What countries have you been to?

They don't get as many indians in Germany, that's more of a thing in UK i guess(because of colonial heritage)
UK don't get much indians either.

Most of indian Immigration is either USA or Canada.(Who went through official means, no clue how many just dropped there illegally) Europe is majorly dominated by Middle east immigration due to their " Refugee " acceptance rate. Specifically UK.
 
UK don't get much indians either.

Most of indian Immigration is either USA or Canada.(Who went through official means, no clue how many just dropped there illegally) Europe is majorly dominated by Middle east immigration due to their " Refugee " acceptance rate. Specifically UK.
Oh i assumed you're talking about UK because the conversation was about Europe.
 
Really depends where the immigrant is from. But @Master OF Haki you might want to swim that Ukrainian refugee support wave before it's died down. The very welcoming culture of the first 2 years of war has long been over.
I'm perfectly aware of that, I don't need any help, I just need an opportunity to work, it's just that I can't do it immediately, there's a whole legal process to it that takes time. And you have to somehow survive before you get your license to work, there are two countries in which I could do that immediately, but I can't visit them, otherwise they'll never allow me to come back and visit my family.
There's levels to this. Having a moral compass is one thing but at some point it becomes a matter of survival.
I hate to agree with this clown but
I'd never harm anyone for money, the things you would need to do to survive here are at unfathomably despicable level. I don't want to go into details, but I think your imagination can fill the gaps.
There is a big difference between temporarily doing what is necessary to survive and building personal wealth on the backs of the innocent.
There's nothing you can do to survive that doesn't cross the line of unforgivable crimes. I've talked to some people from EU, and the level of information blockade there is absolute, unseen in our lifetime anywhere else, they thought I was crazy, that I was talking about aliens taking over the world or something like that, they couldn't believe me even when I showed them some of the documented stuff. Plus the unwillingness to care or pay attention, this stuff is dark, and most people would rather not damage their psyche with these things, it's no good to your mental health you know.
Always remember: ''laws'' are made by other people with bigger guns than us. Who are these people to us, why do we value their opinions when they don't even value our survival?
Because they will kill you of you don't listen to them, and you can't do anything about it.
Legality and morality are 2 very different things
That's true.
 
I'm perfectly aware of that, I don't need any help, I just need an opportunity to work, it's just that I can't do it immediately, there's a whole legal process to it that takes time. And you have to somehow survive before you get your license to work, there are two countries in which I could do that immediately, but I can't visit them, otherwise they'll never allow me to come back and visit my family.

I'd never harm anyone for money, the things you would need to do to survive here are at unfathomably despicable level. I don't want to go into details, but I think your imagination can fill the gaps.

There's nothing you can do to survive that doesn't cross the line of unforgivable crimes. I've talked to some people from EU, and the level of information blockade there is absolute, unseen in our lifetime anywhere else, they thought I was crazy, that I was talking about aliens taking over the world or something like that, they couldn't believe me even when I showed them some of the documented stuff. Plus the unwillingness to care or pay attention, this stuff is dark, and most people would rather not damage their psyche with these things, it's no good to your mental health you know.

Because they will kill you of you don't listen to them, and you can't do anything about it.

That's true.
So the govt will kill you if you leave and kill you if you don't leave?
The criminals kill you if you leave and kill you if you don't leave?
Then aren't you free to do whatever you choose because you might be killed either way?

But yes I believed you that there are restrictions on information. Before the war began the German public broadcasters were well aware of this, there uses to be reports and documentaries about corruption and the underworld in Ukraine, I watched them on tv. Idk if they took those down. In the Syrian war the image of the Kurdish fighters was initially sanitized because they fought on the West's side, only later on more nuanced reports came out.

The first thing that dies in war is the truth.
 
So the govt will kill you if you leave and kill you if you don't leave?
The criminals kill you if you leave and kill you if you don't leave?
Then aren't you free to do whatever you choose because you might be killed either way?
There are nuances to this that I can't discuss openly, maybe in the dms.
Then aren't you free to do whatever you choose because you might be killed either way?
No.
 
they thought I was crazy, that I was talking about aliens taking over the world or something like that, they couldn't believe me even when I showed them some of the documented stuff. Plus the unwillingness to care or pay attention, this stuff is dark, and most people would rather not damage their psyche with these things, it's no good to your mental health you know.
It took me a while to gradually become aware of the fact that,like, half or more of the world is like this. Horror, ethnic cleansings, human trafficking, slavery, murder, baby factories etc.

But I had these realizations relatively early in life because I took historical times as a reference and understood humankind hasn't changed.

Most people in the west never did or never want to realize these truths. They live in a bubble where everything is fluffy and lovely and the worst things that may happen to humans is failing class, their partner cheating or their pet dying.

It must feel nice to be in this state of perpetual infancy. Life is pain and those who refuse to see this may avert their eyes when confronted with reality and when it finally affects themselves, they are completely unprepared.
 
It took me a while to gradually become aware of the fact that,like, half or more of the world is like this. Horror, ethnic cleansings, human trafficking, slavery, murder, baby factories etc.
Ahahaha only if certain wealthy countries don't overthrow governments and arm groups with questionable ideologies. Otherwise, if left alone, they are pretty normal countries.
 
Ahahaha only if certain wealthy countries don't overthrow governments and arm groups with questionable ideologies. Otherwise, if left alone, they are pretty normal countries.
Yea kinda yes but also kinda no.
If it's not Murica doing that it would be another overgrown empire. There are no saints in this.
Humans will, sooner or later, show their ugly, barbaric side. Humans are worse than animals.
 
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