Break Week What can you predict /what theories can you makefor Sanji by just using his parallels with Sabo and him being a foil to Luffy ( with some similarities

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So, I was thinking that Luffy and Sanji are like two sidesfrom the same coin, ‘cause there are some aspects of them that are the same or at least really similar, but some others are just complete opposites
(This is going to be pretty long, sorry, so I’m dividing it in blocks, which may be a lil messy, sorry)
Appearence:
Both, are thin, but, while Sanji is tall, Luffy is short. Sanji has blond and well brushed hair that covers part of his face, but Luffy’s got black messy hair. Both have a “mark” on their face, Luffy’s got his scar, Sanji’s got his eyebrows.
Sanji always wears formal clothes that are black, whileLuffy wears informal clothes, which are bright colored.
Fighting Style:
Both fight without anything else but thier body, but while Luffy’s a Devil Fruit user, Sanji’s not. On the other hand, Sanji’s the best swimmer in the crew. Also, Luffy uses mostly his fists to attack, while Sanji uses only his legs (well he uses knifes in his fight versus Wanze, but just one fight, so let’s ignore it).
Personality:
Most of the time, Sanji’s composed and mature, but there’s a lot of moments when he’s really childish. Luffy, is most of the time childish, but he can be serious if the moment requires to. While Sanji has shown he has sexual desires, Luffy has shown he has less sexual desires than a snail.
Both are hopeless dreamers, with kinda impossible dreams. Sanji want to find a legendary sea that may not exist, and Luffy wants to find a legendary tresaure that’s wanted by a lot of people. Luffy will do whatever he has to do to achieve it, but Sanji has been shown to deny his desire to accomplish his dream, just for the sake of someone else.
Luffy’s an excited child that go running towards anything that sounds fun to him without any second thought. Sanji’s careful and thinks his next moves with precison, also Sanji is one of the main strategist of the crew
Luffy easily falls for lies,tricks and ilusions, while Sanji doesn’t and even sometimes uses them in his advantage.
Both are so damn protective, but Sanji’s a lot more sacrificed.
Luffy’s loud and bad at infiltrating, but Sanji’s quiet and awfully good at infiltraitng and finding ways to help the crew.
Story/Family:
Both are saved by a pirate that looses, an arm on Luffy’s part, a leg on Sanji’s part,
Their fathers are both famous criminals, but while Sanji’s father’s more from the underworld, Luffy’s father from the upperworld.
Also both have two older siblings, but while Luffy’s aren’t blood related, Sanji’s are.
Well, that’s just a list of things that have come to my mind for now. Feel free to expand it.
Sanji can’t hit a woman at all, while Luffy could care less about your gender if you’re the enemy. Zoro’s in the middle of the spectrum. I got this from TV Tropes.
I’d also like to point out how Oda’s chosen colors for them are red and blue. While you have Zoro and Nami whose colors are their hair color, Sanji could honestly have yellow or even black as a color, but those were assigned to Usopp and Brook instead.
In most literature, red and blue are symbolic opposites. Usually they designate for convenience enemies or rivals at least. While Sanji’s rival is Zoro, sanji unwilling had sort of a heelface turn where in chapter 844 they actually had what they talked about sort of sanji vs. luffy more like sanji hitting luffy in order to strive him down both sanji and luffy had 2 flashbacks first one featuring their mentor and their mentors losing a limb for them and the second featuring a relationship with their brothers for luffy it was in spirit for sanji it was biological for luffy it was positive relationship for sanji negative
in the tea party since sanji is trying to save his biological brothers and father who he hates while e how luffy tried to save his brother in spirit ace
this serves as an excellent point of contrast while sanji is saved his brothers and father who he hates (along with his sister who he loves) luffy tried to save his brother in spirit and failed where sanjis mentor lost a leg to protect him while luffys mentor shanks lost a arm saving him heck in the manga this was outright referenced when luffy told him
image and they are both connected to the sun with luffy being the son god fruit user
and sanji associated with sun in a meta way
Judge was to be named Saint-Germain, eventually this became the name of Germa Kingdom’s flagship. I think the name Saint-Germain comes from the city Saint-Germain-en-Laye (the same as Paris Saint-Germain FC). Interestingly, this city was the birthplace of Sun King Louis XIV
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Sun king Louis supposedly had a twin brother who was the man in the iron mask ( which is referenced in sanjis backstory )
in the story man in the iron mask
also germa kingdom is a reference to shocker from kamen rider and kamen rider black was solar powered who lit his legs and fists on fire and had a prince of sadness and prince of anger mode
while lufffys g5 has white hair and red eyes and is the moment when he is at his most free
sanji with black hair is when he is at his least free ( if sora never took the drug) and Sanji has natual blue eyes so he would have black hair and blue eyes contrasting g5 luffy's white and red

