Powers & Abilities Wado Ichimonji and Enma

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#22
All the techniques are due to ryou. I am just assuming that wado makes flames and enma cuts flames. So that is just a technique Kinemon knows.

All we know right now is about the swords are:
Enma likes to make unwated cuts
sandai is bloodthirsty
Yoru knows no restraint
Could that be the haki/will of the most prominent users of the sword.
 
#23
People saying Zoro needs to train to get a handle of Enma. But watch my mine get a grasp of it in 1 day because of Ichimonji and pretty much get a PU. People still will be saying he had to work hard lol.
 
#25
People saying Zoro needs to train to get a handle of Enma. But watch my mine get a grasp of it in 1 day because of Ichimonji and pretty much get a PU. People still will be saying he had to work hard lol.
You realize Mastering Enma is Zoro reaching Oden levels of strength... You expect Zoro JUST reach that level off the rip?

This literally just means he was already near Oden’s level before even starting the arc since all Wado helps is with familiarity of having used it for like 10 years. Wado doesn’t give Zoro powers to control Enma like it’s a super power or something

If Zoro just reaches a Oden Level in a day it would mean he was right behind Oden from the start meaning he was verging on First Commander Level at the very start of theatc already
 
#29
You coming this thread to say what you said... which is wrong... and then saying you’re too exasperated to defend your wrong statement

Sure
Ok fine.

You realize Mastering Enma is Zoro reaching Oden levels of strength... You expect Zoro JUST reach that level off the rip?

This literally just means he was already near Oden’s level before even starting the arc since all Wado helps is with familiarity of having used it for like 10 years. Wado doesn’t give Zoro powers to control Enma like it’s a super power or something

If Zoro just reaches a Oden Level in a day it would mean he was right behind Oden from the start meaning he was verging on First Commander Level at the very start of theatc already
Bullshit headcannon.

No he wasnt...he has potential to be that lvl of Oden. The familarity of Wado is helping in helping get to grasp with Enma. He will master before the FF. Wado helps him in learning how use such blades.

It wont take him long to reach that lvl. But then again it doesnt matter since Kaido will low diff him since he aint gonna let the same shit work twice.

Lmao Luffy gonna come in and give him Sanji's speech to Usopp. Hes gonna tell Zoro that he will do what he cant do. And Luffy will then defeat Kaido:gokulaugh::milaugh:
 
#30
Bullshit headcannon.

No he wasnt...he has potential to be that lvl of Oden. The familarity of Wado is helping in helping get to grasp with Enma. He will master before the FF. Wado helps him in learning how use such blades.
Tenguyama : “The only Swordsman Before or after who has EVER tamed this sword was Oden”

Zoro : “If I get used to this sword, I’ll be stronger”

Tenguyama : “You are getting used to Enma quickly because of your familiarity with Wado already since they are made by the same person”

Tenguyama : “This sword is yet to be a black blade but in your hands, it will rise in the ranks”

You realize not even Oden made Enma black and yet tenguyama witnessing Zoro’s strength is already talking about Zoro potentially surpassing Oden to make the sword black

But according to you Zoro is gonna end this arc, “near Oden’s Level but not quite” and even then, he won’t have reached that “Near Oden Level” without Wado feeding him mystical Enma using powers as if Hitetsu didn’t just say it was Zoro’s familiarity with a similar blade and nothing else
 
#31
Tenguyama : “The only Swordsman Before or after who has EVER tamed this sword was Oden”

Zoro : “If I get used to this sword, I’ll be stronger”

Tenguyama : “You are getting used to Enma quickly because of your familiarity with Wado already since they are made by the same person”

Tenguyama : “This sword is yet to be a black blade but in your hands, it will rise in the ranks”

You realize not even Oden made Enma black and yet tenguyama witnessing Zoro’s strength is already talking about Zoro potentially surpassing Oden to make the sword black

But according to you Zoro is gonna end this arc, “near Oden’s Level but not quite” and even then, he won’t have reached that “Near Oden Level” without Wado feeding him mystically Enma using powers as if Hitetsu didn’t just say it was Zoro’s familiarity with a similar blade and nothing else
When in earth did I say any of this. You just gon put words in my mouth or is that just a specialty of your fanbase. I already said Zoro has the potential to be Oden lvl, if you could read you would see it. I also believe Zoro will be YC1 lvl at the end of the arc. So shut up and stop lying about me.
 
