General & Others Was Oden a Roger Pirate

[Albino 👑]

Is Oden considered a Roger pirate or just a temporary companion by Oda?

When drawing all the Roger Pirates Oden wasn’t included

When listing off the roles of the main members of the Roger Pirates Oden wasn’t included

Even in story despite Usopp and the crew knowing of Oden and his time with the Roger Pirates they along with the giants don’t really think of him as one

To add to that fleet admiral Sakazuki akainu who knows of Oden automatically thought of him as a Whitebeard pirate not a Roger one

We know it was originally planned that Oden would only temporarily go with Roger for a year before coming back to Whitebeard. Despite how important he was to the Roger Pirates finding the one piece I’d say his role as second division commander is more widely known

 

[Sir Yasheen]

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[GrandmasterChef Zonji]

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People especially Albino really forgot that Crocus only a Roger Pirates for 3 years, joining late like Oden and he still considered as Pirate King crew

 

[kekaro]

People especially Albino really forgot that Crocus only a Roger Pirates for 3 years, joining late like Oden and he still considered as Pirate King crew

We all know why people consider Crocus a Roger pirate but made the weirdest copes about Dogshitman not being considered one

I begins with G - continues with aban and ends with destroy their booties

Also cute sig

 

[Sir Yasheen]

People especially Albino really forgot that Crocus only a Roger Pirates for 3 years, joining late like Oden and he still considered as Pirate King crew

This entire question is just blatant agenda driven

 

[Albino 👑]

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You do realize that that doesn’t change the fact that Oden is never looked back on as a Roger pirate even by Oda

People especially Albino really forgot that Crocus only a Roger Pirates for 3 years, joining late like Oden and he still considered as Pirate King crew

That unironically helps prove my point lol
Oda draws Crocus but not Oden when showing them all of

Oda specifies Crocus’s role on the crew alongside other important members but not Oden’s

You might have a point if Crocus wasn’t highlighted but it’s the opposite

 

[Sir Yasheen]

You do realize that that doesn’t change the fact that Oden is never looked back on as a Roger pirate even by Oda

That unironically helps prove my point lol
Oda draws Crocus but not Oden when showing them all of

Oda specifies Crocus’s role on the crew alongside other important members but not Oden’s

You might have a point if Crocus wasn’t highlighted but it’s the opposite

Oden was literally introduced to the readers as a Roger Pirate before we knew anything else about him, that’s what oda told us

 

[GrandmasterChef Zonji]

We all know why people consider Crocus a Roger pirate but made the weirdest copes about Dogshitman not being considered one

I begins with G - continues with aban and ends with destroy their booties

Also cute sig

I'm glad that my take the Old Gen Pirate King Wings atleast >= Yonko is coming true and more true.
Next is the next PK wings atleast PK level, while Luffy can claim Demi God tier.
I still think Real God exist on One piece.

This entire question is just blatant agenda driven

True it happens to Zoro too,
He also likes to ragebait with this type of questions

 

[Albino 👑]

Oden was literally introduced to the readers as a Roger Pirate before we knew anything else about him, that’s what oda told us

Why don’t the strawhats, giants, or even the fleet admiral think of him as a Roger pirate despite knowing of him. Sakazuki even referred to him as a Whitebeard pirate

Why doesn’t Oda himself draw him when drawing all the members of the Roger Pirates? Crocus is there. He didn’t even include neko and Inu
Why doesn’t he specify Oden’s role when listing off the roles of all the important members of the crew? Crocus is also there

People can dislike Oden as much as they like but Oden was easily one of the most important characters to even step on the orojackson

 

[GrandmasterChef Zonji]

You do realize that that doesn’t change the fact that Oden is never looked back on as a Roger pirate even by Oda

That unironically helps prove my point lol
Oda draws Crocus but not Oden when showing them all of

Oda specifies Crocus’s role on the crew alongside other important members but not Oden’s

You might have a point if Crocus wasn’t highlighted but it’s the opposite

The keyword here is "Main Members" And "Important Members"
Sunbell is a main member of Oda's design sketches, but he didn't had important roles or important member later on.
Thats one of the design character draft for Roger pirates.
What is the excuse on that?

In this industry there is always design sketches before final draft and the final draft, its not a big deal if there is some changes.

If u still had an Argument on Oden isn't looked back as Roger pirates, look at Zoro lol.
He was Buggy pirates before the final draft, and now he is the First mate of Luffy.
Whats ur excuse on that?

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Why don’t the strawhats, giants, or even the fleet admiral think of him as a Roger pirate despite knowing of him. Sakazuki even referred to him as a Whitebeard pirate

Why doesn’t Oda himself draw him when drawing all the members of the Roger Pirates? Crocus is there. He didn’t even include neko and Inu
Why doesn’t he specify Oden’s role when listing off the roles of all the important members of the crew? Crocus is also there

People can dislike Oden as much as they like but Oden was easily one of the most important characters to even step on the orojackson

We literally have the only admiral from Roger’s generation tell us he was a Roger Pirate.

And because those were initial sketches of the Roger pirates. Odens a character that oda didn’t think of until much later in the story.

 

[Kumathegoat]

Rogee and Gaban considered him a part of the crew, it is just like Vivi to the Strawhats

 

[Albino 👑]

The keyword here is "Main Members" And "Important Members"
Sunbell is a main member of Oda's design sketches, but he didn't had important roles or important member later on.
Thats one of the design character draft for Roger pirates.
What is the excuse on that?

In this industry there is always design sketches before final draft and the final draft, its not a big deal if there is some changes.

