Controversial Wano is bad, and that is inexcusable.

MUUGEN

呪のろいの王
#50
Wouldn't you be the crybaby here? Crying at one of the few users who engages in good-faith/constructive criticism?
lol then go post in one of the other hundreds of threads that are exactly the same as this one.

not sure why you "one of the few users who engages in good-faith/constructive criticism" had to go and create a whole new thread when we get a new one every month
 
#51
if even one of the biggest oda's angel in this forum is saying this...
just because I’m not a rabid hater doesn’t mean I’m an angel or whatever you wanna call me.
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On this forum? With the state of negativity?
You are definitely a farmer.
I have a life outside this forum dude. Plus I don’t think you can accuse me of that when I’m one of the few users here who doesn’t actively disrespect the author. You just can’t help but to get triggered everytime someone disagrees with your opinion.
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lol then go post in one of the other hundreds of threads that are exactly the same as this one.

not sure why you "one of the few users who engages in good-faith/constructive criticism" had to go and create a whole new thread when we get a new one every month
Im not actively engaging in these threads and I’ve never personally seen them. I wanted to speak my truth since I’ve defended Wano before. If you’re so triggered and annoyed about my opinion you can always keep it to yourself.
 

MUUGEN

呪のろいの王
#52
Im not actively engaging in these threads and I’ve never personally seen them. I wanted to speak my truth since I’ve defended Wano before. If you’re so triggered and annoyed about my opinion you can always keep it to yourself.
no i am annoyed with the constant whining and crying from the supposed "fandom" about a story that isnt even their own its Odas story, a few things you were complaining about, Oda writes and changes his direction on the fly all the time this has been shown plenty of times throughout the story of OP, Oda has an idea and doesnt always go with his original idea or plan cause he is such a creative that the previous idea doesnt fit the narrative any longer. Secondly Wano is and always was a war arc to begin with this was well known and stated when he compared it to MF prior to even writing Wano, so no we didnt need to dive further into all the characters that "we love" you do realize that was the point of entirety of pre-ts we already dived into just about every SH backstory, we do not need full arcs or deep dive backstories of the main cast and majority of the key and major players of Wano, additionally Oda has already tried to implement a deadline of 5 years to complete the current stroyline so no we do not need a full deep dive into every single side character that isnt going to be a major character moving forward. You even complained about Oniwabanshu which was such a small and insignificant part of the story of wano to begin with. Lastly Wano was a story for Kaido and Oden in which we covered both sides of their storyline and even dived further into Kaido and BM in the latest arc. the same bs you are crying about is the same issues that happens toe very single successful big manga, bleach saturated with too much creative expression in characters that some were lacking when "we" wanted them to shine, naruto is another perfect example. the truth is oda has already told us he creates as he goes he has an overall idea but pivots based on what HE enjoys cause it is HIS story and what he deems important for the remainder of the story.

so once agaiin just stfu and enjoy the manga cause we are fortunate to have gotten 20+ years of this story and ODa is allowed to write and draw what he enjoys, and we are going to get a finished project as long as his health is in order unlike many other well loved manga that are in indefinite hiatus.
 
#53
no i am annoyed with the constant whining and crying from the supposed "fandom" about a story that isnt even their own its Odas story, a few things you were complaining about, Oda writes and changes his direction on the fly all the time this has been shown plenty of times throughout the story of OP, Oda has an idea and doesnt always go with his original idea or plan cause he is such a creative that the previous idea doesnt fit the narrative any longer. Secondly Wano is and always was a war arc to begin with this was well known and stated when he compared it to MF prior to even writing Wano, so no we didnt need to dive further into all the characters that "we love" you do realize that was the point of entirety of pre-ts we already dived into just about every SH backstory, we do not need full arcs or deep dive backstories of the main cast and majority of the key and major players of Wano, additionally Oda has already tried to implement a deadline of 5 years to complete the current stroyline so no we do not need a full deep dive into every single side character that isnt going to be a major character moving forward. You even complained about Oniwabanshu which was such a small and insignificant part of the story of wano to begin with. Lastly Wano was a story for Kaido and Oden in which we covered both sides of their storyline and even dived further into Kaido and BM in the latest arc. the same bs you are crying about is the same issues that happens toe very single successful big manga, bleach saturated with too much creative expression in characters that some were lacking when "we" wanted them to shine, naruto is another perfect example. the truth is oda has already told us he creates as he goes he has an overall idea but pivots based on what HE enjoys cause it is HIS story and what he deems important for the remainder of the story.

