Powers & Abilities What are Zoro's asura and Sanji's jambe? Can others do it?

[Rootbeer]

Because they color coded their shirts with their hair color. Oda already stated in SBS that if Sanji was altered his hair would be black

l don't buy it, they would of known off the bat that Sanji wasn't modified... Or Sanji's hair would be Orange..
Germa pushed the StealthBlack narrative to mask their failure just like how Judge faked Sanji's death and imprisoned him..

 

[Sir Yasheen]

l don't buy it, they would of known off the bat that Sanji wasn't modified... Or Sanji's hair would be Orange..
Germa pushed the StealthBlack narrative to mask their failure just like how Judge faked Sanji's death and imprisoned him..

You don’t but what was canonically stated? They just thought Sanji was a late bloomer until they realized he wasn’t?

 

[Rootbeer]

You don’t but what was canonically stated? They just thought Sanji was a late bloomer until they realized he wasn’t?

Oda loves to misslead his readers to keep the mysteries around.. lf they thought that they would still have given him a black shirt..

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Oda loves to misslead his readers to keep the mysteries around.. lf they thought that they would still have given him a black shirt..

Or they just saw he had yellow hair and gave him a matching shirt like every other one of his brothers?

And misleading yes. But it’s canonical that Sanjis power was going to be invisibility and his color was going to be black. You’re just ignoring canon

 

[GrizzlySenpai]

I'm with Oda's canon explanation for Sanji's fire - mostly because it matches Sanji's theme. His dad embodied cold science and Sanji separated himself by being a man of passion and emotion. If the fire were an intentional genetic mutation, it would shit on that whole part of Sanji's character.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

I'm with Oda's canon explanation for Sanji's fire - mostly because it matches Sanji's theme. His dad embodied cold science and Sanji separated himself by being a man of passion and emotion. If the fire were an intentional genetic mutation, it would shit on that whole part of Sanji's character.

With it being very specific “A heart of Ice” Diable Jambe doesn’t make any sense at all

 

[Sweetdreams]

Jambe is just friction

No idea what the fuck asura is or how it works tho

 

[Rootbeer]

Or they just saw he had yellow hair and gave him a matching shirt like every other one of his brothers?

And misleading yes. But it’s canonical that Sanjis power was going to be invisibility and his color was going to be black. You’re just ignoring canon

So they should of known he had no powers from the start..
ls it, invisibility is a base feature of every suits like the cape shield exodurability flying etc.. lt’s a technology, they are projecting the background on them as chameleons..

lt just makes more sense to me if Sanji’s flames are from the genetic modification and strong emotions can access those powers or greater flames than he would have if he was the same as his siblings..

 

[Zaretball]

Dj is passion magic
Asura is spirit magic

 

[Finalbeta]

-asura is ryou + seimei kikan: zoro is making his haki/demon aura take the shape of multiple arms and hrads and control them like they're parts of his body.
we have examples of people making their haki change form and nature, kinemon's fire, kaido/yamato's lightning, vista's flower petals...
seimei kikan is the ability to control all parts of the body, even parts that cannot be consciously controlled, and i think the same applies to thing created from devil fruits like doflamingo's doppelganger and katakuri's morphing ability and their awakening, or in this case zoro's additional body parts.

-diable jambe is a chemical reaction triggered by intense emotions, there's something is sanji's germa blood that reacts to his emotional state, and raises his body temperature, eventually making him combust into flames.

asura can be copied as it operates on basic concepts, just like how zoro easily copied kinemon's foxfire style.
diable jambe can't be replicated, because it's a bloodline specific ability, even though there're a lot of characters who can produce fire, it is still not the same thing as sanji.

I always felt like Asura was likely a manifestation of CoC haki, even since the rooftop battle processed.

It felt too coincidental that Kaido would mention just when Zoro went Asura, of course that doesn't mean he can't come up with other forms of CoC and he did...

 

[RoronoaZorro]

Sora’s drug acted as a seal when Sanji’s emotions overflow it bypass the seal and let out Diable

Source? Chapter and Page?

lt was cooler as a first time to have Sanji spin for the grand reveal..

1. Waste of one panel to make Sanji spins again and again everytime.

2. It acts as higher proficiency of Diable Jambe, post Timeskip. Just like how Luffy can cast Gear 2 on specific body parts post Timeskip, Sanji doesn't need to spin.

lf the suit can create invisibility then every suits can..

No? Don't you realize that every germa siblings' suit has different quirk? Sanji's suit has invis, his brother for example, has the lightning.

Sanji’s shirt as boy was Yellow not Black his powers were suppose to be fire..

No? His shirt is yellow because his hair color is yellow? Just like the other siblings?

Sometimes I wonder if you're just joking with me or genuinely have different understanding than everyone else.

 

[Rootbeer]

Source? Chapter and Page?

The thread is about what's Sanji Diable Jambe.. There is no definite answer..

