Powers & Abilities Vivre Card Pack New Bounty Reveal.

[sanjikun]

he was fighting fodders for 50 years

The older Beast Pirates know each other personally. So keep lying to yourself.

 

[MarineHQ]

That bubble has Future Sight, that's why. You want to discount the fact that Katakuri goes years without a single hit.

Bring me the list of competitors and I'll give him his credit. Creating a record against fodders isn't anything special.

 

[Finalbeta]

Perfect power scaling

Jack > Smoothie?

 

[sanjikun]

This is a power scaling discussion so we have to put him in the exact same situation as Marco.

He freaks out, forgets he’s fighting a fucking admiral, and turns around to run to Big Mom.

In this case, Kizaru doesn’t even need a Vice Admiral, he just ends it, like Aokiji just ending Jozu.

He's in Mochi form 99% of the time, and has Future Sight. You're making up fake hypotheticals that will never happen.

Any top dude will never be caught out that stupidly.

Bring me the list of competitors and I'll give him his credit. Creating a record against fodders isn't anything special.

How the fuck did Katakuri get Future Sight if he's only fighting fodders?

Oda specifically stated, Haki blooms in extreme situations. Rayleigh said only the "mightiest in the world" have Future Sight.

 

[Zowo]

Katakuri would never get clowned like this. Get over yourself.

A Vice Admiral in handcuffs took Marco out of the war.

Man got clowned by slow ass g3 luffy
And let s not forget tea party where he got clowned like a bum he is

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

He's in Mochi form 99% of the time, and has Future Sight. You're making up fake hypotheticals that will never happen.

Any top dude will never be caught out that stupidly.

“The fight is over if you look away for even a second.”
- Kizaru

“You can’t look away in a fight like this.”
- Aokiji

The only reason Jozu went down immediately while Marco didn’t is because of regen. Katakuri doesn’t have regen and would go down just like Jozu. No vice admiral needed

 

[sanjikun]

“The fight is over if you look away for even a second.” - Kizaru
“You can’t look away in a fight like this.” - Aokiji

The only reason Jozu went down immediately while Marco didn’t is because of regen. Katakuri doesn’t have regen and would go down just like Jozu.

Yes, show me a Top Tier that gets caught out in such a stupid way.

 

[mugiwalaw]

The older Beast Pirates know each other personally. So keep lying to yourself.

so what? does anything stated that he beat those older Beast Pirates too? nobody cant be beaten if any of those people never fought seriously.

like WB vs Roger or Kaido vs Big Mom... they always clash with each others but all of them never beat one anothers

 

[rerere]

Dude, Clash doesn't mean it would have been Equal!
Clash means they both were gonna attack
They were both facing each other & going at it
I didn't say Crocodile would win that Clash but saying Jozu would is just wishful thinking

Instead of answering that question, Oda chose to make Doffy interfere & they both ignore Jozu which is very humiliating for him
For example, do you imagine Kaido going to attack Mihawk & then Shanks stops him, sits on his back & talks with Mihawk as they both ignore Kaido & he doesn't say a single word ???

Ofc this Scenario cannot happen
The reason it happened with Jozu is simply because Doffy & Crocodile are Superior

Aight I probably misreaded you. I thought that you were implying an equal clash incoming between the two.
You might think that mine is wishful thinking since I'm assuming that Jozu would've pushed Crocodile back but the point is: what kind of response did Croco have for the incoming Brilliant Punk?
By the time Doffy stopped him, Jozu was literally in front of Croc as we can see here and Crocodile wasn't preparing something:

Spoiler

What was Crocodile going to do to stop that angry diamond mass coming at him?

I like Sir Crocodile a lot, but thinking rationally I really don't see that scenario switching to Croco having the upper hand without Doffy's arrival...

 

[Hanzo hattori]

Jack > Smoothie?

Possible but for now Jack = Smoothie :cheers:

 

[Bil02]

How is Katakuri not special when no one could beat him for 50 years? Are you right in the head?

Katakuri's hype is also related to his fighting record,him being undefeated for 50 years only tells us he never fought someone stronger than Wci Luffy in his entire life.

I know you have Wci Luffy as above all commanders which even if true(I don't necessarily think it is),doesn't justify Katakuri's hype.