so once agaiin just stfu and enjoy the manga cause we are fortunate to have gotten 20+ years of this story and ODa is allowed to write and draw what he enjoys, and we are going to get a finished project as long as his health is in order unlike many other well loved manga that are in indefinite hiatus.
Use some paragraphs please.

It shouldn't be controversial to express dissatisfaction with some aspects of a story one generally likes. The 'just consooom' mindset is rather questionable
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Within the same page, the same guy is called an Oda Angel and an Oda hater over the exact same post.
This forum is funny
 
#54
no i am annoyed with the constant whining and crying from the supposed "fandom" about a story that isnt even their own its Odas story, a few things you were complaining about, Oda writes and changes his direction on the fly all the time this has been shown plenty of times throughout the story of OP, Oda has an idea and doesnt always go with his original idea or plan cause he is such a creative that the previous idea doesnt fit the narrative any longer. Secondly Wano is and always was a war arc to begin with this was well known and stated when he compared it to MF prior to even writing Wano, so no we didnt need to dive further into all the characters that "we love" you do realize that was the point of entirety of pre-ts we already dived into just about every SH backstory, we do not need full arcs or deep dive backstories of the main cast and majority of the key and major players of Wano, additionally Oda has already tried to implement a deadline of 5 years to complete the current stroyline so no we do not need a full deep dive into every single side character that isnt going to be a major character moving forward. You even complained about Oniwabanshu which was such a small and insignificant part of the story of wano to begin with. Lastly Wano was a story for Kaido and Oden in which we covered both sides of their storyline and even dived further into Kaido and BM in the latest arc. the same bs you are crying about is the same issues that happens toe very single successful big manga, bleach saturated with too much creative expression in characters that some were lacking when "we" wanted them to shine, naruto is another perfect example. the truth is oda has already told us he creates as he goes he has an overall idea but pivots based on what HE enjoys cause it is HIS story and what he deems important for the remainder of the story.

so once agaiin just stfu and enjoy the manga cause we are fortunate to have gotten 20+ years of this story and ODa is allowed to write and draw what he enjoys, and we are going to get a finished project as long as his health is in order unlike many other well loved manga that are in indefinite hiatus.
I ain't reading all that my dude. If you can't take respectful and constructive criticism, then I guess it's fair to call you an Oda angel (as much as I hate using that term)

Of all the unreasonable haters in this forum, it is rich and kinda hilarious how you chose to pick a fight with me.

Oda ain't a god. One Piece by its very nature can't be perfect, and it is fair to call out what I think is subpar writing, since I am comparing Wano with other One Piece arcs in the first place. I respect Oda a lot, but I'm not gonna just worship everything he does. He CAN and WILL make mistakes.
 

MUUGEN

呪のろいの王
#55
I ain't reading all that my dude. If you can't take respectful and constructive criticism, then I guess it's fair to call you an Oda angel (as much as I hate using that term)

Of all the unreasonable haters in this forum, it is rich and kinda hilarious how you chose to pick a fight with me.

Oda ain't a god. One Piece by its very nature can't be perfect, and it is fair to call out what I think is subpar writing, since I am comparing Wano with other One Piece arcs in the first place. I respect Oda a lot, but I'm not gonna just worship everything he does. He CAN and WILL make mistakes.
doesnt read it all says im fighting and being a hater yeah stfu man

an oda angel lmfao
 
#60
1. Orochi should be a strong swordman
2. Kanjurou fake deaths was super annoying to me, clearly a mean to drag the arc.
3. BM motherly mode crap
4. BM too old that she forgot to have acoc few minutes later.
5. The great BMP was so threatening just for them to have a picnic under the waterfall and then given offpaneled fight against wg fleet.
6. ODEN
7. ETC

Yeah this is repetitive but i still cant move on from how disappointed I am despite rarely complain.
 
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