[FNZ] Super Role Madness Weebs: New Beginnings

[Ultra]

Well if you think hand picking a role pre game equates to rigging actions then Idk what to tell you lol. You’re free to equate those two things under the same umbrella

I don't know what the confusion here is.

Basically, saying "this game is fixed for one particular person who has this certain privilege for ????? reasons" is probably not the best defense, because WHY ARE YOU FIXING IT FOR BLUE TO ALWAYS RAND INDI

It 100% throws the "integrity" (and I use the term very loosely here, because I just expect this stuff as a package deal with WG games) completely and rightfully into question. I believe you/Fuji, I just think you lose all license to be *mad* about that speculation when you just admitted to fixing straight up

 

[MangoSenpai]

Right, I see it now.

Well, I can only speak from my PoV, but engineering actions seems to be a meritless accusation, as there is nothing I've seen to back that up.

As for engineering the game, that is a bit of an ambiguous claim. Obviously as a host you are engineering the game, no matter how you look at it. The issue is to what degree and in what ways.
Putting certain players in a certain alignment is rather innocent in the grand scheme of things, but if you (hypotethical) altered actions or otherwise intentionally and willfully fix actions to favor someone, that's much worse.
For that I have no reason, nor inclination to believe to be the case.

For the points he pointed out though, I don't think he's completely off base on some of the things, I don't agree with all he's saying, but I can sort of see what angle he's coming from.

EDITED

 

[Saber]

dead chat pls

 

[Dr_Professor83]

I don't know what the confusion here is.

Basically, saying "this game is fixed for one particular person who has this certain privilege for ????? reasons" is probably not the best defense, because WHY ARE YOU FIXING IT FOR BLUE TO ALWAYS RAND INDI

It 100% throws the "integrity" (and I use the term very loosely here, because I just expect this stuff as a package deal with WG games) completely and rightfully into question. I believe you/Fuji, I just think you lose all license to be *mad* about that speculation when you just admitted to fixing straight up

I’m not mad lol. But I can see where it would make someone mad in Fuji’s case. I don’t think the two are remotely conflatable.

 

[MangoSenpai]

Except none of you guys from the scum team are actuall defending me here when he says Im biased towards and engineering shit,like how many times did I tell you guys no? How frustrating was it for you guys?

I mean you yourself said I was biased towards town given how bad its gotten and how frustrated you were.

boi, I literally pointed that out

I know I wasn't that active, but don't brush me off lmao

 

[Peroroncino]

what was used on me night 3?

 

[MangoSenpai]

Confession: When Fuji was asleep I would find all the town action submissions, send them to scum, then have me and scum edit all our post to get it past Fuji. It’s why my side won!

 

[York]

If I had a nickel for every time I got stonewalled by Fuji for trying to do something awesome I would have, like.... several nickels. And I'm one of his favorite players, so there

 

[Fujishiro]

I don't know what the confusion here is.

Basically, saying "this game is fixed for one particular person who has this certain privilege for ????? reasons" is probably not the best defense, because WHY ARE YOU FIXING IT FOR BLUE TO ALWAYS RAND INDI

It 100% throws the "integrity" (and I use the term very loosely here, because I just expect this stuff as a package deal with WG games) completely and rightfully into question. I believe you/Fuji, I just think you lose all license to be *mad* about that speculation when you just admitted to fixing straight up

I had players tell me I should handpick roles for strong town roles so that town doesnt get wrecked and now youre equating giving blue an indie role to saying I dont have the right to be upset when he accuses me of cheating and enginerring actions are you fucking kidding me right now dude.

 

[Fujishiro]

what was used on me night 3?

I dont remember lol what happened to you nigh 3?

 

[Dr_Professor83]

Whether roles should ever be handpicked is up in the air and something for individuals to determine. Some think you should and some think you shouldnt. I personally prefer RNG and even advocated for just rolling Blue as whatever he randed.

But if a host does hand pick a role, I don’t think they’ve lost all credibility as a person and think that’s silly lol

 

[Adam 🍎]

I had players tell me I should handpick roles for strong town roles so that town doesnt get wrecked and now youre equating giving blue an indie role to saying I dont have the right to be upset when he accuses me of cheating and enginerring actions are you fucking kidding me right now dude.

The problem is that blue always, and i mean always gets an indie role, same as flower somehow getting a role that can self clear her

Wheres giving strong roles to strong players just overall makes sense on balance scale

 

[Fujishiro]

somehow getting a role that can self clear her

Flower was fucking RNGED.

 

[Ultra]

I had players tell me I should handpick roles for strong town roles so that town doesnt get wrecked and now youre equating giving blue an indie role to saying I dont have the right to be upset when he accuses me of cheating and enginerring actions are you fucking kidding me right now dude.

You shouldn't do any handpicking as a matter of principle, almost anything outside of this is bias and favorable treatment.

So yes, you can't just season a little bit of it in and then be upset when you're given shit about it. Fairness is really a binary thing. The easy countermeasure is to, of course, stop sucking Blue's tit and treat him like a regular person.

At no junction have you explained why it's remotely neccessary for you to do this besides "he wouldn't like it if he actually had to play an honest game"

Once again, meme game, meme rules - but at some level you think it is permissible to rig an outcome, so it isn't the biggest slap in the face to speculate you rig other outcomes. It's just duly consequential, if you want the right to be offended, you need to not do it on any level.

 

[Adam 🍎]

Flower was fucking RNGED.

Again, i'm not saying if it was handpicked or not, i'm just saying what always happens. So when it does happen like in the instance this game it raises eyebrows to some people

 

[Peroroncino]

I dont remember lol what happened to you nigh 3?

that was when i shortened the night

 

[Dr_Professor83]

The problem is that blue always, and i mean always gets an indie role, same as flower somehow getting a role that can self clear her

Wheres giving strong roles to strong players just overall makes sense on balance scale

Accusation of favoritism is something else than cheating accusations. I think it’s very poor to let the two blend together into one argument and people aren’t taking a stand on separating the two here

 

[Ultra]

Whether roles should ever be handpicked is up in the air and something for individuals to determine. Some think you should and some think you shouldnt. I personally prefer RNG and even advocated for just rolling Blue as whatever he randed.

But if a host does hand pick a role, I don’t think they’ve lost all credibility as a person and think that’s silly lol

 

[Adam 🍎]

Accusation of favoritism is something else than cheating accusations. I think it’s very poor to let the two blend together into one argument and people aren’t taking a stand on separating the two here

I don't know what Ekko said bcs i have kekko on ignore most of the time.

But I can totally understand frustration with giving blue his indie again and flower getting another self clear again (again, not saying it is handpicked or not, but just what happened)

 

[Naomi]

Whether roles should ever be handpicked is up in the air and something for individuals to determine. Some think you should and some think you shouldnt. I personally prefer RNG and even advocated for just rolling Blue as whatever he randed.

But if a host does hand pick a role, I don’t think they’ve lost all credibility as a person and think that’s silly lol

There should be upgraded weebs game, where you send your character you want to play in pm!

not rng.

and in sign up thread the submission is listed ????

i think this would be better then rng.