If u still had an Argument on Oden isn't looked back as Roger pirates, look at Zoro lol.
He was Buggy pirates before the final draft, and now he is the First mate of Luffy.
Whats ur excuse on that?

What?

Oda drawing rough sketches for all the Roger Pirates is a different thing than Oda thinking of making Zoro a Buggy pirate before he started the story….
Idk I have to explain this but a rough sketch isn’t the same as concept art

Either way Oden wasn’t included in the sketches of all the Roger Pirates or when listing the roles of the important members of the crew

It’s also extremely stupid to compare oden to sunbell when it comes to importance lmso. Also the sbs is post oden

We literally have the only admiral from Roger’s generation tell us he was a Roger Pirate.

And because those were initial sketches of the Roger pirates. Odens a character that oda didn’t think of until much later in the story.

The sbs is in volume 96 chapter 970 Oden is in the volume lol

Sengoku had to tell Sakazuki about his time with Roger because he didn’t know
The strawhats and giants don’t even think of Oden as a Roger pirate

 

[Dragon777]

 

[Sir Yasheen]

What?

Oda drawing rough sketches for all the Roger Pirates is a different thing than Oda thinking of making Zoro a Buggy pirate before he started the story….
Idk I have to explain this but a rough sketch isn’t the same as concept art

Either way Oden wasn’t included in the sketches of all the Roger Pirates or when listing the roles of the important members of the crew

It’s also extremely stupid to compare oden to sunbell when it comes to importance lmso. Also the sbs is post oden




The sbs is in volume 96 chapter 970 Oden is in the volume lol

Sengoku had to tell Sakazuki about his time with Roger because he didn’t know
The strawhats and giants don’t even think of Oden as a Roger pirate

Because we’re told in the pre timeskip people don’t talk about Roger’s era. And yes they do. Luffy and Franky literally calls Oden Inu and Neko part of the Roger pirates in Zou

 

[Sir Yasheen]

@Albino 👑 even calls Oden a Roger Pirate and created another agenda post years ago about it. So even he knows Odens a Roger Pirate but now that it goes against his agenda he needs to pretend he never was.

Color spread shows all the right hand men (excluding the world government ones) but not necessarily the strongest characters "under" each captain


Oden > rayleigh and scopper
Ben > lucky and yasopp
Yamato > king and queen
Katakuri > smoothie and cracker
Killer > heat and wire
Alive Ace > marco and jozu

Arguably teach was Marco and jozu level pre df and yami teach > Marco and jozu​

Sabo > kuma and ivankov
Bepo > penguin and shachi

Low key hopefully law eventually recruits someone stronger than at least base bepo🗿​

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Even for if oden was able to become shogun it likely would have had the same pattern. Not a pirate crew but neither are the revs🗿
Adult momo > kinemon and denjiro

Need to know more about the blackbeard pirates but either
Shiryu > ??? and ??? or kuzan > shiryu and ???

As for the strawhats either
Zoro > sanji and jinbe or ??? > zoro and sanji

• Zoro will still be stronger than every other character above tho in order to become the next wss
• Tho i dont think anyone would be allowed to be stronger than sanji and especially zoro during the presnt time. Post pirate king luffy years later maybe

As to why imo ray, marco, and king were made the right hands if they weren't the strongest character under their captains

• Ray was with roger long before oden came into the picture (like around 20 years before). Its not like roger would ever just demote rayleigh even if he somehow found 20 people stronger
• As for marco oden left the wbp and died so he was basically next in line. Then with ace joining he was soon to get surpassing but i doubt even when ace got noticeably stronger that whitebeards the type to just take Marco's role/title away
• For king hes been around longer and yamato refuses to officially join. Tho kaido does seem like the type of dude to automatically make yamato hi his right hand if he could

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

 

[Albino 👑]

Because we’re told in the pre timeskip people don’t talk about Roger’s era. And yes they do. Luffy and Franky literally calls Oden Inu and Neko part of the Roger pirates in Zou

No one is talking about pre timeskip..
Dumbass please explain why Oda didn’t draw Oden Neko or Inu when he drew ALL the Roger Pirates. Again this sbs is post timeskip post Odens introduction

Explain why Oden isn’t considered an important member of the crew but Crocus and donkino are?

@Albino 👑 even calls Oden a Roger Pirate and created another agenda post years ago about it. So even he knows Odens a Roger Pirate but now that it goes against his agenda he needs to pretend he never was.

Years ago and my opinion doesn’t matter when the author themselves keeps going out of his way to not include Oden

You can keep bringing up old post but answer the questions I’m asking now

 

[Sir Yasheen]

No one is talking about pre timeskip..
Dumbass please explain why Oda didn’t draw Oden Neko or Inu when he drew ALL the Roger Pirates. Again this sbs is post timeskip post Odens introduction

Explain why Oden isn’t considered an important member of the crew but Crocus and donkino are?

Years ago and my opinion doesn’t matter when the author themselves keeps going out of his way to not include Oden

You can keep bringing up old post but answer the questions I’m asking now

I don’t need to. Oda made it clear that oden was a Roger Pirate in the story. He’s called one by multiple characters in the story. He tells people he’s a Roger pirate in the story. Oda even treats him like a Roger pirate whenever he’s brought up in the story.

Asking this question is pure agenda cause it’s confirmed that besides Roger, there is no stronger Roger pirate than the wings.

 

[StocksInMihawk]

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The story and Oden himself calls him a Roger Pirate

He sailed with them for 1 year, the Straw Hats haven't even been sailing together for that long