#32
what if the wado ichimonji allows the user to have a high level of control over their haki.
this could explain how zoro was able to use haki like powers in the fight against mr 1.

due to wado, zoro is able to prevent his haki from being sucked by enma
 
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ardym

#34
for sure Zoro will have some extra abilities because he has both of them . they might complement each other
 
#35
When in earth did I say any of this. You just gon put words in my mouth or is that just a specialty of your fanbase. I already said Zoro has the potential to be Oden lvl, if you could read you would see it. I also believe Zoro will be YC1 lvl at the end of the arc. So shut up and stop lying about me.
You said “People saying Zoro needs to train to get a handle of Enma. But watch my mine get a grasp of it in 1 day because of Ichimonji and pretty much get a PU. People still will be saying he had to work hard lol”

So you said he doesn’t need to train really because Wado Ichimonji somehow gives him Enma controlling powers and he doesn’t need hard work

Am I reading what you said up there correctly?

That Tenguyama didn’t just say Zoro’s whole training career with Wado Ichimonji is itself not what’s helped Zoro reach this level since he’s familiar with a similar sword. And Zoro doesn’t need hard work for some reason yet he’s already trained 5 days and there’s no sign that he’s mastered the sword yet but you’re saying he needs one day???

In fact, Tenguyama literally starts the chapter by saying “This Blade is on the same level as Shusui” and it’s a Zoro who says “I’llbecome stronger BECAUSE I’ve managed to control this sword” not “I’ll become stronger BECAUSE I have this sword”

Please, help me understand what you’re going for since the way I read your post was YOU COMPLETELY MISUNDERSTOOD the chapter
 
#36
You said “People saying Zoro needs to train to get a handle of Enma. But watch my mine get a grasp of it in 1 day because of Ichimonji and pretty much get a PU. People still will be saying he had to work hard lol”

So you said he doesn’t need to train really because Wado Ichimonji somehow gives him Enma controlling powers and he doesn’t need hard work

Am I reading what you said up there correctly?

That Tenguyama didn’t just say Zoro’s whole training career with Wado Ichimonji is itself not what’s helped Zoro reach this level since he’s familiar with a similar sword. And Zoro doesn’t need hard work for some reason yet he’s already trained 5 days and there’s no sign that he’s mastered the sword yet but you’re saying he needs one day???

In fact, Tenguyama literally starts the chapter by saying “This Blade is on the same level as Shusui” and it’s a Zoro who says “I’llbecome stronger BECAUSE I’ve managed to control this sword” not “I’ll become stronger BECAUSE I have this sword”

Please, help me understand what you’re going for since the way I read your post was YOU COMPLETELY MISUNDERSTOOD the chapter
Im not talking about that dummy. Im talking about how you lied and said that I said that Zoro will reach near Oden lvl at the end of Wano. When I clearly said no such thing. Now you tryna change it. JUST STOP.
 
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ardym

#37
what if the wado ichimonji allows the user to have a high level of control over their haki.
this could explain how zoro was able to use haki like powers in the fight against mr 1.

due to wado, zoro is able to prevent his haki from being sucked by enma
well Wado have sor sure some abilities that were not point out yet. he was used to cut Mr.1 (use Breath of all thing) and was used to cut Ryuma (ignite some fire) i think both of the abilities are related to haki
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#38
Im not talking about that dummy. Im talking about how you lied and said that I said that Zoro will reach near Oden lvl at the end of Wano. When I clearly said no such thing. Now you tryna change it. JUST STOP.
Hes near oden level by even being able to pick up and use enma.
 
#39
Im not talking about that dummy. Im talking about how you lied and said that I said that Zoro will reach near Oden lvl at the end of Wano. When I clearly said no such thing. Now you tryna change it. JUST STOP.
Okay sure... But have I misunderstood what you originally said? Because if I haven’t, then you still misunderstood the chapter greatly
 
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