General & Others Wano is very dissapointing. 1039 might be the most cursed chapter in the story.

[EmperorKinyagi]

I’m not gonna be cringe and just call Wano “woe-tale” without explaining anything or have a mental breakdown and go on a crazy tirade like @ShishioIsBack

I think there is a massive expectations/pay off problem with this arc.

Furthermore, I don’t think it’s my fault or any other readers fault for finding the pay-off unsatisfying or having bad/unrealistic expectations. I think the story itself is literally structured in a manner that spends far too much time on build up and far too little time with the actual events that were built up towards.

The Tobiroppo? Underwhelming conclusion.
Hawkins? Underwhelming conclusion.
The Calamities? Underwhelming (yes, even King) conclusion.
Even before the raid. Oden vs Kaido and the hour of legends? Underwhelming.

I can somewhat accept the above stuff, but if Big Mom goes down unsatisfyingly in 1039, I think it will pretty egregious.

What was the point of building her up as a crazy monster for 200+ chapters and giving her a massive role in this arc? Just a “even rain can bring down mountains” quote from Kidd, and that’s it?

Uggh. That’s so terrible.

People complain about lack of tension in a war, or about lack of character moments, etc.

I think the real problem with Wano is a lot more basic than that and related to story structure and setting the reader’s expectations.

 

[ShinmenTakezo]

Yonkou saga in total, worst OP saga.

 

[MonsterKaido]

With BM it's a lose lose situation

--She gets K.O.ed -- Too underwhelming for a top tier

--She gets throw out of onigashima or becomes olin -- Why bring her in wano then?

--She wins ; what's next? She backstabs kaido? Again why bring her in wano

 

[Finalbeta]

King's conclusion wasn't underwhelming at all, it's just the Grandmaster to always end up proving overwhelming :cheers:

 

[Herrera95]

A poll with 2 questions inside one and only 1 answer that would nullify the other question.

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Your thread is odd. You complain about not meeting expectations but also said you could accepted those conclusions if BM wins her battle.

I agree that the structure and hitting your own expectations is one of the biggest thing making this arc bad. If all Yonko crew didn't had that much expectation created by Oda himself would be less worse than it is.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

With BM it's a lose lose situation

--She gets K.O.ed -- Too underwhelming for a top tier

--She gets throw out of onigashima or becomes olin -- Why bring her in wano then?

--She wins ; what's next? She backstabs kaido? Again why bring her in wano

TbF the middle option let’s her be written out of the story and that’s A-okay. One less Yonko in the narrative, which accomplishes the goal of defeating them perfectly.

 

[Buggy06]

Tama, Smile, BM Pirates, Scabbards, flying six, calamities, Orochi and the list goes on. I don't know which one is the worse. Also there is no tension.

I loved the flashbacks tho.

 

[Date]

I dont like the Wano characters plots like Hyo and the scabbards, but the only things that made me disapointed are Franky and Jinbei fights being to fast and P1 and Ulti not fightig Ussop and Nami, but Zoro, Sanji, Killer and Robin fights were cool, Luffy vs Kaido is a good fight, and i dont see why u guys cope soo much with BM being defeat by Kid and Law, she is the secondary antagonist being defeated by the secondary supernovas, while Luffy who is the stronger supernova defeat Kaido who is the main boss.



Some of u guys build soo much headcanon that everything become a shitstorm when the headcanon dont happen

 

[Gear]

Some of u guys build soo much headcanon that everything become a shitstorm when the headcanon dont happen

:cheers::cheers:

 

[L55]

Post ts is ass

 

[Jew D. Boy]

Think the “Wano sucks” hot take has finally cooled enough that the pendulum has swung in the other direction, now it’s more edgelord to say you enjoy the arc…I don’t know, I’m digging it at times, but I turned my brain off while reading this series quite a long time ago so I don’t get my hopes up too high, just wish it wasn’t so obvious that the author has begun doing the same thing

 

[godxxhenry]

she is the secondary antagonist being defeated by the secondary supernovas, while Luffy who is the stronger supernova defeat Kaido who is the main boss.

Big Mom *took* the secondary role would be ideal.

And that was nothing more than Oda's incompetence in dealing with both equally, an equality that he himself made a point of highlighting in numerous balloons until then.

"Let's face two yonkous"
"She's as strong as Kaido"
And many other citations that place them as equivalents, when clearly there is a discrepancy in how the two have been worked on so far.

 

[Finalbeta]

Post ts is ass

That's because the Grandmaster missed too much action

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

With BM it's a lose lose situation

--She gets K.O.ed -- Too underwhelming for a top tier

--She gets throw out of onigashima or becomes olin -- Why bring her in wano then?

--She wins ; what's next? She backstabs kaido? Again why bring her in wano

That's why you have to considered the odd of Big Mom getting defeated but will return in Elbaf.

 

[Finalbeta]

I hope Elbaf shall prove revolutionary when it boils down to our man Usopp to shine.