Speculations What did Crocodile and Mihawk do?

#21
Law’s fruit is good but not that impressive. The gura can cause mass destruction to continents in record time. With Luffy we know they’re trying to hide his identity so that makes sense somewhat, especially since there’s no way the government believes chumps like Kidd and Law deserve a 3bil bounty
Idk remember that the marines were willing to pay 5 billion berry for it. It also seems to have some connection with the national treasure in mary geoise and on top of that is known as the ultimate devil fruit

Based on them sharing equal credit for taking down the 2 yonko it makes sense. Tho obviously they shouldn't have done it that way. The did the same thing in dressrosa
 
#22
Idk remember that the marines were willing to pay 5 billion berry for it. It also seems to have some connection with the national treasure in mary geoise and on top of that is known as the ultimate devil fruit

Based on them sharing equal credit for taking down the 2 yonko it makes sense. Tho obviously they shouldn't have done it that way. The did the same thing in dressrosa
I forgot the 5bil part, this is just Oda being inconsistent, for if the marines truly valued the fruit they’d have killed Law when he applied as a warlord lol
They did split the bounties but Cp0 know Luffy had a 1v1 with Kaido
 
#23
Unfortunately we may never know. Just like we never knew how at Sabaody there were 9 other pirates that had reached the above 100million bounties.

But it's fun to wonder. I'll throw some guesses, if it's a pirate issue, going by bounties and strength, I'd say Crocodile may have clashed with Marco or Blackbeard himself. Those are the two pirates who have or could have a bounty that are close to his. If it's a WG issue, he may have messed with another country like he did with Alabasta but this would be a country who has strong warriors.

Crocodile really has an "alien bounty". He's not in the classical yonkou commanders range, neither he is high enough to be a yonkou. It makes it hard to know what he exactly could have done. I hope we'll find out about more pirates and vice-admirals in this range of bounty in the future. There is a void to fill Oda !
 
#24
Them being part of cross guild probably helps a bit
Not a bit, a lot.
They are a direct threat to Navy.
Unlike the common sense that other pirates have (run away from Navy when they see them, Prime WB for example), they directly declared war on them by putting bounties as well.
+numbers pun
+being part of Buggy's "crew"
+Mihawk probably already had a high frozen bounty before joining Warlors since he was the "Marine Chaser", which is essentially the same as what Cross Guild does now.
And they should have dealt great damage to SSG I guess(?)

P.S: and ofc Oda is trying to keep Mihawk's hype, which is not possible at this point and not with only this for sure :milaugh:
 
#25

What did crocodile and mihawk actually do to get their bounties? Them being part of cross guild probably helps a bit but other than that.

Crocodile with a bounty of 1.965 billion having a higher bounty than post wano zoro, king, marco, and even wci luffy
Him even having a bounty comparable to current blackbeard. With teach having even better logia abilities, intelligence, and leadership prior to even becoming a yonko or eating the gura fruit
So what do you think he did to be such a high threat to the wg?

Mihawk with a bounty of 3.59 billion having a higher bounty than luffy, kid, law, buggy, and blackbeard
We know strength without the feats behind it doesn't mean anything really when it comes to bounty do to blackbeard arguably being just as strong if not stronger than mihawk himself. At worse stronger than luffy, law, kid, and buggy
So what do you think he did to be such a high threat to the wg?
It literally says it you coper malder seether if you stop crying for once

3.59 is a bounty worthy for man stronger than Shanks and strongest swordsman in the world.

It is literally for his strenght because he is far stronger than Yonko and admirals and possibly even stronger than Roger.

I think Roger will be worth 3.2 billion for his strength
 
#30
I think their threat is more to the Marines than the WG
Imagine if you're a fodder level Marines and suddenly this cross guild have the audacity to put like let's say 50m bounty on your head
These fodder Marines will not only be hunted by the civilians or outlaws like pirates or assassins alike
There's a chance that their friends among fodders or even the higher-ups will betray them in secrets to get easy money, it's gonna be chaos for the Marines

which is why imo, the bounty boost were given to them
although in Mihawk's case I think his previous bounty was already huge to begin with
 
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Herrera95

#32
when it comes to bounty do to blackbeard arguably being just as strong if not stronger than mihawk himself
Cap.

Blackbeard was Ace level which is very weak. Even Impel Down Luffy was hurting Teach the same way Ace was. So Teach >= Ace >= Luffy. All that pre-timeskip.

