times sanji is nerfed beforehand. And still performs well. Such as with Gin and pearl.

Your bias is ridiculous

 

[Rootbeer]

I named nothing but leaders or rhm

Let's not forget sanji being introduced with all the rhm

Sanji sometime destroys the rhm. Kuroobi is a prime example. Other times sanji is nerfed beforehand. And still performs well. Such as with Gin and pearl.

Your bias is ridiculous

What you mean, Hacchi was the 2nd strongest..

Yeah that's my point the 2 times Sanji fought a 2nd in command, he was previously injured, that's all i said noticed with Gin & Vergo..