Which is the reason why no one could beat him for 50 years, and the reason Marco can't lay a hand on him.

Who did Katakuri fight again during those 50 years?

 

[sanjikun]

Katakuri's hype is also related to his fighting record,him being undefeated for 50 years only tells us he never fought someone stronger than Wci Luffy in his entire life.

I know you have Wci Luffy as above all commanders which even if true(I don't necessarily think it is),doesn't justifies Katakuri's hype.

Who did Katakuri fight again during those 50 years?

Katakuri fought against people strong enough to give him Future Sight, which not even Kaido and Big Mom have.

 

[Hanzo hattori]

They placed Izo below Chinjao seems like his bounty is 541m at best

 

[MarineHQ]

They placed Izo below Chinjao seems like his bounty is 541m at best

Which is still great. 500M for Izo is hype

 

[mugiwalaw]

Katakuri fought against people strong enough to give him Future Sight, which not even Kaido and Big Mom have.

so you mean Kaido or Big Mom never fought someone strong for every second they live? lmao what a logic

 

[Finalbeta]

Possible but for now Jack = Smoothie :cheers:

I would favor the girl but she has been disappointing me much. In reality she hasn't done much to prove she is either weak or strong, she didn't quite seem to be afraid of taking action so it's actually very debatable.

 

[Salah WG]

Aight I probably misreaded you. I thought that you were implying an equal clash incoming between the two.
You might think that mine is wishful thinking since I'm assuming that Jozu would've pushed Crocodile back but the point is: what kind of response did Croco have for the incoming Brilliant Punk?
By the time Doffy stopped him, when Jozu was literally in front of Croc as we can see here:

Spoiler

What was Crocodile going to do to stop that angry diamond mass coming at him?

I like Sir Crocodile a lot, but thinking rationally I really don't see that scenario switching to Croco having the upper hand without Doffy's arrival...

You think Oda would make Doffy stop the Stronger Opponent & Hype the Weaker One?!
Come on man, be Rational
And that wasn't the First Panel where Doffy stopped Jozu, don't lie to yourself, it's not nice

You know that Crocodile ate a Devil Fruit right? Or does he have to play with your Rules?
Actually we did saw Crocodile use Sables right after this Conversation so it was clear he was gonna use that

Stop underestimating Crocodile please
He have Rivalry with Doflamingo, they both ignored Jozu
He didn't care about anyone in WB Crew except WB himself & even called his Old & Sick Version "Weak" & not worth fighting anymore
Gorosei went Crazy after his Defeat & said the Balance is at Risk
Doflamingo considered Law his Inferior & should become his Subordinate but he considers Crocodile his Equal & wants an Alliance with him

In Movie Stampede, it was said that he had a Draw against Undefeated Young Bullet who only lost against Roger & Garp/Sengoku Duo
He showed Awakening & excellent Stats in everything, he also saved Luffy from Mihawk & Akainu
Sengoku said he thought they were very lucky to have him against WB & the guy participated in Summit War fighting both sides

You're throwing everything that Oda built for this Character, just because Jozu surprised him with an Attack
That's Crazy !!

Put yourself in Oda's Perspective Man, he made so much Effort to Hype Crocodile so many times & made him an Important Major Character in OP World & Story in general & you think he suddenly decided to make some Yonko Commander with 10 chapters screen time Stronger than him & then made him lose his arm & make his exit??

I swear this is Insane, you people sometimes forget this Manga is written by some guy & didn't fall from the sky
When Oda wants to Highlight a Commander, he treats him the way he done Katakuri or Shiryu, not the way he treats Smoothie

 

[Kiku]

They gotta keep revo bounties low or else they'll make Kuma look bad

 

[sanjikun]

so you mean Kaido or Big Mom never fought someone strong for every second they live? lmao what a logic

"What a logic" is not a sentence. Other than Kata, the only other people possibly with FS are Haki experts like Shanks or Mihawk.

 

[mugiwalaw]

"What a logic" is not a sentence. Other than Kata, the only other people possibly with FS are Haki experts like Shanks or Mihawk.

oh sanjikun stop expanding nonsense and please stick to the question