1. Waste of one panel to make Sanji spins again and again everytime.

2. It acts as higher proficiency of Diable Jambe, post Timeskip. Just like how Luffy can cast Gear 2 on specific body parts post Timeskip, Sanji doesn't need to spin.

Yeah he doesn't spin no more because it was an esthetic choice from Oda..

No? Don't you realize that every germa siblings' suit has different quirk? Sanji's suit has invis, his brother for example, has the lightning.

Their powers don't come from the suits, it comes from the user.. The Raid suit is used to amplify their abilities, Niji can use lightning without his suit..

No? His shirt is yellow because his hair color is yellow? Just like the other siblings?

Yeah and their hair matches their powers so they thought Sanji would be fire since Judge and the Scientists didn't know Sanji was a failure at first..

 

[RoronoaZorro]

Yeah and their hair matches their powers so they thought Sanji would be fire since Judge and the Scientists didn't know Sanji was a failure at first..

They thought Sanji would be fire is wrong.

The comic about hero Sora is linked to Germa 66. The comic no 3 character is named Stealth Black and can go invis, not fire. The comic appeared before Sanji was born, so Sanji's supposed gene modification is Invisibility.

https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Sora,_Warrior_of_the_Sea

Their powers don't come from the suits, it comes from the user..

And there you go (see quote below). Their power comes from the user, their germa DNA, which Sanji just unlocked in this arc (that's why his eyebrows changed). That's why the fire can't be his "original" or "supposed" power because Sanji can do it since Enies Lobby.

If Fire is his supposed germa power, his exoskeleton gene should have appear in Enies Lobby (regen, iron skin).

lf it was the case Sanji would have invisibility without the suit instead of Fire..

Now we know that Fire does not come from Germa 66 gene modif.

 

[Rootbeer]

They thought Sanji would be fire is wrong.

The comic about hero Sora is linked to Germa 66. The comic no 3 character is named Stealth Black and can go invis, not fire. The comic appeared before Sanji was born, so Sanji's supposed gene modification is Invisibility.

lt's not specified from what time the comic was published, it can be a cover up to preserve Germa's reputation..

And there you go (see quote below). Their power comes from the user, their germa DNA, which Sanji just unlocked in this arc (that's why his eyebrows changed). That's why the fire can't be his "original" or "supposed" power because Sanji can do it since Enies Lobby.

If Fire is his supposed germa power, his exoskeleton gene should have appear in Enies Lobby (regen, iron skin).

Not necessarly, Sanji could be like Naruto who could somehow use some of kyuubi's chakra due to his immense energy through the seal..

 

[Finalbeta]

Feel like everyone's haki is arguably pretty unique in the verse, and if that's so no one should exactly be able to replicate Zoro's Asura 🤔

 

[Sir Yasheen]

lt's not specified from what time the comic was published, it can be a cover up to preserve Germa's reputation..



Not necessarly, Sanji could be like Naruto who could somehow use some of kyuubi's chakra due to his immense energy through the seal..

Law and Vito read the comic as kids. And they’re both much older than Sanji you’re just factually wrong

 

[RoronoaZorro]

lt's not specified from what time the comic was published, it can be a cover up to preserve Germa's reputation..

Vito is 36 years old.
Sanji is 21 years old.
Vito read the comic when he was a child.
Being a child means younger than 15 years old, thus he read the comic when Sanji hasnt been born.

Bonus: If Fire is Germa's gene modif, why Queen has invisibility instead of flaming legs? He worked with Judge way before.

 

[Rootbeer]

Law and Vito read the comic as kids. And they’re both much older than Sanji you’re just factually wrong

No where it says in the raws that Vito read that when he was a kid..

Vito is 36 years old.
Sanji is 21 years old.
Vito read the comic when he was a child.
Being a child means younger than 15 years old, thus he read the comic when Sanji hasnt been born.

Bonus: If Fire is Germa's gene modif, why Queen has invisibility instead of flaming legs? He worked with Judge way before.

No where it says in the raws that Vito read that when he was a kid..

And they parted ways long before Judge completed his research technology, Queen only knows what he knows and that's hearsay..

 

[Thabeast]

I think Asura is some sort of Conqueror's Haki technique. Which is why Kaido asked Zoro is he had Conqueror's when he used it. Although I don't know why nobody can use something similar to Asura as Haki isn't unique to Zoro so it's maybe something else idk.

DJ is a vinsmoke ability or an after effect from Sora's drug that amplified Sanji's emotions imo.

It sucks that Oda never bothers properly explaining these abilities and he probably never will.

 

[RoronoaZorro]

No where it says in the raws that Vito read that when he was a kid..



No where it says in the raws that Vito read that when he was a kid..

And they parted ways long before Judge completed his research technology, Queen only knows what he knows and that's hearsay..

1. It's a comic.

2. Do you think research can be done in a short time? If they're always researching about flaming legs for years, then disband it and started researching about invisibility, can they do that shortly? Especially something as exquisite as invisibility.

Since you always refuse the manga info we talked, how about this.

Why would the RS is fire resistant if one of them supposed to emit fire?