The whole hero plot was not wrote yet also that's never stopped him from attacking kakashi with genjutsu so what gives???
Maybe just maybe, jiraya was just portrayed above itachi there and the fandom could perhaps be wrong.
The whole hero plot was not wrote yet also that's never stopped him from attacking kakashi with genjutsu so what gives???
Maybe just maybe, jiraya was just portrayed above itachi there and the fandom could perhaps be wrong.
Jiraya is above bee so what??
Kisame nearly died fighting killer bee and only lasted as long as he did as bee let kisame drain his chakra, Jiraya would of never fell for that unless you think jiraya's combat awareness from the pain fight just no longer exists
Jiraya is above bee so what??
Kisame nearly died fighting killer bee and only lasted as long as he did as bee let kisame drain his chakra, Jiraya would of never fell for that unless you think jiraya's combat awareness from the pain fight just no longer exists
Jiraya is above bee so what??
Kisame nearly died fighting killer bee and only lasted as long as he did as bee let kisame drain his chakra, Jiraya would of never fell for that unless you think jiraya's combat awareness from the pain fight just no longer exists
Hebi Sasuke >>> Killer Bee Sasuke, case his chackra was much bigger and he had Orochimaru tech, which was much stronger then Amaterasu.
Sasuke from Danzo fight is stronger but he lose sight...so probably Sasuke Danzo is really close to Hebi Sasuke.
Wouldt say the entire world but surely most people in the manga community
though some agree with me, most dont as humans are tribal creatures preferring following their group regardless of reason over trying to have a reasonable discussion about matters.
it's just the nature of man
off topic, the patriots were right
''All rhetoric to avoid conflict and protect one another from hurt. The untested false truths spun by different interests continue to churn and accumulate in the sandbox of political correctness and value systems. Everyone withdraws into their small gated community afraid of a larger forum. They stay inside their little ponds leaking whatever ''truth'' suits them into the growing cesspool of society at large. The different cardinal truths nether clash nor mesh. No one is invalidated but nobody is right'' - Patriot Ai (Metal Gear)
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Sasuke as of war arc, I dont think danzo fight sasuke could of contested pein as had jiraya
it's not like that's an anti feat
Is orochimaru fodder now??
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Wouldt say the entire world but surely most people in the manga community
though some agree with me, most dont as humans are tribal creatures preferring following their group regardless of reason over trying to have a reasonable discussion about matters.
it's just the nature of man
off topic, the patriots were right
''All rhetoric to avoid conflict and protect one another from hurt. The untested false truths spun by different interests continue to churn and accumulate in the sandbox of political correctness and value systems. Everyone withdraws into their small gated community afraid of a larger forum. They stay inside their little ponds leaking whatever ''truth'' suits them into the growing cesspool of society at large. The different cardinal truths nether clash nor mesh. No one is invalidated but nobody is right'' - Patriot Ai (Metal Gear)
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Sasuke as of war arc, I dont think danzo fight sasuke could of contested pein as had jiraya
And, he's weakened in nearly every fight as he has no arms due to hiruzen
I mean jiraya is also injured throughout the entire series too if your being technical
Given jiraya couldt and that man not only was admitted as kisame's superior in strength but kisame's clones were defeated by neji
Ad did neji damage normal kisame
do you think jiraya would have his attacks easily blocked by gama?
Both by statements and feats, Jiraya would win
And, he's weakened in nearly every fight as he has no arms due to hiruzen
I mean jiraya is also injured throughout the entire series too if your being technical
Clones are clones Kisame wasn't really serious he didn't use chakra absorbing or samehada against Neji and Co
Jirayas injury was healed it wasn't lasting
Oros was lasting due Hiruzun but more that the ritual was coming and the vessel he used was done for it had more to do that the vessel he had was weakened
Also Bees 8 version 2.0
Is far more powerful than Neji or Narutos 4 tails version
You know I can understand you it's Kishis inconsistent
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