( he was called stealth black when epitaphs of his siblings corresponds to their respective hair color.
sanji and luffy are both associated with the number 3 ( also sanji takes cues from kamen rider black who is solar powered and uses that to burst his strikes into flames ( German 66 has a lot of references to shocker










for sabo parallels
its been noted that sanj has similarities to sabo as well as their situation and they both first appeared as solely martial artists and later developed a fire ability ( diable jambe , sabo has a fire fruit ) sabo uses a style named the dragon claw fist (ryusoken ) which focuses on the hands and sanjis style focuses on the feet to avoid injuring the hands and they both learnt their respective martial art styles from the man who invented it who also saved their lives ( zeff and dragon respectively) onepiece . wikia . com/wiki/Ryusoken


This a merely a short analysis, if you will, that came upon me suddenly through the introduction of the Vinsmoke Family and their interactions with Sanji. Throughout their introduction, I was getting mad "Sabo's Childhood" vibes and the pieces clicked into place upon the release of Manga Chapter 833 (and 834, to an extent). Now, to be clear, before I go pointing out similarities and the like, I am not in any way implying that the two are in identical situations. Their circumstances are different, family structure and strength are different, and even the characters ages at the time are different! I just noticed a similarity in their circumstances. ~--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------~ Now...let's get to the main topic of this analysis!Introducing two of our favorite blonde, runaway nobles: Sabo and Sanji!!
Besides the obvious fact that both Sabo and Sanji are runaways and greatly dislike (and even renounce) their families
-Their families are rather similar in their mindset and ultimate goals (which, admittedly, are a common trait in snobbish nobles within the One Piece world). The similarity in the two’s situation will be explained in each section below. Family Goals & Motivations· Both families have a similar goal:
To gain power and glorify the family name. The Vinsmoke Family wish to take over North Blue, hence the alliance with Big Mom, and Sabo’s family yearn to advance their social standing, which in turn, grants them further influence and power. If their offspring bring “shame” to the family, then they are obviously useless to the family.









In Sabo’s case, while his blood kin thought him a disgrace, his father’s solution was to trap him in the family home and try and force his ideas on him. While similar to Sanji’s father (from what we’ve seen so far), the difference is that Sabo’s father saw worth in getting Sabo back BECAUSE he was related by blood. Now Outlook III (Sabo’s father) HAD of course adopted another child as a backup, but in Vinsmoke Judge’s case, Sanji WAS the backup (despite sharing bonds by blood).






Might I also mention that both had jerks as siblings (and, by siblings, I mean siblings that are a part of their ‘blood’ family)? Family Ideas or the “Noble Privilege” · Peasants are nothing but trash. They’re meant to be used or discarded, nothing else. Part of the reason both Sanji and Sabo were seen as a disgrace was through their association with ‘commoners' or their participation in 'commoner activities,' such as cooking. Both families saw them as inferior and therefore, the tendencies of both Sabo and Sanji disgust them.






On the flip side, that blatant disregard for other people is a big part of why both sons hate their families so much. They see such attitudes as inhumane and as adults, both work against it in their own way. Sanji doesn’t let anyone go hungry and Sabo works as a revolutionary. Family Method to Power · Both families also employ an identical method in order to cement their power: Marrying off their son.










One main difference between the two, of course, were the ages of Sabo and Sanji respectively when the plan was formed. To Sabo’s parents, his fate since birth was to marry royalty to cement a higher standing for their noble family. And for Vinsmoke Judge, who was already royalty, he (seemingly) brought Sanji back for that purpose as well (marrying into a Yonko’s family = instant power). Essentially, both families brought back their blood heirs simply for the sake of marrying them off in an attempt to permanently elevate their standing. Both were completely fine with the idea of sacrificing their “useless” or “disgraceful” son for power. I thought it a curious similarity. Of course, the method makes sense as bluebloods marrying bluebloods was the norm for nobles in the past. Either way, neither of these two characters want that fate and I can’t much blame ‘em. Arranged marriages, bleck. · Both families have their heirs’ return through threatening the safety of their loved ones. This point is self-explanatory really, but the ONLY reason Sabo and Sanji returned semi-willingly to their blood kin was to protect their nakama.








