General & Others Wado and sandai power ups

[Albino 👑]

Zoro’s current set of swords includes wado ichimonji, sandai kitetsu, and enma. Imo each sword is going to play a big role in Zoro getting stronger

Zoro gained king of hell in wano during his fight with king. With the form massively boosting his armament output aka attack power

For wado it’s not going to help increase his power output like enma but it might help against shiryu. With it potentially playing a role in an other new form but this time involving observation haki. Basically like a more extreme version of when he unlocked haki again daz. Zoro being able to completely sense shiryu despite not being able to see him
It’d be cool if as a visual representation of the form he opens his scar

Finally his kitetsu it might have some ties to how zoro is capable of activating asura. It also out of the 3 blades he has is the one he’s most likely to have replaced by a different blade. If he for some reason does get a new sword I can imagine him upgrading to shodai kitetsu
With shodai maybe he will be capable of using a stronger version of his current asura and/or just be able to use it longer as a stable form. As for where he gets it maybe from nasjuro but other then that idk

 

[The White Crane]

Zoro’s current set of swords includes wado ichimonji, sandai kitetsu, and enma. Imo each sword is going to play a big role in Zoro getting stronger

Zoro gained king of hell in wano during his fight with king. With the form massively boosting his armament output aka attack power

For wado it’s not going to help increase his power output like enma but it might help against shiryu. With it potentially playing a role in an other new form but this time involving observation haki. Basically like a more extreme version of when he unlocked haki again daz. Zoro being able to completely sense shiryu despite not being able to see him
It’d be cool if as a visual representation of the form he opens his scar

Finally his kitetsu it might have some ties to how zoro is capable of activating asura. It also out of the 3 blades he has is the one he’s most likely to have replaced by a different blade. If he for some reason does get a new sword I can imagine him upgrading to shodai kitetsu
With shodai maybe he will be capable of using a stronger version of his current asura and/or just be able to use it longer as a stable form. As for where he gets it maybe from nasjuro but other then that idk

Dude, you do know Lolda already discarded all the blades plotlines back in Wano, yes?

 

[Salah WG]

Panel that says Swords can grant Wielder Abilities that They didn't have within them?
It's like saying a Gun can generate Bullets, not Use the ones that you put in it

Swords are simply Tools to let User Unleash their Full Power
Not grant such Power

Why not create a Thread about how Usopp's Post-TS Slingshot is the reason He Unlocked CoO in Dressrosa lol

 

[Boiroy]

There's one more ⚔️ that will go inside your bum

 

[Albino 👑]

Dude, you do know Lolda already discarded all the blades plotlines back in Wano, yes?

Eh I very much doubt that tbh
Just because he didn’t reveal it all in wano doesn’t mean we’re not gonna get more

 

[mly90]

Panel that says Swords can grant Wielder Abilities that They didn't have within them?
It's like saying a Gun can generate Bullets, not Use the ones that you put in it

Swords are simply Tools to let User Unleash their Full Power
Not grant such Power

Why not create a Thread about how Usopp's Post-TS Slingshot is the reason He Unlocked CoO in Dressrosa lol

Albino has always been obsessed with with the idea of swords being Zoro's devil fruit lmao you won't see him speculating Gryphon is the reason why shanks haki has such long reach for example. In the latest sbs Loda confirmed for those in denial kamusari was in fact sword technique

Was it the supreme grade meito Ace that invented all the sword techniques Roger used

 

[zenox]

well u see , if u read the manga then u will very will know swords dont give the wielder special abilities

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Zoro being able to completely sense shiryu despite not being able to see him

There’s this thing called observation haki that can do this

it’s a thing Zoro can already do

 

[nik87]

Albino with another low tier bait thread.

 

[Albino 👑]

Albino has always been obsessed with with the idea of swords being Zoro's devil fruit lmao you won't see him speculating Gryphon is the reason why shanks haki has such long reach for example. In the latest sbs Loda confirmed for those in denial kamusari was in fact sword technique

Was it the supreme grade meito Ace that invented all the sword techniques Roger used

Special swords have been a thing since the east blue
Also it’s surprising easier to speculate for zoro who’s power ups we’ve seen throughout the story compared to roger

Same way it’s ame no habakiri was probably the Ying to enma’s Yang. So it’s possible to speculate it might be tied to observation haki maybe
Or the opposite with momo. He might get nidai that is more power based than habakiri
Or cavendish who’s hakuba personality might be tied to his sword

There’s this thing called observation haki that can do this

it’s a thing Zoro can already do

Zoro also already had armament pre enma. Doesn’t mean it can’t help enhance it once he better masters the blade

 

[Afroking]

Their power ups is them becoming Black blades and reinforcing their strong points along with whatever else BB bring in.

