Break Week Wano, not even a top 10 arc?
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Asura not being explained is arguably better than the CoC which we do see what's needed to develop, and Zoro simply jumping past all that to use it without even knowing he had it. At least it's indicated in EL that Zoro & Sanji new about those abilities beforehand and purposefully chose to use them. On the other hand, the Wano one is like seeing all that it took for Luffy to get future sight, only for Chopper to develop future sight in the next arc without even knowing he had observation haki. Luffy said it himself, his ryuo attacks hurt Kaido but were too shallow and relatively so pointless that Kaido knocked him out once he got him in 1 on 1. Upon immediately applying CoC coating, a single hit could no longer knock him out and he could do far more damage than before. That's incomparable to EL where Luffy only needed Gear 2 & 3 which he had used beforehand to finish the job.
The EL fights also had far more tension, it's not even comparable. There was no one saying "I don't think we could possibly lose" or miracle pills to put people back in fighting shape, or powerful people stepping in to win the Strawhats' fights for them. Usopp also outright lost to Jyabura and was going to be killed before Sanji stepped in, and Nami & Zoro actually acted like that was the case. On the other hand, Usopp, Nami & Tama were making jokey crying faces when Big Mom was about to attack them. Every time a key was obtained it was emphasized how much further away Robin was getting. No one doubted for a moment that Luffy falling into the sea was a big issue, and it was immediately resolved the following chapter with his newfound telepathic abilities, killing any iota of tension. Zoro being wrapped in bandages was solved by a miracle pill for an instant fix back into fighting shape. Nami actually had to use her wits to overcome Kalifa's abilities and win instead of Big Mom showing up to do most of the work for her, or a sentient cloud finishing it for her because she missed on her own. The Sanji getting trapped is also tedious with how lazily it is set up, with Luffy & Jimbe just ignoring him and wasting time when it was obvious Sanji wouldn't be fighting Black Maria. It also showed no progress when we already knew since Ennie Lobby that Sanji accepted his friends working to their strengths, even telling Usopp to go do what he was good at. It was just an unnecessary & repetitive tool to find a way to delay Sanji's fight without allowing him to go to the rooftop to mess up the Supernova theme.
The Raid being successful is not the issue. The characters basically treating it like a walk in the park and even secondary characters getting beat up only to return multiple times is the issue.
The fact you even have to specify "first time around" for Kanjuro says it all. Does anyone actually think that Ashura Doji is actually dead at this point? Pulling a fake out with Luffy is an issue when no one is going to buy it anyone, so why even try? The fact that the sheer numbers of fakeout deaths surpass the EL one by far, and they didn't even wait till the main action was mostly underway just brutalizes the tension more than any other arc.
As for "Camp-i-wanna-go-train" the solutions are easy and multiple: don't put him in that situation in the first place. Training can still be done outside of prison in many ways since ryuo is a common concept in Wano anyway. There are many writing routes that could avoid that entire fiasco that was also overly long.
Everyone is certainly free to have their own opinion. At the end of the day it comes down to what someone cares most about for their enjoyment. Wano has simply not been anywhere near as enjoyable as an arc like EL with the blatant issues in plot and character implementations.
The EL fights also had far more tension, it's not even comparable. There was no one saying "I don't think we could possibly lose" or miracle pills to put people back in fighting shape, or powerful people stepping in to win the Strawhats' fights for them. Usopp also outright lost to Jyabura and was going to be killed before Sanji stepped in, and Nami & Zoro actually acted like that was the case. On the other hand, Usopp, Nami & Tama were making jokey crying faces when Big Mom was about to attack them. Every time a key was obtained it was emphasized how much further away Robin was getting. No one doubted for a moment that Luffy falling into the sea was a big issue, and it was immediately resolved the following chapter with his newfound telepathic abilities, killing any iota of tension. Zoro being wrapped in bandages was solved by a miracle pill for an instant fix back into fighting shape. Nami actually had to use her wits to overcome Kalifa's abilities and win instead of Big Mom showing up to do most of the work for her, or a sentient cloud finishing it for her because she missed on her own. The Sanji getting trapped is also tedious with how lazily it is set up, with Luffy & Jimbe just ignoring him and wasting time when it was obvious Sanji wouldn't be fighting Black Maria. It also showed no progress when we already knew since Ennie Lobby that Sanji accepted his friends working to their strengths, even telling Usopp to go do what he was good at. It was just an unnecessary & repetitive tool to find a way to delay Sanji's fight without allowing him to go to the rooftop to mess up the Supernova theme.
The Raid being successful is not the issue. The characters basically treating it like a walk in the park and even secondary characters getting beat up only to return multiple times is the issue.
The fact you even have to specify "first time around" for Kanjuro says it all. Does anyone actually think that Ashura Doji is actually dead at this point? Pulling a fake out with Luffy is an issue when no one is going to buy it anyone, so why even try? The fact that the sheer numbers of fakeout deaths surpass the EL one by far, and they didn't even wait till the main action was mostly underway just brutalizes the tension more than any other arc.
As for "Camp-i-wanna-go-train" the solutions are easy and multiple: don't put him in that situation in the first place. Training can still be done outside of prison in many ways since ryuo is a common concept in Wano anyway. There are many writing routes that could avoid that entire fiasco that was also overly long.
Everyone is certainly free to have their own opinion. At the end of the day it comes down to what someone cares most about for their enjoyment. Wano has simply not been anywhere near as enjoyable as an arc like EL with the blatant issues in plot and character implementations.
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