Questions & Mysteries Wasted DFs you wanna see them have a comeback?
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Him being the villain of an arc is offset by him being fodder and literally a Buggy equivalent type character. If he was a top tier and the villain of an arc then his fruit would show far more.
Again, it's potential is basically limitless. Other logia are a singular element or force, Caesar controls an entire state of matter. Try to imagine how busted a logia would be that controls all solids or liquids, that's Caesar.
Again, it's potential is basically limitless. Other logia are a singular element or force, Caesar controls an entire state of matter. Try to imagine how busted a logia would be that controls all solids or liquids, that's Caesar.
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In the grand scheme of things Enel is largely a fodder, but during his arc he was basically the strongest character in the verse revealed up to that point. There wasn't a concept of Yonko or Admirals yet.
That only really applies when the main villain gets competitive, repeated sustained fights with Luffy, like Kaido, Katakuri, Doflamingo or Crocodile got. Caesar was dominated the entire time and folded in like two chapters. Nowhere near enough time for Oda to really delve into his powers.
That only really applies when the main villain gets competitive, repeated sustained fights with Luffy, like Kaido, Katakuri, Doflamingo or Crocodile got. Caesar was dominated the entire time and folded in like two chapters. Nowhere near enough time for Oda to really delve into his powers.
I'll repeat it again. CC got more exposure for his fruit than Kizaru who has been around since pretimeskip and even headlined an arc. It's not getting much better than being a main villain who is defeated.
And completely false. Caesar got multiple rounds. He fodderized Luffy, Smoker etc. at first.
Just goes to show you how far Oda is willing to go for main villains that are even fodder. We should be grateful Gas Gas got an arc centered around it. Period. It could have gone to an Admiral and we would never get to see half the stuff we saw because Oda just has them hold back and be passive all the time.
We even got to see CC power up his fruit artificially just like Enel.
And completely false. Caesar got multiple rounds. He fodderized Luffy, Smoker etc. at first.
Just goes to show you how far Oda is willing to go for main villains that are even fodder. We should be grateful Gas Gas got an arc centered around it. Period. It could have gone to an Admiral and we would never get to see half the stuff we saw because Oda just has them hold back and be passive all the time.
We even got to see CC power up his fruit artificially just like Enel.
And far less exposure than Kaido, Katakuri, Doflamingo, Lucci etc got, the list goes on and on. What does Kizaru specifically have to do with this lmao? You keep bringing him up, not me, no idea why you're so hyperfixated on him in this discussion, like sure, Kizaru's power was under utilized, maybe has a role to play in the future, who knows.
So a couple rounds of no diffing people in a few pages and then a two chapter fight that constantly switches between Vergo vs Law and other Straw Hats. That's a mere fraction of what actual main villains like those I mentioned above got. Nowhere near enough time to flesh out his powers.
Caesar the character got an arc largely centered around him, though Vergo arguably took that when he appeared. His power did not get the spotlight at all, and because of the way Oda wrote his character, as a weak coward, his power was never actually demonstrated as effectively as it could or should have been.
So a couple rounds of no diffing people in a few pages and then a two chapter fight that constantly switches between Vergo vs Law and other Straw Hats. That's a mere fraction of what actual main villains like those I mentioned above got. Nowhere near enough time to flesh out his powers.
Caesar the character got an arc largely centered around him, though Vergo arguably took that when he appeared. His power did not get the spotlight at all, and because of the way Oda wrote his character, as a weak coward, his power was never actually demonstrated as effectively as it could or should have been.
Who cares, you're now listing other main villains. And what you're saying is nonsense anyway, his fruit didn't get less exposure than some of those characters.
Point is the gas gas in One Piece terms was given the red carpet treatment. An entire arc around it. The only scenario better than that would be an arc centered around it and he's a top tier.
Him simply being a stronger character or even a top tier would be worse for the fruit than what we got.
Point is the gas gas in One Piece terms was given the red carpet treatment. An entire arc around it. The only scenario better than that would be an arc centered around it and he's a top tier.
Him simply being a stronger character or even a top tier would be worse for the fruit than what we got.
I'm listing other main villains because, unlike Caesar, they actually got their abilities fleshed out and had prolonged fights. You're continuously bringing up Kizaru being underutilized to somehow argue that Caesar wasn't underutilized(?).
It did.
Which is exactly what I said like three or four posts ago.
"Him being the villain of an arc is offset by him being fodder and literally a Buggy equivalent type character. If he was a top tier and the villain of an arc then his fruit would show far more."
You're literally agreeing with me here.
And him being both a stronger character or top tier and having an arc centered around him would be significantly better for him than what we got.
It did.
Which is exactly what I said like three or four posts ago.
"Him being the villain of an arc is offset by him being fodder and literally a Buggy equivalent type character. If he was a top tier and the villain of an arc then his fruit would show far more."
You're literally agreeing with me here.
And him being both a stronger character or top tier and having an arc centered around him would be significantly better for him than what we got.
It didn't bro. Having an arc focused on you is the best thing you can possibly get in One Piece. It don't get better than that.
Comparing it to Buggy's 5 chapter arc to Punk Hazard is funny though, nice try there. You were clearly asleep during PH cause you didn't even realize CC had multiple rounds with Luffy.
Your opinion means squat diddly when you can't even recall basic facts.
Comparing it to Buggy's 5 chapter arc to Punk Hazard is funny though, nice try there. You were clearly asleep during PH cause you didn't even realize CC had multiple rounds with Luffy.
Your opinion means squat diddly when you can't even recall basic facts.
This is right up my valley.
- Baby five's Full-Body Weapon Human DF. She used it in the shitiest way possible. That DF has a lot of potential in good hands.
- Mister one/Daz Bones Supa Supa no Mi. Despite his good showings against Zoro, his lack of haki wastes the DF. But with a good haki an iron body could be a seriously strong DF.
- Buggy's Bara Bara no Mi is an insanely strong DF. We all love Buggy, but his DF has a mad potential in good hands, but Buggy doesn't have the skills for it.
- Caribu's swamp logia is wasted on him, it has a very good potential in good hands.
- Monet's snow logia is also wasted, it's really good, despite being a weaker version of ice logia.
- Bellamy's spring DF. I know that it looks shity, but it gives the user an ability to increase his punching strength and also jump really high. Plus speed boost.
- Caeser's gas logia is arguably one of the strongest DFs in one piece, completely wasted on him.
- Oven's heat DF has a good potential, but his fighting style doesn't fit that DF.
- Charlotte's mirror DF has a really good potential. It's not an easy DF to use in combat, but with a mirror weapon and creativity could be quiet the DF.
- Smoothie's DF is also very good, unfortunately Oda wasted her entire character with the DF.
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