 

[Albino 👑]

Their power ups is them becoming Black blades and reinforcing their strong points along with whatever else BB bring in.

Do you think zoro will keep sandai or upgrade it?
Also they’re going to need strong points first before they’re reinforced

 

[The White Crane]

Eh I very much doubt that tbh
Just because he didn’t reveal it all in wano doesn’t mean we’re not gonna get more

What reason is even there to doubt that? Those swords are irrelevant outside of Wano. Even if I'm wrong, there really is no point to the lore of the swords at this point (if it is even a thing anymore).

 

[Albino 👑]

What reason is even there to doubt that? Those swords are irrelevant outside of Wano. Even if I'm wrong, there really is no point to the lore of the swords at this point (if it is even a thing anymore).

Lots of things can open up the sword lore plot line back up tbh

1. The possibility of zoro getting a new sword
2. Shodai in general
3. Momo potentially getting nidai
4. Maybe eventually getting habakiri hype
5. Asura eventually getting explained whether or not it’s actually tied
6. Zoro vs shiryu if wado becomes relevant
7. Learning about black blades
8. Learning about yoru
9. Hakuba maybe
10. Nasjuro maybe

The door definitely isn’t closed yet
Like will all those things lead to sword lore idk maybe not but some of them should. Similar to how we have yet to get a real explanation on Sanji’s fire powers. There have been multiple opportunities and it’s probably tied to sora/science but oda is just saving it for later for better or worse

 

[Afroking]

Do you think zoro will keep sandai or upgrade it?
Also they’re going to need strong points first before they’re reinforced

The only sword that hasn't have its strong points shown is wado.

Kitetsu has quite the sharp blade .
Enma is too destructive.

Based on that real ife book there will end up being 15 supremes,so unless the previous rank of the blade doesn't matter,then Zoro will change sandai.On the other hand Oda even had ippomatsu shown vs King. His dreams go along with Sandai now that yubashiri bit the dust.

Personally I would like the change.

 

[Herrera95]

With the form massively boosting his armament output

Cap. The form just obligates him to go all out is like G4. And he is not only going all out with CoA but CoC too.

 

[Albino 👑]

The only sword that hasn't have its strong points shown is wado.

Kitetsu has quite the sharp blade .
Enma is too destructive.

Based on that real ife book there will end up being 15 BB,so unless the previous rank of the blade doesn't matter,then Zoro will change sandai.On the other hand Oda even had ippomatsu shown vs King. His dreams go along with Sandai now that yubashiri bit the dust.

Personally I would like the change.

Do you mean 15 supreme grade or black blade? If you ment supreme sandai wouldn’t be one based on shusui not being one

Yeah it would be kinda fucked if Zoro replaced both the swords he gave him lol
If zoro has to have it when he becomes wss maybe he can swap if after. There might be more fights after luffy becomes pirate king and zoro wss so it isn’t impossible. That way it’s a win win

 

[Afroking]

Do you mean 15 supreme grade or black blade? If you ment supreme sandai wouldn’t be one based on shusui not being one

Yeah it would be kinda fucked if Zoro replaced both the swords he gave him lol
If zoro has to have it when he becomes wss maybe he can swap if after. There might be more fights after luffy becomes pirate king and zoro wss so it isn’t impossible. That way it’s a win win

Yes 15 supremes.
We don't know Shushui's rank(before becomig BB) or how they are even ranked for that matter.Becoming BB doesn't necessarily mean that a sword can only reach the next level of quality.


There aren't that many fights lefts for Zoro in general. For him to just chamge a sword after reaching his dream for a final fight is meh.

 

[Albino 👑]

Yes 15 supremes.
We don't know Shushui's rank(before becomig BB) or how they are even ranked for that matter.Becoming BB doesn't necessarily mean that a sword can only reach the next level of quality.


There aren't that many fights lefts for Zoro in general. For him to just chamge a sword after reaching his dream for a final fight is meh.

I guess but doubt it’d end up the same rank as wado and enma. Maybe it’s possible but eh

Yeah not the most ideal but if zoro does replace it and does keep sandai to be wss it’s the only real possibility. Unless 1 of them just ends up not being the case

 

[Afroking]

I guess but doubt it’d end up the same rank as wado and enma. Maybe it’s possible but eh

Yeah not the most ideal but if zoro does replace it and does keep sandai to be wss it’s the only real possibility. Unless 1 of them just ends up not being the case

I think a sword in Elbaf the Warrior nation is much better than keepin a bad grade sword of a Kozuki. It would be different if it was from a shimotsuki,but a Kozuki one ?No bueno.