That’s some low tactics there. Low, but effective. Final Tid-bit · Tenryuubito influence much? Just an observation, but am I the only one who finds the fact that both Sanji’s and Sabo’s dreams were threatened by Tenryuubito influence interesting? Both directly and indirectly, the Celestial Dragon’s managed to prevent the two’s freedom. In Sabo’s case, he set sail early to fulfil his dream and gain freedom from his parents, but a Celestial Dragon (literally) blasted that plan to bits. And in Sanji’s case, the explosive wristlets that his father had put on him keep him from attempting to escape because the detonation would destroy his hands. And if a chef has no hands…well, cooking is no longer an option. If Sanji can’t cook, then finding All Blue would be pointless and he’d no longer be able to feed the hungry or his crew. Effectively destroying his dream and “job” on the Straw Hats crew.

sanji
Mostly seen wearing formal clothing, i.e. dress shirts, suits, ties etc.
- Official colour is Blue.
- Blond. - Covers one eye. - Like to hang around with an orange-haired girl. - Comes from a ‘royal’ family. - Ran away from family at a young age. - Said family wants to get him married against his will. - The marriage is solely for political means. - Would rather marry orange-haired girl. (JK maybe, maybe not..I’m hoping he does lol!) - Is the 'third’ son in his family, and part of minter-trio. - Has fire powers. (Diable Jambe) - Lead by a member of the Monkey D. family. (Luffy). - Went back to family just for the sake of protecting nakama! (Nami, Chopper and Brook) Sabo: - Mostly seen wearing formal clothing, i.e. dress shirts, coats, gloves, hat etc. - No official colour, but is always seen wearing blue. - Blond. - Scar covering one eye. - Likes to hang around with an orange-haired girl. - Comes from a 'Noble’ family. - Ran away from family at a young age. - Said Family wanted to get him married against his will. - The marriage was solely for political means. - Would will rather marry orange-haired girl. (JK again, but we all know its gonna happen! ) - Is part of the ASL 'trio’. - Has fire powers. (Mera Mera no mi) - Lead by a member of the Monkey D family. (Dragon) - Went back to family just for the sake of protecting nakama! (Ace and Luffy)


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While this doesn't DIRECTLY deal with the family itself, but rather the status- I felt that with the release of Manga Chapter 837, this was an interesting comparison to add to the post. xD Thanks for the incentive to tack on more information Chap. 837! (The reason why this was added to the thread is self-explanatory from the dialogue and reaction from Luffy respectively)
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onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Sabo

Sabo is similar to Sanji as…
Both were born into royal families and hated their royal status.
Both escaped their life of royalty and ended up having a preferred life (A revolutionary for Sabo, a cook for the Baratie and the Straw Hat Pirates for Sanji).
Both their fathers saw them as disappointments.
Both were forced to marry a woman of their parents choosing.
Both hated their siblings.
Both returned back to their royal status to prevent their loved ones from getting killed and were threatened by their fathers if they did not cooperate (Luffy and Ace for Sabo, Zeff for Sanji).
Both had something destroyed by their fathers when they were young (The drawing Sabo had made for his father, the food Sanji prepared for a mouse).
Both had pirates involved in their return to their royal status (The Bluejam Pirates for Sabo, the Big Mom Pirates for Sanji).
Both were locked up by their fathers for showing disgrace.


and there is a comparison between judge and bluejam
both of them were promised something by a powerful ruler bluejam a king promising becoming noble judge promising an alliance with a yonko and for the yonko is a queen but turns out the ruler they had their hopes in were pulling one over on them and never planned on keeping their word/planning to kill them and take what they want/ let them die doing his dirty work ( bluejam)