Post-timeskip we only know that Teach has WB's DF and beated WB's pirates remainers but we don't know how. So most likely scenario would be Teach >= Marco which isn't enough to make him top tier.

While Mihawk > Shanks is an absolute truth. They were portrayed as equals back then when they used to fight against each other but Mihawk is portrayed stronger after Shanks lost his arm. And Shanks is a well known top tier.
 
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Herrera95

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Mihawk's bounty is pretty easy to defend. He is WSS. Period. He doesn't need anything else.

Crocodile is the trick one.

Luffy defeated him with frozen bounty of 80mi and got a new bounty of 100mi.

We learned from Yonko defeat that in a team work the responsibles get the amount above of the defeated bounty(was I clear?). So Luffy, Kid and Law are 3bi bounty each because 9bi is bigger than Kaido + Big Mom bounties together.

Using the same principle we also learn that 1bi is bigger than Doflamingo's true bounty(since 340mi was a frozen one) since Law and Luffy got 500mi bounty each after defeated Doflamingo.

With Crocodile it is straigth forward 1v1. So all we know is that Crocodile true bounty is less than 100mi. So we can't say that WG used to think of Crocodile as that big of a threat back then.

After Marineford Crocodile showed incredible feats, equally clashing with Doflamingo, Mihawk and slowing down Akainu while also saving Ace for a brief moment. But not something that would make his bounty increase.

So in reallity all we know that have boosted Crocodile's bounty is the creation of Cross Guild. We don't know anything else that he did after Marineford besides that.

Or do we? We know that Crocodile destroyed ships to help Buggy. We expected those ships to have SSG inside them. If that is true than Crocodile and Daz Bones alone destroyed SSG could result in a huge boost in his bounty since SSG were made to dismade Shichibukai system.

Basically WG is saying that SSG are a bigger threat than YC1's(if they were at pirates sides for example). And Crocodile is even above that.
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Hmm ok

Teach did scar an on guard shanks at least so that's at least something
Who said he was on guard? And that was at past. Even Shanks and Buggy had the same level at one day.
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Blackbeards bounty is low because they went "ayo didn't he job to Magellan?"
Magellan is Admiral Level. Respect my man.
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Mihawks the world strongest swordsman who went around hunting marines to prove his strength

Crocodile has become a rich underworld broker and likely has hunted marines and who knows how powerful he’s become since the timeskip
Mihawk hunted marines before being a Shichibukai. I really doubt they would let a Shichibukai hunt marines without removing his title.

It is said at manga that Crocodile became a rich underworld broker?

Even though I don't see any of those information making Crocodile new Yonko bounty(Teach). Maybe because we lack of other people bounty like other Shichibukais, Dragon etc. I can only measure Crocodile with Commanders like Katakuri, King, Marco but I know that captains bounty are higher than what should be by his individual threat.
 
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#36
Who said he was on guard? And that was at past. Even Shanks and Buggy had the same level at one day.
He says he wasn't being careless so he likley was caught off guard not paying attention
Yeah last time shanks fought teach was 12+ years ago
Last time he fought mihawk was 12+ years ago
I dont think buggy and shanks were ever comparable tbh but if they were that was also 12+ years ago
 
#37
after they announce the bounties
they sort of give the reason they gave them those numbers in the same chapter ......
its listed on the panel you posted


if you are expecting consistent logic to it you wont find one
bb's bounty is low because oda plans to give him a boost soon for doing something else. mihawk and croc have all but likely got their eos bounties.
How much do you think BB’s next bounty will exceed Mihawk’s one?
 
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Herrera95

#38
He says he wasn't being careless so he likley was caught off guard not paying attention
Yeah last time shanks fought teach was 12+ years ago
Last time he fought mihawk was 12+ years ago
I dont think buggy and shanks were ever comparable tbh but if they were that was also 12+ years ago
I'm not understanding your idea of Teach scarring Shanks. Was Shanks on guard?

Yeah, Mihawk and Shanks last clash was like 12+ years ago before Shanks losing his arm which Mihawk addressed as him getting weaker by that.

I'm comparing Shanks and Buggy kid versions. The ones from Roger's ship.
 
#39
I'm not understanding your idea of Teach scarring Shanks. Was Shanks on guard?

Yeah, Mihawk and Shanks last clash was like 12+ years ago before Shanks losing his arm which Mihawk addressed as him getting weaker by that.

I'm comparing Shanks and Buggy kid versions. The ones from Roger's ship.
He wasn't caught off guard so i assume so tbh
Teach scarring shanks is as valid a feat as mihawk fighting him imo
 
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