Plus, their straight ships with Nami and Koala had contrasting parallels to each other:
  • While Nami was forced to join Arlong’s crew against her will, Koala only traveled with the Sun Pirates because they were asked to take her.
  • While both were forced to wear their crew’s mark, Koala’s “mark of the sun” was put on to replace another mark. Nami’s Arlong tattoo was removed and replaced with a tattoo of her own design.
  • When Koala joined the Sun Pirates, she was finally allowed to cry, whereas with Nami, after she was forced to join Arlong she refused to cry.
  • Koala was never forced to do any work as she was freed from slavery. Nami was forced to draw maps and act as a slave to Arlong.
  • Koala’s time in the crew was only meant to be temporary while Arlong intended to keep Nami in the crew forever.
  • In Koala’s case, her hometown exchanged her freedom with the Marines for the lives of the fishmen. In the case of Nami’s hometown, they fought against the fishmen for their freedom after the Marines betrayed them.
  • Each girl ended up with a permanent mark replacing a former mark of enslavement as a result of affiliation with fishmen.
Source: onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Koala
Nami vs Koala! Nami - Has orange hair. - Has a past involving fishmen. - Fishmen were mean to her. - Was enslaved (kind of) by fishmen.
- Has a tattoo covering up her mark of slavery. - The mark was the Jolly Roger of Fishmen. - Calls aforementioned nakama: “Sanji-kun”. - Disciplines Sanji with her fist. Koala - Has orange hair. - Has a past involving fishmen. - Fishmen were kind to her. - Was freed from slavery by fishmen. - Has a tattoo covering up her mark of slavery. - The cover up was a Jolly Roger of fishmen. - Calls aforementioned colleague: “Sabo-kun” - Disciplines Sabo by pinching his face. (kinda similar, maybe she also punches him..!)

sanji an sabo both share memory loss
Sabo lost his memories at the end of the flashback and sanji lost his memory of the kiss at the end of wci which may imply Sanji gets his memory back due to something painful with pudding.
( if the sabo vs akainu theory is correct this can point to Sanji vs aokiji in parallel term.

or 2. you can compare imu to energy like Mr morj did which may say Sanji gets to destroy Imus device and have a confrontation with him paralleling his moment against eneru


plus you can compare sanji and shanks with shanks and sanji both having been raised by pirates when they were from royalty/celestial ragon family ha a twin brother/quadruplet

whose family goes against his beliefs and went back at some point
 
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I don't really think there's any theories to make wrt these comparisons. While Sanji and Luffy do share things, I think we could simply just say, Luffy doesn't really have any serious emotional issues with his childhood like Sanji does, especially after Sabo was revealed to still be alive. And frankly, I think the similarities between Sanji and Sabo are just because Oda likes that trope about royalty. I guess you could say, both Sanji and Sabos family keep their ambitions, not being satisfied with their current positions. Judge isn't happy ruling Germa, which isn't even really like, a real kingdom, and tried allying with Big Mom. But it ended poorly for him and now he isn't part of the WG anymore. Sabo's brother showed interest in becoming a celestial dragon and asked Garp about it. So I assume EOS, Sanji and Sabos families will try getting on good terms with them again, maybe with Sanji ultimately forgiving his family while Sabo doesn't?
 
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Sanji also have parallels with Ace too so if Sabo dies Sanji may inherit Mera mera nomi but i would still like it more if he gets Byakko zoan. Ironically Sanji is the only Strawhat that Blackbeard can't cheat against, though same can be said for Zoro too but i am waiting for Shiryuu to kill Mihawk and take the throne.
 
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Sanjis background foils Luffys pretty well but this feels a bit much.

If that’s enough to hazard a theory imo i think you could theorize that Sanjis a descendant of the moon people since the only ones specified in the mural were those of the half moon (The D) dreamed and those of the moon (not fully confirmed who that is) dreamed?

Beyond that not much to go off of
 
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Sanjis background foils Luffys pretty well but this feels a bit much.

If that’s enough to hazard a theory imo i think you could theorize that Sanjis a descendant of the moon people since the only ones specified in the mural were those of the half moon (The D) dreamed and those of the moon (not fully confirmed who that is) dreamed?

Beyond that not much to go off of
well there is a theory that sanji is a descendent of joyboy by blood to contrast with luffy inheriting his will
and a theory that sanji is related to the celestial dragons ( like imu nerona ) to contrast luffy being from a d family
 
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